What happened during 1990-1992

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What happened during 1990-1992

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Me and abdiwahab were debating about the wars that occured in Xamar during the USC VS Siad Barre war.

He argued that the war was between USC (Hawiye) and all Daaroods. Well afcourse this nonsense. I mean how could Hawiye beat the mighty Daarood as one? The truth was USC fought with different Daarood sub-clans during different times :lol:

The true fact was the war was between USC (Hawiye) and Marehan. All the Daarood sub-clans were against the Marehan and helped USC to defeat us, specially the SPM (Ogaden) and SSDF (Majerteen, Warsangali). The only Daaroods that helped Marehans were Dhulbhante despite them leaving us shortly. After Marehans got defeated after we did many re-attacks also the Marehans themselves divided into anti-siad barre camp and pro-siad barre camp thats why at the end USC entered Gedo, the Hawiye faced the remainding Daaroods mainly Harti in mogadishu when Marehans left even though the Marehans continued the counter-attacks.

Now what went wrong?

If all Daaroods defended Marehan and fought alongside Siad Barre, USC would had never controlled Xamar, the fight between Aidid and Mahdi wouldn't had occured and the massacre done by Marehan towards Raxanweyn in Bay and Bakool would had never happened also hence the 1992 famine wouldn't also occur.

If all Daaroods united, Somalia today would not suffer 20 years of civil war and al-shabaab. But shalayto waa shay xaraan so what happened, 'happened'.
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Re: What happened during 1990-1992

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Haye do you want a rematch? You get all the Daroods, he gets all the Hawiyes, you meet in some empty land in Mudug and you lot go at it. Last man standing wins.
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BlackVelvet wrote:Haye do you want a rematch? You get all the Daroods, he gets all the Hawiyes, you meet in some empty land in Mudug and you lot go at it. Last man standing wins.
the question is when will Daaroods unite? :lol:
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:lol:

Now that you mention it. AW had a location that had the intention to cause Daroods to unite, I can't quite remember how it went.


Oooooh now I see, it makes sense. "how could Hawiye beat the mighty Daarood as one" you are trying to create an online SNet D-Block unity campaign by using Hawiye as the usual boogeyman. Ku gartey. Haye let the festitivities begin!


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I believe it was only habar gidir that was involved in hawiye vs darod juboyinka conflicts and it was only hg led by qaybdiid that attacked majerteen in gaalkacayo but any way waxasi waa in the past inaga daaya
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hargaysaay wrote:I believe it was only habar gidir that was involved in hawiye vs darod juboyinka conflicts and it war only hg led by qaybdiid that attacked majerteen in gaalkacayo but any way waxasi waa in the past inaga daaya
am i talking about jubooyinka? idiot
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BlackVelvet wrote::lol:

Now that you mention it. AW had a location that had the intention to cause Daroods to unite, I can't quite remember how it went.


Oooooh now I see, it makes sense. "how could Hawiye beat the mighty Daarood as one" you are trying to create an online SNet D-Block unity campaign by using Hawiye as the usual boogeyman. Ku gartey. Haye let the festitivities begin!


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:lol: :lol: if china is united then is not impossible to unite daaroods
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Awraadle wrote:
hargaysaay wrote:I believe it was only habar gidir that was involved in hawiye vs darod juboyinka conflicts and it war only hg led by qaybdiid that attacked majerteen in gaalkacayo but any way waxasi waa in the past inaga daaya
am i talking about jubooyinka? idiot
oww my bad it was only cayr led by the infamous captain shabeel not the entire hg thanks for correcting me awradle :up:
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hargaysaay wrote:
Awraadle wrote:
hargaysaay wrote:I believe it was only habar gidir that was involved in hawiye vs darod juboyinka conflicts and it war only hg led by qaybdiid that attacked majerteen in gaalkacayo but any way waxasi waa in the past inaga daaya
am i talking about jubooyinka? idiot
oww my bad it was only cayr led by the infamous captain shabeel not the entire hg thanks for correcting me awradle :up:
:lol: :lol: mirqaan iga dheh
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Awraadle inaga daa civil warki how is our hero farmajo doing is he planing to run in 2012
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hargaysaay wrote:Awraadle inaga daa civil warki how is our hero farmajo doing is he planing to run in 2012
his plan is going good. how are you doing? are those qaldaans listening to you yet, how many isaaqs did u invite to follow the blue flag yet?
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SNM deserves credit too. but i care less as we have our own country now and you guys are still bickering 20+ years later.
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miskeen86 wrote:SNM deserves credit too. but i care less as we have our own country now and you guys are still bickering 20+ years later.
:lol: :lol: credit for what?
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How can i invite them to raise the blue flag when they were the first somalis to erect and raise it on a free somali soil :D
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Re: What happened during 1990-1992

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1988 is the year that you should be looking at... and you should be blaming the Eritreans for the downfall of your beloved MOD empire.

History lesson for you..
In 1988 the battle of afabet took place one of the most decisive in modern history, up there with Dien Bien Phu.
The EPLF tricked the best division in the Ethiopian Army ( Nadew Division) into one huge ambush and completely wiped it out.
This started the end of the Derg Regime as the EPLF were victorious from then on and there were no soviets or cubans to help, thanks to MR Gorbachev.

Mengistu Panicked and went to siayad to offer him truce if he stops funding the EPLF/TPLF/OLF/ALF rebels and what remained of the WSLF, in exchange for the explusion of the SNM from Ethiopia.
Your uncle agreed, and what did this lead to?

1. The Ogaden one of the pillars of the MOD and making up a large part of the army were pissed off and formed the SPM, making a large part of the army untrustable to Siyad.

2.The SNM had no choice but to attack and bring the war fully into Somaliland and engage the Somali Army, instead of guerilla attacks from the border
Leading to mass murder of Isaaq and the start of a life and death match with no quarter asked or given.
From 1980 til 1988 there was allot of secret communication betweent he SNM and the Government with the Government offering enticements to stop the war.
After 1988 there was zero communication at all, all attempts at communication were rejected by the SNM, as of 1988 they did not consider the Somali
government to exist at all.


You are right you faced the USC i.e HG against Marexaan in 1990 why was this?

because of your startegic miscalculation and stuborness, the Somalia army was up north tied up in fighting the SNM and you had nobody to defend the capital
and the SPM was also biting at your heels.


What you should have done?

1. Withdraw from Hargiesa and Burco, and try to keep berbera and Shiekh as it would prevent the SNM from capturing a major port and would keep them contained.
Also berbera is easier to defend than Burco or Hargiesa .
You should have sent the Army back to the South to battle the USC and SPM.


If you did this you would have had another few years in power and all the chaos and destruction would not have happened.
The USC would have fragmented by 1995, or would have become mature and organized like the SNM and their might have been a change in power from Millitary to Civilian control by moderates like what the SNM experienced.
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