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Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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By that i mean. If Somalia chooses Sharia law. Should cutting hands off and beheadings be allowed? let me remind you i mean all of Somalia including Puntland and Somaliland.

What is your opinon?

If you do not agree, then what is your suggestion or argument.

If you agree, then motivate your answer.

Lets start a meaningful discussion :up: :D
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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It's already being practiced.....
but whenever someone states that sharia law is going to be implemented anywhere people run around like headless chickens.
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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I can't see any muslim rejecting parts of the Sharia. We all believe in it. No point discussing this really...
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Samatr wrote:It's already being practiced.....
but whenever someone states that sharia law is going to be implemented anywhere people run around like headless chickens.
Saxiib can you clarify your answer a little bit more? :)
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Sharia law Somali style or Islamic style?

Ppl just toss the word Sharia law around as if it's some kind of a tool to be used either to benefit some or subjugate others. Sharia law means more than just cutting hands and feet and stoning someone for allegedly fornicating. Before you implement sharia, you need to prepare the whole society, it's putting over 5 million in rehab, reprograme them, then start with the benefits of sharia law rather than the punishment, establish beytul maal so no one goes hungry and steals, bring ppl who have knowledge and are well versed in Islamic fiqh/jurisprudence, not those who cut hands/feet for stealing a piece of bread for survival
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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In an idealistic world all muslim states would use sharia however this won't happen anytime soon me thinks. We have become so corrupted that we love man-made law over Allah's law, the most ignorant people now see themselves as intellects and are coming up with their own interpretations of diinta .e.g watering it down. Add illegitimate, powerless, clown like state "leaders" and the answer is no.
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Mureedi wrote:Sharia law Somali style or Islamic style?

Ppl just toss the word Sharia law around as if it's some kind of a tool to be used either to benefit some or subjugate others. Sharia law means more than just cutting hands and feet and stoning someone for allegedly fornicating. Before you implement sharia, you need to prepare the whole society, it's putting over 5 million in rehab, reprograme them, then start with the benefits of sharia law rather than the punishment, establish beytul maal so no one goes hungry and steals, bring ppl who have knowledge and are well versed in Islamic fiqh/jurisprudence, not those who cut hands/feet for stealing a piece of bread for survival
I mean Islamic style similar to Saudi arabia and Al shabab laws. Do you belive it can be implemented anytime soon? Can we ban Nationalism,greed,somali customs that are deemed unislamic or sufii. Can we get rid of and kill all of the sufiis in Somalia, shall we destroy tombs. Shall we change flag, to a more islamic one.
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Colonel wrote:In an idealistic world all muslim states would use sharia however this won't happen anytime soon me thinks. We have become so corrupted that we love man-made law over Allah's law, the most ignorant people now see themselves as intellects and are coming up with their own interpretations of diinta .e.g watering it down. Add illegitimate, powerless, clown like state "leaders" and the answer is no.
So if you believe Sharia is not possible to implement in Somalia anytime soon, what is more fitting? Dictatorship,democracy , socialism, communism etc.?
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Coeus wrote:
Mureedi wrote:Sharia law Somali style or Islamic style?

Ppl just toss the word Sharia law around as if it's some kind of a tool to be used either to benefit some or subjugate others. Sharia law means more than just cutting hands and feet and stoning someone for allegedly fornicating. Before you implement sharia, you need to prepare the whole society, it's putting over 5 million in rehab, reprograme them, then start with the benefits of sharia law rather than the punishment, establish beytul maal so no one goes hungry and steals, bring ppl who have knowledge and are well versed in Islamic fiqh/jurisprudence, not those who cut hands/feet for stealing a piece of bread for survival
I mean Islamic style similar to Saudi arabia and Al shabab laws. Do you belive it can be implemented anytime soon? Can we ban Nationalism,greed,somali customs that are deemed unislamic or sufii. Can we get rid of and kill all of the sufiis in Somalia, shall we destroy tombs. Shall we change flag, to a more islamic one.

Saudi Arabia doesn't fully implement sharia, but how can you put Saudi and Al-Shabab in the same category? :shock:
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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[quote="Coeus"]
I mean Islamic style similar to Saudi arabia and Al shabab laws. Do you belive it can be implemented anytime soon? Can we ban Nationalism,greed,somali customs that are deemed unislamic or sufii. Can we get rid of and kill all of the sufiis in Somalia, shall we destroy tombs. Shall we change flag, to a more islamic one.[/quote]


Who said Saudi Arabia practices sharia law? And Alshabaab :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: sambusigii aaba la isku heystaa saxibow.

And why would you wanna kill Sufis? According to your dodgy questions, you sound like a slippery character and I don't think you are being honest in your endeavor.

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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Coeus, the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia or in the entire Somali Peninsula. The question isn't really, can the Shariah Law be implemented in Somalia, but rather, it's "Who can implement the Shariah Law in Somalia?". As you know, majority, if not all of Somalis have committed different sorts of crimes, thru the name of Islam, thru the name of Tribalism, thru the name of whatever you can think of.

How could the man who raped, stole, killed innocents be able to speak in the name of God and implement the Shariah Law? How could a clan that has committed such a heinous crimes, stand up in public and support the implementation of the Shariah Law, when their elders have taken part of genocide, rape, and complete destruction of society?

The Shariah Law can only be implemented by men who have not committed crimes, and apparently, I don't see any Somali, whether clan-leader, Religious Scholar, Religious Leader, Civilian and so forth who hasn't committed crimes or sins. As for crimes or sins, what I mean is that, for instance, those in the Diaspora have willingly take part of flaming up any wrongdoing their clan has done to another. They send money to support whomever they're supporting in committing crimes against others. They are mentally and emotionally, and for the most parts physically taking part of breaking the Rules and Regulations of ALLAH, the rules and regulations of Humanity.

So, I conclude that the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia, until the Somali people go thru cleansing. They have to bring justice to every single Somali, young or old who has committed crimes against ALLAH, against Humanity and against his fellow Muslim brothers and sisters.
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Knight of Wisdom wrote:Coeus, the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia or in the entire Somali Peninsula. The question isn't really, can the Shariah Law be implemented in Somalia, but rather, it's "Who can implement the Shariah Law in Somalia?". As you know, majority, if not all of Somalis have committed different sorts of crimes, thru the name of Islam, thru the name of Tribalism, thru the name of whatever you can think of.

How could the man who raped, stole, killed innocents be able to speak in the name of God and implement the Shariah Law? How could a clan that has committed such a heinous crimes, stand up in public and support the implementation of the Shariah Law, when their elders have taken part of genocide, rape, and complete destruction of society?

The Shariah Law can only be implemented by men who have not committed crimes, and apparently, I don't see any Somali, whether clan-leader, Religious Scholar, Religious Leader, Civilian and so forth who hasn't committed crimes or sins. As for crimes or sins, what I mean is that, for instance, those in the Diaspora have willingly take part of flaming up any wrongdoing their clan has done to another. They send money to support whomever they're supporting in committing crimes against others. They are mentally and emotionally, and for the most parts physically taking part of breaking the Rules and Regulations of ALLAH, the rules and regulations of Humanity.

So, I conclude that the Shariah Law cannot be implemented in Somalia, until the Somali people go thru cleansing. They have to bring justice to every single Somali, young or old who has committed crimes against ALLAH, against Humanity and against his fellow Muslim brothers and sisters.
Great argument. So what do you suggest?
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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Coeus wrote:
Samatr wrote:It's already being practiced.....
but whenever someone states that sharia law is going to be implemented anywhere people run around like headless chickens.
Saxiib can you clarify your answer a little bit more? :)

Ma waxaad ka mid tahay dadka rumaysan inay soomaalidu yihiin jaahiliin diintu dhawaan soo gaadhay?
I don't know about you but the last time I checked Somalia was like 99% Sunni Muslim and the fact that some Somalis are talking about implementing sharia law in Somalia today is an insult, what kind of f-king law do you think a country that's 99% Sunni Muslim practices.
either you believe Somalis are retarded or Somalis are new converts. :lol:
btw what do you have against Sufis, Sufis are not the ones causing problems in Somalia today; Sufis have done far less damage to Somalis than the bearded thugs you support.
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Saudi Arabia doesn't fully implement sharia, but how can you put Saudi and Al-Shabab in the same category? :shock:
Executive since your a supporter of Sharia law, does beheading and cutting of arms include in your view? Im just asking.
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Re: Should sharia law be fully implemented in Somalia?

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I suggest that, we, the Somali people go thru an "Age of Enlightenment" and age where, we set aside emotional attachments to our loved ones who have committed crimes against Humanity. We have to go thru Physical Purification, before we can go thru Spiritual Purification. That's the only way we can go towards the direction of implementing the Shariah Law.


A Thief cuts off the hands of an 18 year old accused of stealing, without bring forth 4 witnesses. :down: First, the Thief is fulfilling the judgment, which is an oxymoron. :lol: Secondly, there is no substantial evidence, such as bringing the 4 witnesses we were told to do so by ALLAH in the Nobel Quran.

What kind of Islam is that, let alone Shariah Law? :?
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