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Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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at one point, Somalis and Oromos used to be One. After many years of population sky rocketing and Scarcity of reasouces, They splitted. Those who Migrated towards the west ( what is Now ethiopia ) started having different dialect after many many years. Those that remained, in the east ( what is now somalia) also started having their own dialect. to proof my point, most of the Old somali towns' names are Oromo.

gaalkacyo, hargaysa, burco, liboye, luuq, gedo, mudug, hobyo, are all oromo names with no meaning to somali language.

it is reasonable to conclude that, Somalis and are oromo were the same people but splited due to economic scarcity. They share 60% similar culture, 60% language and 100% similar physical appearance.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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They are great people and Insallah we will help each other aganist our common enemy, Amharas and Tigrays.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Actually hargeysa means meeshi haraga (hides) la geyn jiray for trade
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Just because you do not understand the names of those places, does not make it Oromo or non Somali. You barely speak modern Somali as apposed old school Somali and you have the audacity to say otherwise. lmao.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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hanad_mn wrote:at one point, Somalis and Oromos used to be One. After many years of population sky rocketing and Scarcity of reasouces, They splitted. Those who Migrated towards the west ( what is Now ethiopia ) started having different dialect after many many years. Those that remained, in the east ( what is now somalia) also started having their own dialect. to proof my point, most of the Old somali towns' names are Oromo.

hargaysa, liboye

These are the only two that seem to have somewhat meanings in Afaan Oromo, but they aren't Oromo cities.
We have no use in claiming land that we don't live in, if you'd like us to come populate these towns/cities sure why not, but that wouldn't make us rightful owners of these places. We don't look for grabbing every inch of the horn to be under Oromo rule, only what is rightfully ours which is biyya Oromoo in Ethiopia.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Do you have any proof.
You could say Somalis were Ethiopians who converted to Islam during the Sahaba migration and than started moving East and South, what was called the Great Somali Expansion, taking out indigenous people who use to populate most of Somalia, some of these were Boran,Warday, Bantu and Tumaal tribes. some of those were considered to be Oromo such as the Warday and Borana, and that may be what you talking about. but most Somali cities names are very old and nobody knows there meaning unless someone does some research.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Gedo means camels in Somali. Like Advo said learn Somali first.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Not only Oromos, but the whole of "cushitic" clans were one tribe some time ago. Then again, all of humanity came from one source. So?
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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There are 3 type of Oromos:

#1 Original Oromos (Borana-Arsi and other East Oromos)
#2 Oromized Agews (Wellega, parts of Shewa and other Northwest Oromos)
#3 Oromized Nilotics/Omotics (Southwest Ethiopia)

Somalis are only related to group #1
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Most of the names of our cities mean one thing or another in other languages, for example mogadishu is an actual persian name. I know quite a few, however that doesn't justify that we hail from another nationality.
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Honestly I do not think Somalis and Oromos are related;
I being fortunate enough to know both people, I can say that the psychological make up of these two peoples is way too different.
Their traditional law way too different.
In my humble opinion any language or other ressemblance is due too long neighbourhood and
the long border we share(almost 1000 kilimeter).

As for oromo sounding place names that is a fact. Some part of current day somalia or somali inhabited areas in the horn were inhabited by oromo speakers for long time. Places like GarbaHarre, MataArbaa etc..were oromo inhabited areas.

Now a word on the much celebrated, the uncomparable and the uncompared jewel of south, I mean Gedo

When Oromos move to new areas they name it after their ancestral home names.
Thats why all over north Borana lands, specially in Tulama (from south Adaamaa , addis abeba upto nile), you see a lot of places called Gedo!
I think there is even a secondary school named Gedo in Salaale, (up northern Borana). I believe Gedo used to be part Borana lands!

Mckus cut the crap, Somalis who are loaded with Boni/tuni/bantu can not be related to the most prestigious and purest Waaq children!

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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Most Oromos are not real Oromo.

Only those in the East like Borana and Arsi are originally Oromo. All others are fake Oromo (mostly Agew-Amhara or Nilotic-Omotic tribes who became Oromo). Somalis are not related to the fake Oromos (they form a large portion of the modern-day Oromo).
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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And most Somalis are descendants of unknown flying objects descending randomly on trees;
Preferably trees around which there are some girls ! Speaking of shukansi plan :D

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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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related like oranges and apples.i can tell a oromo immideately from a somali very different. oromos look like amhara,tigray BUT NOT somali
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Re: Somalis and Oromos Used to be One

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Meru, Oromos in Kenya are Boranas and I wonder how they look to u like amhara and tigray :?

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