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One Side-Effect of the Civil War (photos included)

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It effectively wiped out all ethnic minorities except Somalis and their Bantu brothers; the strongest of the pack. No more Arabs, Indians, Barawanis, Shanshi, or Bajunis ever again in the history of Somalia - 800 years of their history on Somalia's shores effectively wiped out by a few hundred armed militia from Galguduud - the biggest cultural extinction in modern history. :lol:

I was reminded of this when I was looking through an old topic with pics of Lamu on the Swahili Coast. From Mombasa to pretty much Xamar was inhabited for centuries by large populations of near-eastern cultural groups, below are pics of Lamu, highlighting what cities like Marka, Baraawe, and parts of Kismayo and Xamar looked like - never to be seen again. :cry:





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Physically, there's still traces of those cultures on those shores and the appearance of the cities themselves (Marka, Kismayo, Xamar, Baraawe) still look identical to their Kenyan coastal counterparts - just with the addition of undesirable Galguduudian elements. :?

They must be pissed off that Somalis from Eastleigh are starting to buy property in their cities of Lamu and Mombasa, I hear they hate Somalis with a passion. :lol:
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Those people love being kenyan. They have completely integrated into Kenyan society.
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Enlightened~Sista wrote:Those people love being kenyan. They have completely integrated into Kenyan society.
Well of course, why not - Kenya's official language was theirs before anyone. I don't see how that has anything to do with the topic. :|
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A lot of them moved to the Kenyan and Tanzanian coasts where they share culture and sometimes language (Barwani, Bajuni are all Swahili dialects). Actually they have amassed on the Kenyan coast in such large numbers that ethnic Somalis cannot really identify their Somali coastal countrymen from the Swahili in Kenya, as a result they call all Kenyan Swahili particularly in Mombasa, Lamu, Malindi, etc bibi (Benadiri, Bajuni, Barawani, and Balochi).

However, I really think the Bantu numbers in Somalia have to be rethought. I can't help but notice the news feeds and pictures from the Dadaab refugee camp show people who are predominantly ethnic Somalis but the pictures and feeds from inside Somalia particularly Mogadishu environs show people predominant who are Bantu. Anyone else notice that?
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Im afraid the bantu has multiplied the last 2 decades. Plus 30 000 of their kin now live in america, so we can basicly imagine the diaspora bantus inciting the local bantus to give the somali goverment one hell of a headache.


As for the non somali miniorities. Who cares, they never were patriots anyway.
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Voltage wrote:A lot of them moved to the Kenyan and Tanzanian coasts where they share culture and sometimes language (Barwani, Bajuni are all Swahili dialects). Actually they have amassed on the Kenyan coast in such large numbers that ethnic Somalis cannot really identify their Somali coastal countrymen from the Swahili in Kenya, as a result they call all Kenyan Swahili particularly in Mombasa, Lamu, Malindi, etc bibi (Benadiri, Bajuni, Barawani, and Balochi).

However, I really think the Bantu numbers in Somalia have to be rethought. I can't help but notice the news feeds and pictures from the Dadaab refugee camp show people who are predominantly ethnic Somalis but the pictures and feeds from inside Somalia particularly Mogadishu environs show people predominant who are Bantu. Anyone else notice that?
Indeed i have noticed that. The figures regarding bantus in somalia is increadibly supressed when i see them on images in masses waiting for food aid.
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Voltage wrote:A lot of them moved to the Kenyan and Tanzanian coasts where they share culture and sometimes language (Barwani, Bajuni are all Swahili dialects). Actually they have amassed on the Kenyan coast in such large numbers that ethnic Somalis cannot really identify their Somali coastal countrymen from the Swahili in Kenya, as a result they call all Kenyan Swahili particularly in Mombasa, Lamu, Malindi, etc bibi (Benadiri, Bajuni, Barawani, and Balochi).

However, I really think the Bantu numbers in Somalia have to be rethought. I can't help but notice the news feeds and pictures from the Dadaab refugee camp show people who are predominantly ethnic Somalis but the pictures and feeds from inside Somalia particularly Mogadishu environs show people predominant who are Bantu. Anyone else notice that?
Yes.
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It is interesting to note I wasn't the only one who noticed.
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While we were busy killing one another the Bantus have multiplied.
They are no longer a minority but a majority
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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:It effectively wiped out all ethnic minorities except Somalis and their Bantu brothers; the strongest of the pack. No more Arabs, Indians, Barawanis, Shanshi, or Bajunis ever again in the history of Somalia - 800 years of their history on Somalia's shores effectively wiped out by a few hundred armed militia from Galguduud - the biggest cultural extinction in modern history. :lol:

I was reminded of this when I was looking through an old topic with pics of Lamu on the Swahili Coast. From Mombasa to pretty much Xamar was inhabited for centuries by large populations of near-eastern cultural groups, below are pics of Lamu, highlighting what cities like Marka, Baraawe, and parts of Kismayo and Xamar looked like - never to be seen again. :cry:
Wrong, many of them are unfortunately still around. They also started to migrate to areas you wouldn't find them before the war inside Somalia (Bosaso etc).
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Mckuus wrote:
Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:It effectively wiped out all ethnic minorities except Somalis and their Bantu brothers; the strongest of the pack. No more Arabs, Indians, Barawanis, Shanshi, or Bajunis ever again in the history of Somalia - 800 years of their history on Somalia's shores effectively wiped out by a few hundred armed militia from Galguduud - the biggest cultural extinction in modern history. :lol:

I was reminded of this when I was looking through an old topic with pics of Lamu on the Swahili Coast. From Mombasa to pretty much Xamar was inhabited for centuries by large populations of near-eastern cultural groups, below are pics of Lamu, highlighting what cities like Marka, Baraawe, and parts of Kismayo and Xamar looked like - never to be seen again. :cry:
Wrong, many of them are unfortunately still around. They also started to migrate to areas you wouldn't find them before the war inside Somalia (Bosaso etc).
Very small minority in Bosaso anyways, and they live in the outskirts of the city.
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Re: One Side-Effect of the Civil War (photos included)

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Mckuus wrote:
Wrong, many of them are unfortunately still around. They also started to migrate to areas you wouldn't find them before the war inside Somalia (Bosaso etc).
What makes their continued stay in their historical land "unfortunate"? :?
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AhmedBoqor wrote:Very small minority in Bosaso anyways, and they live in the outskirts of the city.
I saw quite a few of them there (as they are visibly easy to spot).
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Voltage wrote:What makes their continued stay in their historical land "unfortunate"? :?
Because they are technically foreigners. :|
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