the case of the phantom marehan state in bari

[gemini_snake]

a certain someone has been running around with some ridiculous claim of a marehan sultanate in coastal bari in the late 19th century. the only "proof" was this source:




every other clan that was chronicled in the above source still lives in the same territory - for ex, the warsangeli still live west of bender ziyade (qaw) and the dhulbahante in nogal and buhodle. there are no other sources that have ever showed marehans living in bender ziyada and the majerteen sultanate in the same area, at the same period where this marehan sultanate was supposed to exist is well documented so this seems to be nothing more than a misprint/error. i don't think it was out of line of me to ask for additional proof but unfortunately it was too much for some people and every single one of my posts in the topic ( except for one) was deleted. hijacking other peoples history has become a hobby for some.


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[Aseelah-Raaida]

I asked that same person who the leader was of the phantom Sultanate and my question was deleted.

[gemini_snake]

I asked that same person who the leader was of the phantom Sultanate and my question was deleted.

they're grasping at straws. it's not like deleting posts will make the truth go away.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

I asked that same person who the leader was of the phantom Sultanate and my question was deleted.

they're grasping at straws. it's not like deleting posts will make the truth go away.

All of the Sultanates in the area that is now called Puntland are well known and their castles are still standing today for all to see.

[damu]

claiming Galkayo was not enough now a sultanate in Bari

[The_Emperior5]

The source you posted is so wrong he says the Habar awal and Habartoljaale are together called the Habar magaadle

[Aseelah-Raaida]

The source you posted is so wrong he says the Habar awal and Habartoljaale are together called the Habar magaadle

& this is the only source provided ,I'm expecting some doctored maps to be posted.

[gemini_snake]

The source you posted is so wrong he says the Habar awal and Habartoljaale are together called the Habar magaadle

and there goes that source. if that info is wrong, how can we trust anything else that is written in the source?

claiming ahmed gurey was not enough, claiming to be the first somalis at everything was not enough, now they want to claim the sultanate of majerteenia.

[Voltage]

You gave a paragraph long protestation that was not touched in which you erroneously ridiculed the historical population movement of the Marehan as well as let it be known you believed the source "mistyped" for that specific section. I am told that was not touched because it seemed as if you were giving your legitimate opinion, however after that point it became a troll session.

Aseelah, who is to know who was the exact ruler at any one point? The Marehan sultanate is mentioned from the 1400 hundreds and beyond, in the Futah to French and Arabic sources and beyond, in which they were consistently labeled the "leaders of the Somalis". Who is to know who was the exact ruler at any one point? This is not like Suldan Kenadid and Suldan Cali Yusuf who are the first guys to enter Majerten and governance into written history.

[Voltage]

claiming to be the first somalis at everything was not enough,

When you say "claim", it makes it seem it is not established fact and that, Gemini, makes it seem you are envious for Majerten. That is not a good character trait.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Here he is ,Mr Alternate History himself ,niicda naga dhaaf. Post sources ,we know you have a collection of every single article/book/leaflet/blog that mentions Marehan.

[gemini_snake]

i was "trolling"? that's your reason for deleting my post when i asked for additional sources to prove this claim? and then you posted in this topic and still haven't been able to post any additional sources. that shows exactly why my post was deleted.

lol @ your claim that majerteens were first mentioned in history with sultan kenadiid, even though the sultanate of majerteeniya existed well before the sultanate of obbia. i like the diversion tactic that you're using here, but even if mjs weren't mentioned in history before sultan kenadiid it still doesn't change the fact that a marehan sultanate in qaw never existed.

at the end of the day, you're marehan - sade - darood. you should be comparing yourself to kombe, not majerteen.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Aseelah, who is to know who was the exact ruler at any one point? The Marehan sultanate is mentioned from the 1400 hundreds and beyond, in the Futah to French and Arabic sources and beyond, in which they were consistently labeled the "leaders of the Somalis". Who is to know who was the exact ruler at any one point? This is not like Suldan Kenadid and Suldan Cali Yusuf who are the first guys to enter Majerten and governance into written history.

Cute fairytale, post sources that prove that Marehan had a Sultanate in Puntland and were the "leaders of Somalis" .

[gemini_snake]

we're still waiting. don't come back with a 3 paragraph rant about marehan and majerteen... we just want you to bring proof that marehan had a sultanate in present day puntland.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Gems,

He knows who every single notable Marehan is and their abtiris etc but can't tell us the names of the leaders of the phantom Marehan Sultanate.
He's just bluffing and will cling onto this one incorrect source like his life depends on it.