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NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:18 am
by Meru
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Treasury+r ... index.html
The government has set aside more than Sh400 million to conduct a recount of the population in eight districts where 2009 census results were cancelled last year.

Planning minister Wycliffe Opranya said the process had been delayed due to lack of funding. “It has nothing to do with our willingness, but rather our financial ability to do it,” he said.

The minister said the Treasury had allocated the money in this year’s budget to conduct the exercise again. And this week, officials from his ministry met to plan for the recount, but a new date has not yet been set.

Results for the Kenyan Somali and Turkana populations were cancelled because of what Mr Oparanya termed inconsistencies in expected numbers when he announced the results last August.

The affected districts are Lagdera, Wajir East, Mandera Central, Mandera East and Mandera West, all of which are in North Eastern Province, which borders Somalia.

Other affected districts re Turkana Central, Turkana North and Turkana South that border the Kakuma refugee camp.

Cancelling the results last year, Mr Oparanya said the inconsistencies were discovered after an analysis was carried out after the census in August 2009.



“The rate of increase is higher than the population dynamics. If you look at birth and death rates, they cannot support those figures. Age and sex profiles also deviate from the norm,” said the minister while releasing the results last year.

He said the analysis revealed that men outnumbered women by three to one. “In those areas, we were wondering how men above 35 stay without women. In other cases, there is a balance of 50-50 or women are slightly higher.”

Not consistent

In addition, he said, the household size was also not consistent with the population size. “If there is a population growth, you expect households to increase. The per capita per house is very high and the number of households very few,” Mr Oparanya said.

The cancelled results indicated that Lagdera has 245,123 people, Wajir East 224,418, Mandera Central 417,294, Mandera East 288, 687 and Mandera West 319,772. Turkana Central had 254,606, Turkana North 374,414 and Turkana South 226,379.

Of major concern were the “abnormally” high figures recorded from the Somali community.

This has caused security fears at a time when talk of al Shabaab militia infiltrating the country is rife. In total, the results indicated that the population of Kenyan ethnic Somalis had more than doubled over the past decade to 2,385,572 from the less than 800,000 recorded in the 1999 count. This made the Somali community the sixth largest in the country.

Some Sh8.4 billion was spent to conduct the last census, with much of that money being payments to the census staff.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:13 pm
by Meru
seems that the population of somalis in kenya is just 1million! so sad BV,Fatimazahra,The-patriot,quark, etc

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:31 pm
by DropkickMurphy
They are going to spend 400 million Kenyan shillings just to say that the Somali population in NFD is half what it really is so they won't get fair presentation. :down: The Somali community in NFD should reject the recount.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:19 pm
by IRONm@N
They don't want to hear the truth. the Somali population is NEP is about 5 million.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:29 pm
by Beenaale_No1
How does anyone know for sure what the figure is?

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:30 pm
by Beenaale_No1
Meru wrote:seems that the population of somalis in kenya is just 1million! so sad BV,Fatimazahra,The-patriot,quark, etc
If thats the case, how can an ethnic group of 1 million [out of 40 million] have so much financial muscle in Kenya??

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:31 pm
by Advo
5 million people can do real damage to the whole country, if bantu kenya is not willing to recognize the supremacy of the Somalis, we should make the whole country unstable.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:36 pm
by Meru
somalis are a minority in kenya. they cant cause instability,we have crashed all instability before

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:01 pm
by Beenaale_No1
Meru wrote:somalis are a minority in kenya. they cant cause instability,we have crashed all instability before
If Somalis are such a small minority, why do Somalis in Kenya have so much financial muscle?

How can such a tiny ethnic group have such financial power in the Kenyan economy?

Serious question. Im not trolling.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:22 pm
by IRONm@N
Meru wrote:somalis are a minority in kenya. they cant cause instability,we have crashed all instability before
why do Somalis want to cause instability in Kenya, that is stupid, its our second country. aside from police abuse, lack of developement in NEP, Kenya have been very good for Somali ppl, the largest Somali refugee camp is in Kenya, and Kenyans welcomed us more than any other country, even more than Ethiopia and Yemen.

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:20 am
by fatimazahra
Meru wrote:seems that the population of somalis in kenya is just 1million! so sad BV,Fatimazahra,The-patriot,quark, etc
:som: wh0 live in eastleigh are more than 1M. what about south c, kamarok, feather, donholm etc. Dn even talk about NFD. you guys are feeling insecure in your own home :? i better talk to a kikuyu the real kenyan than the minority meru who are less 100,000 :roll:

Re: NEW MINI-CENSUS TO BE CONDUCTED IN NEP

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:26 am
by globetrotter2
1. This proves that Kenya still treat its citizens as aliens despite the talk of "change". The Wagalla, Malkare and Garissa massacres, the myriads of checkpoints, the constant lete kpande from somalis shows that Kenya views somalis from the NFD as foreigners in their own territory
2. It is an intellectual, emotional and political fallacy to praise Kenya for creating safe heavens for somalis. FYI, most somalis from somalia live in the NFD which is a somali territory
3. The so called census showed that somalis by far outnumbered several tribes that previously used the number game to get political clout


Instead of census Kenya needs to treat NFD somalis as her own. Remove the roadblocks, acknowledge previous wrongs and start all over.

I know some less than intelligent people will argue that somalis have achieved alot in the Kenyan government. This is not true. The reality of the matter is that Kenya views somalis as a threat and have still mechanisms of colonialism in place.