Yalaxoow, I have islamic question

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Do you realize that the prophet (sallahu aleyhi wa aali wasalam) and the 4 khulafaau rashidun used to judge ppl by the shariah law. Punishments such as stoning were carried.

Was that islamic correct or were they wahabis( nauzibillah).

[The_Emperior5]

Good question but he will come with that it never happened and will get his sources from Christian websites and that Stoning is not in the Quran thus it should not be carried out.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

@ christian websites
If that is so, I really doubt weither he is muslim or not.

Laakiin the reason why verse of stoning is not in quran is because it has been abrogated but its ruling is not.
We take religion from the Apostle, the sahaba, tabien and those who followed them in goodness.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Do you realize that the prophet (sallahu aleyhi wa aali wasalam) and the 4 khulafaau rashidun used to judge ppl by the shariah law. Punishments such as stoning were carried.

Was that islamic correct or were they wahabis( nauzibillah).

Actually its second hand fabrication that rasuul scw and so called raashiduun caliphate carried out un islamic punishment of so called STONING. in the quran clearly in 2 places, suuratul NIZAA AND SUURATUL noor ALLAH said adultry no matter if the person married or un married punishment is 100 lashes.

quran is bigger than so called hadiith. because quran we know its 100% authentic, unlike hadiiths which was written 300 years after prophets scw death.


there are even siira or islamic history writters who claime rasuul scw ORDERED to be kill a women which was pregnent, and here crime was GABAY ayey tirisay rasuulka ku cayneyso. so its that true?

aniga for me its character assisation and been abuur against rasuul scw, sababtoo ah rasuulka scw heer uu dulqaad ka gaaray dad dhagax sidii ay ugu wadeen wadjigiiisa dhiiigii ka soo baxay lugihiisa gaareen ayuu rasuuulka scw diiday in dadkaa la halaago, marka qofkiii yiraahda GABAY naag tirisay kaliyav ayuu rasuulka intuu ka carooday yiri naagta hala dilo iyadoo UUUR leh, aniga waxaan dhahayaa waxaas macquul maaha waa been abuur.

marka QURAANKA there is no stoning. bible kirishtaanka ayaaa STONING KU TAALAA. marka muslimiinta waa inay raacaan first hand QURAANKA OO AH hadalkii allah.

even haduu rasuuulka scw STONING sameeyey before THOSE VERSES against stoning ee suurtatul NUUR ay soo dagtay miyaa ama ka danbe? qof ka jawaabi kartaa ma jirto.

tusaaale SAXAABADII QAMRIGA waa cabi jireen before aayada qamriga lagu mamnuucayo ay soo degtay, quraanka xitaa waxaa ku jirta aayad oraneyso DO NOT PRAY WHILE YOUR DRUNK. laakiin aayadaa waxaa ka danbeeysay KA FOGAADA QAMRIGA. marka xitaa rasuuulka haduuu dad dhagax ku dilay ay jirto(whichs not true) waxaa ka danbeeysay LABA AAYAD QURAANKA AH, OO ORANAYA qofkiii macsiyeeysata 100 KARBAASH. marka ma ilaaheey ayaa ka caqli baddan tahay. wax uusan allah oran maxaa ku daba dhigay??

[FAH1223]

yalaxow, the two sources of Sharia are the quran and the sunnah

the prophet SAW carried out stoning. But finding adulterers requires 4 witnesses of sound mind or confession. If people keep their sins to themselves and repent, they are able to deal with that discretly and not spread their filth around the land.

Its hard enough to get these punishments implemented yet people talk about them so much. They are to remind us of the huge consequences and that it is something that shouldn't be out in the open at all.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

yalaxow, the two sources of Sharia are the quran and the sunnah

the prophet SAW carried out stoning. But finding adulterers requires 4 witnesses of sound mind or confession. If people keep their sins to themselves and repent, they are able to deal with that discretly and not spread their filth around the land.

Its hard enough to get these punishments implemented yet people talk about them so much. They are to remind us of the huge consequences and that it is something that shouldn't be out in the open at all.

stoning it not in the quran, about rasuul scw carried out stoning come from ahadiiths, as i said there are thousend of thousends ahadiith which are fabricated. even if rasuul scw carried out stoning we dont know if he carried out before this verses in suuratul nuur, 24:2 and suuuratul nizaaa was revealed.

SAHABAS use to drink QAMRI, quran says do not drink while your drunk. after that come the verse lagu mamnuucay ALKOHOLKA cabitaankiisa. SAHABAS STOP DRINKING QAMRI, marka ka waran waxaa laga yaabaa RASUUULKA SCW markuu stoning sameeynaayey inay aheeyd BEFORE verses in suuratul NOOR AND SUURATUL NIZAA aysan Soo degin.

marka IF YOUR MUSLIM YOU HAVE TO FELLOW THE QURAN in the first hand. THE REAL TRUE SUNNAH OF THE RASUUL IS THE QURAN. quran is compelete sunnah. there are thousends of thousends man made axadiiths. if axadiith contradicts what allah said in quran then that axaaadiith should be tottaly ignored.

QURAN says naagtii iyo ninkii sineeysta 100 karbaash. marka hadii aad la timaado axadiith contracidtion ku sameeynaya ee oranaya DILA , markaa waxaa waajib ah aayada quraanka inaad raacdo.

QURAN= REAL SUNNAH OF THE RASUUUL

of course there are goood axaadiith laakiin axadiith waxaaa ka weeyn the word of allah(quran)


stoning is from the BIBLE, it has nothing to do whit ISLAM.

[Khalid Ali]

Yalaxow are you by any chance a Quranic Muslim and you reject the hadiths you do know the hadith imam hutuking and Fah are referring to is a Saxiix Xadiith authentic not daciif First of all Quran is the Kalimatulahil Culya its not From Prophet Muhammad its from the All mighty but in islam we follow the teachings of Prophet Muhammad he taught us they way we should practice Islam ,do you want to reject what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him used to do ?

[FAH1223]

the hadiths are in sahih bukhari and muslim. Do you know they compiled thousands of hadith and they eliminated the vast majority of them and put their collections to ones that specifically did not contradict quranic principles

these men devoted their lives to this research, i got trust that they did the right thing

there are many weak hadith but you wont find them in muslim or bukhari..

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Yalaxoow, its a historical fact that a pregnant woman begged the prophet pbuh to relieve her from sin( zina) by stoning her.
Iam surprised to notice that you are rejecting hadiths when in quran it says: whoever obeys the messenger pbuh has indeed Obeyed Allah. And : whatever the messenger gives you take, whatever he withholds leave it.

How are you praying tarawih? How are you making hajj rituals? How are you senting salawat on the prophet pbuh...... Without hadiths?

[DR-YALAXOOW]

the hadiths are in sahih bukhari and muslim. Do you know they compiled thousands of hadith and they eliminated the vast majority of them and put their collections to ones that specifically did not contradict quranic principles

these men devoted their lives to this research, i got trust that they did the right thing

there are many weak hadith but you wont find them in muslim or bukhari..

bukhari lived almist 300 years after prophets time. yes its true he get rid of thousends and thousends of hadiith because he could not sure if they were fake or not. only that shows you the problems of the hadiiths. if bukhaari iska tuuray kumayaal axadiith ah of course axaadiithyadiii u soo hartayna qaar been abuur ah waa ku jiri karaan.


contradiction is if quran says 100 LASHES for punishtent of adultry, and if you come up whit KILL THEM then is pure and 1000% contradiction.

people who support STONING they go to far even they claime there were forgetten STONING VERSE which omar bin khadaab heard??

they even claime QURAN IS NOT COMPELETE. acuudu bilaahi. thats big big DANBI. allah never forgetted a verse. quran is 114 surah and 6666 verses. there is no forgetten verses. there is no STONING VERSES.

QURAN IS 100% compelete.

Yalaxow are you by any chance a Quranic Muslim and you reject the hadiths you do know the hadith imam hutuking and Fah are referring to is a Saxiix Xadiith authentic not daciif First of all Quran is the Kalimatulahil Culya its not From Prophet Muhammad its from the All mighty but in islam we follow the teachings of Prophet Muhammad he taught us they way we should practice Islam ,do you want to reject what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him used to do ?

iam not quran only musims. i Regocnice all hadiiths which does not contradict THE QURAN, but i tottaly reject axadiiths which contradicts what ALLAH SAID IN THE QURAN.

there is nooo STONING IN THE QURAN.

STONING was stolen from christian bible. we are NOT christians therefore we dont need to fellow stoning whichs inside christians bible. our quran there is no stoning.

[Advo]

Yalaxow hates Islam (he also calls it wahabi).

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Yalaxoow, its a historical fact that a pregnant woman begged the prophet pbuh to relieve her from sin( zina) by stoning her.
Iam surprised to notice that you are rejecting hadiths when in quran it says: whoever obeys the messenger pbuh has indeed Obeyed Allah. And : whatever the messenger gives you take, whatever he ?

your rejecting the quran, the word of allah. suuratul nuur and suuratul niisaa allah said adultries should get 100 lashes. that women who had been stoned you dont know if she was stoned before THOSE quranic verses suuratul noor and NIZAA was revealed. no one knows that.

as i said its like BEFORE qamriga la mamnuucay, SAHAABAS use pray while they were DRUNK. laakiin aayadii mamnuuca qamriga sahaabadiii waa ay joojiyeen cabista qamriga,

RASUULKA SCW AYAAA NAAG dhagax ku dilay maxaad ka og tahay inay aheeyd BEFORE verses in suuratul NUUUR WAS REVEALED FROM ALLAH?

sidoo kale AXADIITH CAN BE FABRICATED. but QURAN CAN NOT. so which one will take take QURAN OR AXADIITH IN THE FIRST HAND?

OF COURSE FOR ME WORD OF ALLAH IS NUMBER 1. and axadiith is number 2

if quran say to me something i willo take qurans order. because axadiith can be false.

[Estarix]

There are actually an increasing and large number Muslims rejecting the Hadith on the basis that it is fabricated or created by the wrong people, they call themselves quranists or something like that; they basically only follow the quran.
I cant say yalaxow is a follower of these groups of Muslims and would say he reached these views and on his own independent thoughts but its clear that he refuses to see the deen for what it really is and wants to construct his own personal Islam that he's satisfied with.
Its also the signs of the times look it up.

[Saraxnow]

Stoning reflects the ugliness of the crime.i.e. married person having illegal sex. Its very rare for it be carried out because of the difficulty of finding 4 witnesses who have seen the actual act itself. Its practically impossible, but then again you have some groups who act on their whims instead and act haphazardly without thinking.


It is better for the person to repent instead of confessing it before others.


And it was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Avoid these sins that Allaah has forbidden, but whoever does any of them, let him conceal himself with the concealment of Allaah and repent to Allaah, for whoever tells us of what he has done, we will carry out (the punishment prescribed in) the Book of Allaah on him [and we do not desire that].”
It was also narrated by al-Haakim in al-Mustadrak ‘ala al-Saheehayn (4/425) and by al-Bayhaqi (8/330); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 149

[Executive]

Yalaxow

Using your logic, you can reject verses of the Quran on the same basis you are rejecting sahiih hadith.