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Many years ago as a child i came across Erich von Danikens Book Chariots of the Gods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F

In it Von Daniken makes the claim that our history was influenced by the visits of aliens that were worshiped as gods and they gave us advance technologies that were lost..
He was an idiot really and after reading his books again i realized how badly written and weak his arguments were but he does raise some interesting points..

There are some things that archealogists stay away from because they know they cant explain it..


The Tv show from the History channel Anceint Aliens brings allot of different insights most of them sensationalist nonsense but still interesting
http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/movi ... &sa=Search

Who has seen this, has anyone come across this before?

My personal belief is that there were no aliens just survivors of destroyed civilizations that were as advanced or more advance than us..
evey year with the advances in underwater archeology the picture of the past keeps changing,
there is evidense for advanced cultures on the sea coasts that were destroyed before the end of the neolithic period..

from Japan, to India to the US.. and the Pacific..

There are some who even believe that aliens created humans....idiotic really.

Haven't watched the show, sounds interesting.

Some may say that, some of the technology that cannot be explained came from different world..i.e..Jins and sorcery through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft. Everytime i hear so called expert talk about alien technology i translate as using jins. The pharoas were known to use black magic which can explain why some of their knowledge still baffles experts and archeologist.

934


r u the old ghetogirl? u have spirit.

934 wrote:Some may say that, some of the technology that cannot be explained came from different world..i.e..Jins and sorcery through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft. Everytime i hear so called expert talk about alien technology i translate as using jins. The pharoas were known to use black magic which can explain why some of their knowledge still baffles experts and archeologist.

There is no such thing is magic, there might be technologies so far advanced and different that we would not understand it..

Arthur C clarks 3rd law.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


If today we land in a helicopter in the middle of the amazon near the village of some undiscovered stone age tribe.
What would they think of us? what would they write about us after we teach them to read and write and teach them some basic skills and give them some of our tools..

They will write decades later that the gods came from the heavens in a gaint bird, they could make fire with their hands, kill leapords and deer by pointing magic sticks at them.
They brought us knowledge thaught us the arts and then the left us and went back to the stars..

This sounds suspiciosuly like allot of the legands of many people around the world..

934 wrote:Some may say that, some of the technology that cannot be explained came from different world..i.e..Jins and sorcery through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft. Everytime i hear so called expert talk about alien technology i translate as using jins. The pharoas were known to use black magic which can explain why some of their knowledge still baffles experts and archeologist.

The jinns. Oh, I did forget about them.

Allah knows, but I did hear numerous times that they, jinns, are light years more technologically advanced than us.

gurey25 wrote:

934 wrote:Some may say that, some of the technology that cannot be explained came from different world..i.e..Jins and sorcery through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft. Everytime i hear so called expert talk about alien technology i translate as using jins. The pharoas were known to use black magic which can explain why some of their knowledge still baffles experts and archeologist.

There is no such thing is magic, there might be technologies so far advanced and different that we would not understand it..

Arthur C clarks 3rd law.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

How can you say that there is no such thing as magic? In my book there is a thin line between sorcery and science. Magic is mentioned in our holy book with disapproval and condemnation. Didn't pharoa himself had a brigade of magicians when he opposed prophet Muusa (as)?

Basra

Did you get the message Hyper asked me to deliver to you? on your "where is hyper my odey" topic.

Von Danikens is a crackpot. There is neither any solid evidence nor good reasons to believe that there ever existed "civilizations more advanced than us." The most parsimonious explanation/hypothesis is often the correct one (Occam's razor).

Gurey we cannot remove the Jinn and in extension sorcery from ancient advanced cultures, it was known that Prophet Suleiman (AS) used to have an army of Jinn that created and helped him in all sorts of technological wonders such as building Al Aqsa Masjid. Even though this was a gift from Allah, there were many who used the Jinn such as the Jews of Egypt and Babylon.

Nobody can deny this, it's historical fact

I watched a clip on youtube about how aliens apparently build the pyramids.
They were saying that the accuracy used to design those pyramids couldn't be repeated even with todays technology which makes it more remarkable as they were build 4000 years ago.
I honestly believe that this had something to do with jinns

I also believe there's an element of racism as these westerners just dont want to believe that black people were capable of this technology. They feel more at ease saying that the pyramids were constructed by aliens

edit here's the clip



can't embed for some reason

Gurey,

friend Im happy you brought this question today because i have seen that show and I must say its nothing but wacky conspiracy theories nonsense but overally i
would say its good entertainment.

Here is the episode of Ethiopia

934 wrote:

gurey25 wrote:

934 wrote:Some may say that, some of the technology that cannot be explained came from different world..i.e..Jins and sorcery through the assistance of spirits; witchcraft. Everytime i hear so called expert talk about alien technology i translate as using jins. The pharoas were known to use black magic which can explain why some of their knowledge still baffles experts and archeologist.

There is no such thing is magic, there might be technologies so far advanced and different that we would not understand it..

Arthur C clarks 3rd law.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

How can you say that there is no such thing as magic? In my book there is a thin line between sorcery and science. Magic is mentioned in our holy book with disapproval and condemnation. Didn't pharoa himself had a brigade of magicians when he opposed prophet Muusa (as)?

Basra
Did you get the message Hyper asked me to deliver to you? on your "where is hyper my odey" topic.

Magic is using Jinns to perform actions on behalf of humans.

ahmedbrant wrote:I watched a clip on youtube about how aliens apparently build the pyramids.
They were saying that the accuracy used to design those pyramids couldn't be repeated even with todays technology which makes it more remarkable as they were build 4000 years ago.
I honestly believe that this had something to do with jinns

I also believe there's an element of racism as these westerners just dont want to believe that black people were capable of this technology. They feel more at ease saying that the pyramids were constructed by aliens

Of course there will always be a racist element wherever Blacks are concerned, or none-white. The evolution theory of Darwin is an example of racist angle from saan cadaale (white man) and their claim of ape descend. i don't know about others but to me it sound as if they are saying white people are the peak of evolution while the black man still lingers at the bottom. the animal stage as he is yet to develop and mature to full human beign.

Going back to the topic, here is a verse from the Qur'an.

And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah (Muhammad) confirming what was with them, a party of those who were given the Scripture threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know! They followed what the Shayaateen (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulayman (Solomon). Sulayman did not disbelieve, but the Shayaateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Harut and Marut, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, "We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah's permission. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves, if they but knew. (Al-Baqarah 2:101-102)

again magic is technology derived from knowledge that is either too far advanced that we cannot understand it, or it is too different that out brains cannot grasp it..

I include telephaty, telekinetic, Teleportation ,


If some one comes to you and says he is using grand magic, and then does the impossible by transporting you to another continent in less than a second
what would you do?

I would want to know how he does it...

stop this primitive thinking...

Magic exists it simply is knowledge outside the experience of human beings at the moment.