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Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:37 pm
by caburiye1
http://wardheernews.com/Articles_10/Jul ... bukar.html
This Memo explains what happened behind the Scenes that led to Somalia's Problems.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:11 pm
by caburiye1
I respect the writter because he is interviewing Family members of the Victims.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:12 pm
by caburiye1

The Family of Colonel Abdulkadir Dheel Abdulle were the worst victims. The memo describes him as a pharmacist who was not involved in any coup.
Some people believe it might be allah's anger that has fallen on Somalia when On 23kii January 1975, ten clerics (Ulema) These were killed.
1 - Sheekh Axmed Sh. Maxamed
2 - Sheekh Muuse Yuusuf
3 - Sheekh Axmed Iimaan
4 - Cali Xasan Warsame
5 - Xasan Ciise Iley
6 - Maxamed Siyaad Xirsi
7 - Cali Jaamac Xirsi
8 - Aadan Cali Xirsi
9 - Saleebaan Jaamac Maxamed
10- Yaasiin Cilmi Cawil
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:45 pm
by XimanJaale
xaski_cigaal wrote:I believe it was the evil eye. Particularly ethiopias.
I always had suspicous vibes towards Indians, perhaps they done a voodo to Somalia.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:45 pm
by Knight of Wisdom
Somalia's Problems started when after President Siyaad Barre almost destroyed Modern-Day Ethiopia. The Soviet Union and other Foreign powers realized how much of a Threat Somalia, led by Jalle Siyaad Barre was to the existence of Ethiopia, Kenya and other Countries, therefore, they created, funded financially and militarily what we know today as SSDF, SNM and towards the late 1980s, the USC and SPM.
You know there is something fishy going on, when you see Mengistu supporting SNM and SSDF against Jalle Siyaad Barre?
Had SNM, SSDF, USC and SPM were not created, Ethiopia wouldn't be in existence today. In April 1991, Mengistu fail from Power and his Derg Party vanquished. If Somalia was still intact, Jalle Siyaad Barre would've invaded Ethiopia again and forcefully take Western Somalia or at least would have it returned by Meles Zenawi.
Mind you, the Soviet Union, Mengistu's #1 Ally also collapsed during the same time.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:49 pm
by ZubeirAwal
caburiye1 wrote:
Some people believe it might be allah's anger that has fallen on Somalia when On 23kii January 1975, ten clerics (Ulema) These were killed.
i believe this is the reason why.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:51 pm
by Colonel
Knight of Wisdom wrote:Somalia's Problems started when after President Siyaad Barre almost destroyed Modern-Day Ethiopia. The Soviet Union and other Foreign powers realized how much of a Threat Somalia, led by Jalle Siyaad Barre was to the existence of Ethiopia, Kenya and other Countries, therefore, they created, funded financially and militarily what we know today as SSDF, SNM and towards the late 1980s, the USC and SPM.
You know there is something fishy going on, when you see Mengistu supporting SNM and SSDF against Jalle Siyaad Barre?
Had SNM, SSDF, USC and SPM were not created, Ethiopia wouldn't be in existence today. In April 1991, Mengistu fail from Power and his Derg Party vanquished. If Somalia was still intact, Jalle Siyaad Barre would've invaded Ethiopia again and forcefully take Western Somalia or at least would have it returned by Meles Zenawi.
Mind you, the Soviet Union, Mengistu's #1 Ally also collapsed during the same time.
The puppets & traitors will be destroyed inshallah.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:57 pm
by Coeus
Knight of Wisdom wrote:Somalia's Problems started when after President Siyaad Barre almost destroyed Modern-Day Ethiopia. The Soviet Union and other Foreign powers realized how much of a Threat Somalia, led by Jalle Siyaad Barre was to the existence of Ethiopia, Kenya and other Countries, therefore, they created, funded financially and militarily what we know today as SSDF, SNM and towards the late 1980s, the USC and SPM.
You know there is something fishy going on, when you see Mengistu supporting SNM and SSDF against Jalle Siyaad Barre?
Had SNM, SSDF, USC and SPM were not created, Ethiopia wouldn't be in existence today. In April 1991, Mengistu fail from Power and his Derg Party vanquished. If Somalia was still intact, Jalle Siyaad Barre would've invaded Ethiopia again and forcefully take Western Somalia or at least would have it returned by Meles Zenawi.
Mind you, the Soviet Union, Mengistu's #1 Ally also collapsed during the same time.
The problem in Somalia started way earlier any war against Ethiopia. Itrs started with many graduated Army generals among them Siad barre fighting for Power. It started when Caydiid got imprisoned 6 years and was losing his mind in jail. It started when Siad barre wanted to get rid of Kulmiye and other generals in the late 60´s. Waay back any war started it was a war about the president seat.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:08 pm
by ZubeirAwal
delsuional KOW, SNM was created 4 years after the ethio war, and if barre continued the soviet would've turned mogadishu into hiroshima.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:15 pm
by Knight of Wisdom
Coeus wrote:
The problem in Somalia started way earlier any war against Ethiopia. Itrs started with many graduated Army generals among them Siad barre fighting for Power. It started when Caydiid got imprisoned 6 years and was losing his mind in jail. It started when Siad barre wanted to get rid of Kulmiye and other generals in the late 60´s. Waay back any war started it was a war about the president seat.
First, President Siyaad Barre was NOT in power in the 1960s. He came into Power in October 21st 1969. He made Hussein Kulmiye Afrax the Vice-President. If he was a Daaroodist, he would've picked a Daarood as Vice-President and Daaroodize the entire Government, but he didn't.
Caydiid is ONE GUY. He was a thread to National Security, 6 years later, Jalle Siyaad forgave him and made him into a Ambassador of India, then another country, which I can't remember. All in All, you see what Caydiid did, when he was let loose.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:21 pm
by Coeus
Knight of Wisdom wrote:Coeus wrote:
The problem in Somalia started way earlier any war against Ethiopia. Itrs started with many graduated Army generals among them Siad barre fighting for Power. It started when Caydiid got imprisoned 6 years and was losing his mind in jail. It started when Siad barre wanted to get rid of Kulmiye and other generals in the late 60´s. Waay back any war started it was a war about the president seat.
First, President Siyaad Barre was NOT in power in the 1960s. He came into Power in October 21st 1969. He made Hussein Kulmiye Afrax the Vice-President. If he was a Daaroodist, he would've picked a Daarood as Vice-President and Daaroodize the entire Government, but he didn't.
Caydiid is ONE GUY. He was a thread to National Security, 6 years later, Jalle Siyaad forgave him and made him into a Ambassador of India, then another country, which I can't remember. All in All, you see what Caydiid did, when he was let loose.
Siad barre was behind the assasination of many fellow Nationalist senior military officials. Siad barre imprisoned Caidid for fear of him stopping Siad from being a life long dictator and then he locked him up for Six years and then when he was freed, he was sent abroad so he cant bother Siad. Abdullahi Yusuf was also going to be sent abroad but instead he refused and got jail time by Siad barre.
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:50 am
by globetrotter2
The problems in somalia were caused by one single reason;
Primitive tribalism
with the following symptoms and consequences:
corruption,
passivity
hunger for power
a mental disorder based on the state as being the provider
etc etc
All other explanations are symptoms not CAUSAL
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:33 am
by Meru
why dont you accept what caused somalia disintegration was just fate punishment by almighty God for invading peaceful nations. this is a lesson for you not to dare that again otherwiz somalia will cease to exist
Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:11 am
by eyes-only
I'd say it was the economy stupid!!
Plus our president was mentally handicapped

Re: Real Reason of What Started Somalia's Problems
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:22 am
by Meru
^^^you are damn right,thats me