For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:08 pm
by abdalla11
One of the most important PL ministers, Professor Abdulqadir Xaashi, set things straight; this isn't a war against a Puntland clan but it's a war against terrorists who were active in Garsoor district. He further highlights that PL took the same measures against insurgents in other regions, such as Bari, Mudug and Karkaar.
Prof. Abdulkadir Abdi Hashi, minister for Planning and International Cooperation meeting with Ben Knapen, Dutch State Secretary for Education.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:36 pm
by Enlightened
I have listened to it early today, and it is clearly apprent this is not about qabil. Even Reuters reported today that Puntland is fighting Al-shabab terrorists in Galkacyo and Galmudug is lending them a hand.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:41 pm
by uglybrother
smfh!!! Aren't the pirates terrorists then? Why don't we see the Pland government use it's entire force on them? Just an example guys, I personally don't believe the pirates are terrorists.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:52 pm
by siren
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:12 am
by Xamud.
He is dead to us, this pakistani looking Leelkase is a sell out, every clan has them.
If they are really not fighting a clan, go read what the situation is like today, there is Ergos from every single Darood tribe in Gaalkacyo, weey so buux dhafshen Gaalkacyo. And they have all seen who is fighting, Islaan Bashiir is in Gaalkacyo right now. The Leelkase tribe has said they are not willing to engage in talks with Xukumada Gacankudhiglaha ah, but they are willing to solve this for the sake of peace, and for the sake of Gaalkacyo.
Its sad that you guys are blinded by your hatred for Alshabab, when the reality is, Khalif Cisse Mudan tried to commit a genocide towards a entire tribe.
I have not met, seen or spoken to a Leelkase who says this is not a war against us as whole.
Despite the fact that they used over 1500 men and 30 teknikos, including tanks,BM and 37 Zu, they were kept out
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:35 am
by abdalla11
He's fiqi ismaciil, i know Reer Xaashi, they're decent people.
It's not a war against any clan. Besides Garsoor isn't a LL exclusive neighbourhood and everybody is feeling the heat. As for the peace talks, ninyahow give me a break. Gen. Muuse ilkadheere was shot in the head when he approached the militants for peace talks. He wasn't even involved when the shootings started. The first thing he did when he arrived is approaching the other side for peace talks.
Everybody who has connections in GK knows that the militants are not one clan, they consist many clan from Harti to Eelay. But LL is giving them a platform to fight against the authority
Siren,
Why you laughing
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:44 am
by Xamud.
abdalla11 wrote:He's fiqi ismaciil, i know Reer Xaashi, they're decent people.
It's not a war against any clan. Besides Garsoor isn't a LL exclusive neighbourhood and everybody is feeling the heat. As for the peace talks, ninyahow give me a break. Gen. Muuse ilkadheere was shot in the head when he approached the militants for peace talks. He wasn't even involved when the shootings started. The first thing he did when he arrived is approaching the other side for peace talks.
Everybody who has connections in GK knows that the militants are not one clan, they consist many clan from Harti to Eelay. But LL is giving them a platform to fight against the authority
Siren,
Why you laughing
The circumstances which General ilkadheer was killing under are shady right now, some say he came for peace, others say he was trying to drag a ruined tekniko. I do not agree with the killing of the General, but if he was trying to drag a ruined tekniko, then he was killed under fighting.
The Militia consist of Leelkase, no one else, Eelays fighting in Gaalkacyo Harti sxb ariinti waa fashinlantay ruunti.
Reer Xashi are reer Xaaji, same shit though, they are decent people, this dude is a sell out, frigging asian looking like sell out.
He knows nothing, listening to what the Duqa ku-xigeenka Magalaada Gaalkacyo said about this whole issue.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:58 am
by abdalla11
lol@ comparing a heavyweight PL minister who's considered the man behind Puntland's international relationships and on top of that a Professor with a 30 year old newly appointed vice mayor who was laughing when he made that statements. War kaasi waa doqon wallahi, laughing during serius matters
You can downplay others involvements but the fact is several qabiil participated.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:16 am
by Xamud.
War waxaas waxa la daha Qosal gariir geedyahow, naxdin beey ahayd iyo qiro maha farxad
Abdalla you can have him, he is not one of us, wuxuu is yirii dhoofki badna iyo diyaaradihi aad Faroole la raci jirtay ba wayneysa haadi ruunta ka hadashid. Waa caadiqato. Tell him he will not be getting his share of the Halaal meat pie when this calms down, lacagtisa waxaa la sinayaa Ku xigeenka Duqa Magalaada Gaalkacyo, he can buy himself new clothes, and maybe afford to hire a spokesman next time.
You guys had a fair share of them during the last regime, not every Majerteen supported the SSDF, same can be said about SNM and all other factions.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:32 am
by abdalla11
war ku xigeenka hilib ma qali karo waa doqon
The thing is, you have to look at the quality of your people. During the SSDF our best men supported it, and wallahi i always considered Ina Xaashi to be amongt the best of Leelkasse.
Ina Xaashi and the vice mayor are not in the same league, wax kasta lagama doodo
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:40 am
by Xamud.
abdalle
Inadeer hayee, lets just agree on disagreeing.
At the end of the day, waxaan isku raceynaa, in Gaalkacyo nabad u bahantahay, xabadu common enemy no tahay, and that we are ehel.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:40 am
by abdalla11
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:11 am
by Cinque Mtume
Ask yourself Xamud, why would Puntland or Omar Mohamud for that matter attack Leelkase as a clan, when every other Omar Mohamud oday either had a LL (grand)mother or his daughter or sister is married to LL? There was no growing tension that lead to an explosion. Just an incident that got blown way out of proportion. Both sides are wrong. They should have sent a more diverse crew qabiilwise to Garsoor and assessed the situation more maturely, instead of behaving like they were in their own Israac area. On the other hand beesha LL seefta beey la boodeen, that's what I believe. P.I.S. blew the balloon, but your clan weey sii afuufeen ilaa uu kala qarxey.
When both sides see their mistakes, peace will return.
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:28 am
by Xamud.
Cinque Mtume wrote:Ask yourself Xamud, why would Puntland or Omar Mohamud for that matter attack Leelkase as a clan, when every other Omar Mohamud oday either had a LL (grand)mother or his daughter or sister is married to LL? There was no growing tension that lead to an explosion. Just an incident that got blown way out of proportion. Both sides are wrong. They should have sent a more diverse crew qabiilwise to Garsoor and assessed the situation more maturely, instead of behaving like they were in their own Israac area. On the other hand beesha LL seefta beey la boodeen, that's what I believe. P.I.S. blew the balloon, but your clan weey sii afuufeen ilaa uu kala qarxey.
When both sides see their mistakes, peace will return.
I agree, Leelkase should not have responded fiercly, but what were they suppose to do, you know if they would have let the P.I.S into Garsoor, it will would have been dooms day for them. But there is no tension between Cumar Mahamud and Leelkase, granted some Cumar Mahamuds joined the fighting. But there is no beef between them whatso ever, Islaanka is there now, Garaadka Cabdi Cise is there, every prominent man from both sides are there now.
I think what needs to be done is, if the P.I.S want to success they need to recruit Leelkase, and say Leelkasow nabad haaday daan idin tahay, so qabqabta your bad elements. Laakin no more madfac, reer mahads are saying airporkeno ayaa lo daan leyahay, Faroole iyo Leelkase airportkeno u daan leyihiin
Re: For those who doubted: A LL minister tells the truth
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:56 am
by Cinque Mtume
You're right, the P.I.S. is a subclan club, because of corruption and nepotism caused by the CIA who gave a bunch of ex-SSDF odayaal a sack of money and told them to get the terrorists, and zero accountability to the PL government. As long as the CIA sees results by any means necessary, that's why the P.I.S. is hated so much in Bosaso. It's a fact that they arrest wadaado for no reason, just to keep the US dollars flowing.
Like you said rag culus from both sides are going to talk about the whole situation, the causes and how to move on from here. Let's hope they can bring the changes needed so this never happens again. One of them is tackling the P.I.S. officers issue.