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Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:14 am
by gurey25
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/james ... nge-shock/

f Michael Crichton had lived to write a follow-up to State of Fear, the plotline might well have gone like this: at a top secret, state of the art laboratory in Switzerland, scientists finally discover the true cause of “global warming”. It’s the sun, stupid. More specifically – as the Danish physicist Henrik Svensmark has long postulated – it’s the result of cosmic rays which act as a seed for cloud formation. The scientists working on the project are naturally euphoric: this is a major breakthrough which will not only overturn decades of misguided conjecture on so-called Man Made Global Warming but will spare the global economy trillions of dollars which might otherwise have been squandered on utterly pointless efforts to reduce anthropogenic CO2 emissions. However, these scientists have failed to realise just how many people – alarmist scientists, huckster politicians, rent-seeking landowners like (the late Michael Crichton’s brilliant and, of course, entirely fictional creation) the absurd, pompous Sir Reginald Leeds Bt, green activists, eco-fund managers, EU technocrats, MSM environmental correspondents – stand to gain from the Man Made “Climate Change” industry. Their discovery must be suppressed at all costs. So, one by one, the scientists on the cosmic ray project find themselves being bumped off, until only one man remains and must race against time to prove, etc, etc…
Except of course in the real world the second part wouldn’t happen. No one would need to go to the trouble of bumping off those pesky scientists with their awkward, annoying facts and their proper actual research. That’s because the MSM and the scientific “community” would find it perfectly easy to suppress the story anyway, without recourse to severed brake cables or ricin-impregnated hand-washes or staged “suicides”.
This is exactly what has happened with the latest revelations from CERN over its landmark CLOUD experiment, whose significance Lawrence Solomon explains here:
The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.
The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.
So if it’s so great, why aren’t we hearing more about it? Well, possibly because the Director General of CERN Rolf-Dieter Heuer would prefer it that way. Here’s how he poured cold water on the results in an interview with Die Welt Online:
I have asked the colleagues to present the results clearly, but not to interpret them. That would go immediately into the highly political arena of the climate change debate. One has to make clear that cosmic radiation is only one of many parameters.
Nigel Calder, who has been following the CLOUD experiment for some time, was the first to smell a rat. He notes:
CERN has joined a long line of lesser institutions obliged to remain politically correct about the man-made global warming hypothesis. It’s OK to enter “the highly political arena of the climate change debate” provided your results endorse man-made warming, but not if they support Svensmark’s heresy that the Sun alters the climate by influencing the cosmic ray influx and cloud formation.
and
The once illustrious CERN laboratory ceases to be a truly scientific institute when its Director General forbids its physicists and visiting experimenters to draw the obvious scientific conclusions from their results
Lubos Motl, too, detects some double standards here:
One could perhaps understand if all scientists were similarly gagged and prevented from interpreting the results of their research in ways that could be relevant for policymaking. However, the main problem is that many people who are trying to work on very different phenomena in the climate are not prevented from interpreting – and indeed, overinterpreting and misinterpreting – their results that are often less serious, less reliable, and less rigorous, perhaps by orders of magnitude, than the observations by the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
Moreover, this sentence by Heuer
One has to make clear that cosmic radiation is only one of many parameters.is really a proof of his prejudice. Whether the cosmic radiation is just one player or the only relevant player or an important player or an unimportant player is something that this very research has been supposed to determine or help to determine. An official doesn’t have the moral right to predetermine in advance what “one has to make clear” about these a priori unknown scientific results.
But then, as Lawrence Solomon reminds us, this was never an experiment the scientific establishment wanted to happen in the first place.
The hypothesis that cosmic rays and the sun hold the key to the global warming debate has been Enemy No. 1 to the global warming establishment ever since it was first proposed by two scientists from the Danish Space Research Institute, at a 1996 scientific conference in the U.K. Within one day, the chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Bert Bolin, denounced the theory, saying, “I find the move from this pair scientifically extremely naive and irresponsible.” He then set about discrediting the theory, any journalist that gave the theory cre dence, and most of all the Danes presenting the theory — they soon found themselves vilified, marginalized and starved of funding, despite their impeccable scientific credentials.
The mobilization to rally the press against the Danes worked brilliantly, with one notable exception. Nigel Calder, a former editor of The New Scientist who attended that 1996 conference, would not be cowed. Himself a physicist, Mr. Calder became convinced of the merits of the argument and a year later, following a lecture he gave at a CERN conference, so too did Jasper Kirkby, a CERN scientist in attendance. Mr. Kirkby then convinced the CERN bureaucracy of the theory’s importance and developed a plan to create a cloud chamber — he called it CLOUD, for “Cosmics Leaving OUtdoor Droplets.”
But Mr. Kirkby made the same tactical error that the Danes had — not realizing how politicized the global warming issue was, he candidly shared his views with the scientific community.
“The theory will probably be able to account for somewhere between a half and the whole of the increase in the Earth’s temperature that we have seen in the last century,” Mr. Kirkby told the scientific press in 1998, explaining that global warming may be part of a natural cycle in the Earth’s temperature.
The global warming establishment sprang into action, pressured the Western governments that control CERN, and almost immediately succeeded in suspending CLOUD. It took Mr. Kirkby almost a decade of negotiation with his superiors, and who knows how many compromises and unspoken commitments, to convince the CERN bureaucracy to allow the project to proceed. And years more to create the cloud chamber and convincingly validate the Danes’ groundbreaking theory.
Still, as you’d expect, the BBC remains dutifully on-message. Read this report by its science correspondent Pallab Ghosh and you’ll be left in little doubt that a) the latest results are dull beyond measure and b) that if they do mean anything at all, it’s that global warming is still very much man-made. Here’s their tame expert, Reading University’s Dr Mike Lockwood, on hand to provide them the perfect pull-quote:
Does this mean that cosmic rays can produce cloud? – No”
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Tags: CERN, CLOUD, global warming, Michael Crichton, Nigel Calder, Svensmark

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:15 am
by gurey25
Al gore and those climate change fools should be lined up and shot..

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:20 am
by abdikarim86
Biggest con of all time.

Have you read james Delingpole's other blog posts Gurey?

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:27 am
by Babygirl-
Still Human activity is adding to climate change.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:34 am
by Cali_Gaab
Babygirl- wrote:Still Human activity is adding to climate change.
Thank you for your wise input :lol:

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:38 am
by Babygirl-
Go open a thread for a new guy you have a crush on Caasho-Gaab.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:52 am
by Voltage
Seems like the British version of Glenn Beck.
James Delingpole is a writer, journalist and broadcaster who is right about everything. He is the author of numerous fantastically entertaining books including 365 Ways to Drive a Liberal Crazy, Welcome To Obamaland: I've Seen Your Future And It Doesn't Work, How To Be Right, and the Coward series of WWII adventure novels. His website is www.jamesdelingpole.com.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:57 am
by Voltage
Babygirl- wrote:Still Human activity is adding to climate change.
I hardly pay attention to anything on the issue that uses "global warming".

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:01 am
by Cali_Gaab
Babygirl, how's the jihaad going? I was reading an old topic of yours and it made me chuckle :lol:

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:14 am
by Grant
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... orthodoxy/

Here's the National Post version with an intro that will warm the cockles of any Muslim's heart!

What bothers me about all this is that the ice in Greenland and the poles is melting. Furthermore, we had significant rain here in July this year and so much overcast we didn't get any tomatoes. And the weather for the past ten years has not seemed quite normal. Where has this worst drought in 60 years in the Horn come from? Is it climate change, or just part of a long cycle?

Cosmic rays and the sun could be part of what's happening and still not be all, or even the most significant part, of it. The last time all this CO2 was in circulation was during the Carboniferious period.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carbo ... imate.html

The climate we know only occurred after all that CO2 got tied up in the fossil fuels, at the end of the Carboniferous.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:36 am
by gurey25
Grant this is all a swindle..
The powers that be are opposed to any real reduction in the output of CO2, why? because the real alternatives will create a new golden age and drive economic progress around the world, but reduce their influence and control.

This is why they push for mumbo jumbo like solar power and wind and the evil and destructive hoax called Biofuel..

There is only 1 solution and that is nuclear power, and it is good old fission not fusion although this is an attainable goal if enough resources where thrown at it.
Nuclear is getting allot of bad rap these days with Fukushima and all, but Fukushima is a 1960's second generation nuclear powerplant design.
and we already have mature and proven 3rd generation designs that are meltdown proof smaller and easier to build and cheaper but providing more power as well..
One example is the design the UAE has agreed to purchase from south korea..

There 4rth generation designs have also matured without the 3rde generation comming into full production.

4rth generation designs provide several times the power, are meltdown proof, you can fire artillary shells at it and it wont have a runaway reaction but simply shut down with minimal radioation leaks.
For those who keep talking about the dangers of nuclear waste, 4rth generation plants will be fueled by nuclear waste and also by decommissioned fuel from nuclear weapons.

No waste issues , no meltdown or saftey issues and they are all modular so they will be small, with some the size of a Shipping container..
They can be mass produced.

The fuel is also there, world uranium reserves will last for another 150 years, world thorium reserves will last for 300-400 years..
We will have fusion online long before then, if a world wide Manhattan project scale project was undertaken it could be online in less than 20 years..

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:39 am
by Grant
OK. But nuclear jumps around the CO2 issue.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:52 am
by gurey25
it does, but dont you find it strange that those who are fanatically for the idea of climate change and the greenhouse affect, are vehemently against nuclear
which will achieve their stated goals and benefit everyone..

sadly the peak oil hocus pokus has been disproven, there is allot more oil out there, and the recent advances in shale gas exploitation and shale oil in the future will mean that the US, and possible Europe will greatly reduce oil imports, and produce and consume more oil...

more CO2 emmisions are in the future and the fukushima fiasco will provide enough ammunition to bury nuclear for the foreseeable future..


sad very sad.

Re: Its the Sun Stupid !!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:00 am
by SahanGalbeed
Babygirl- wrote:Still Human activity is adding to climate change.
Right .