Ismaaciil Cumar Geele's take on the former JVA

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Ismaaciil Cumar Geele's take on the former JVA

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This was before even the ICU took over Mogadishu when the Ayr led Habar Gidir and the US asked Guelle to use his links with Abdiqasim to open a channel with them
DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process.Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan
. Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.
Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan
. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them
. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."
http://cables.mrkva.eu/cable.php?id=59691
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Re: Ismaaciil Cumar Geele's take on the former JVA

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Recently responded to Guhad
Voltage wrote:Btw why are the Ogadens so obsessed on Cayr? If Cayr and Marehan had equal partnership in JVA or were driven by same interest, why is Marehan the most significant group in Kismaayo even today while Cayr's association with the city ended when the JVA ended? Maybe you guys have a perpetual fear of Cayr or Habar Gidir, but we live with them in Galgaduud and lead them there and know them. The partnership between Marehan and Cayr was a strategic one that had more today with national politics than just a local issue for Marehan in Kismaayo. I think it is time you moved on. Where was Cayr the last time a clan war happened in Kismaayo after the ICU was removed and Marehan expelled the Ogadeni militia led by Koojaar and the Harti militia led by Afgaduud? :lol:

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In the end the objective of the alliance for Marehan has succeeded because their presence in Kismaayo and their foremost position in a Jubbaland state is legitimized while Cayr/Habar Gidir have lost all positions in the Lower Shabelle and been totally removed from the equation in the southern theater. I think it is time you moved on and accepted the truth before you. Kismaayo is today like Caabudwaaq or Garbahareey to Marehan. :up:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=284840&p=3330438p3330438
Wallahi now that I realize it, since the JVA ended Cayr and Habar Gidir have not really been heard from in the southern theater :|
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oo aaway ku markasta ku hayey Ayr Ayr

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CoolPoisons wrote:oo aaway ku markasta ku hayey Ayr Ayr

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xaqiiqda way ogyihiine, mowqif kale ayee wataan.
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