Is it time the forum dealt with religious extremism?

[Voltage]

Lately the forum has shown a remarkable feat of trying to provide a legitimate platform to contribute to legitimate discussions of whatever creed. In matters where the forum believed a perversion was going on, the moderating crew took action for the benefit of all and clamped down. The forum took action against extremist atheism which had the habit of degrading our faith and prophet. The forum also took action against tribal extremism and now we see tribal discussions and and the likes are almost extinguished from our general discussions. Just today, I posted my first political topic here in a long time and it was swiftly removed. Even though my topic was not tribalistic or tribal laden it had the possibility of leading into a tribal discussion and so I accepted the judgement of the moderator who removed it. Also, the forum recently took action against extreme racism and made it apparent it will not condone racist rhetoric of the nature that makes us regressive and backward. I think it is time the forum similarly takes action against religious extremism that has been allowed to fester here leading to a space where people take the right of judgement of God unto themselves, killers and murderers are praised, and Islam is given the worst possible representation.

I hereby put forward an appeal to the forum moderators and administration to take decisive action against religious extremism amongst us just as they had done towards racists, tribalists, and those that attempted to insult our religion and prophet.

[Murax]

The mods are not gonna ban anyone because they don't want to decrease traffic on snet and thus possibly lose their 'mod jobs'


Kinda pathetic if You ask Me. Imagine being in the same thread with one of these crazies and end up in some serious trouble for it.

[Meru]

[Voltage]

I don't really think Nabeela cares about traffic or lack of traffic. She has shown a remarkable desire to want to "fix" the system. Nothing is more traffic bringing to this site than tribal discussions and that certainly didn't stop her and her moderators from clamping down.

[Murax]

Btw you know what bothers me with these pricks is why don't they go out and live what they talk about on the net 24/7? These flowers wanna talk xaar all day on a keyboard and then eat their mommy's welfare checks. So despicable.

[Coeus]

Religious extremism is a serious issue on the internet as a whole. I do not know why the Moderators have not taken the necessary steps that is needed to neutralise these potential dangerous users.

[Grant]

This could get interesting. How are you going to define what is extreme?

[accident]

This could get interesting. How are you going to define what is extreme?

Anyone who endorses terrorist groups and believes suicide bombing is acceptable.

[melo]

There is no consensus on what religious extremism actually entails. People on this forum believe that Istishaad even under restricted conditions is extremism, whilst this has been a source of discussion and debate amongst mainstream Islamic scholars in the Muslim world. I think if you are going to make a religious statement of serious implication, you should back up your statement. What should not be allowed however, is the propagation of beliefs that are clearly outlawed in Islamic law. That is

1- The targeting of non combatants
2- Attacking non combatants of enemy states

Issues that aren't black and white should be discussed. If i believe X person is a murtad and discuss why, i shouldn't be muzzled but debated.

[grandpakhalif]

BY Allah if you ban me, I will find a better forum with people who are of similar mindset. It serves me well.

[934]

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

BY Allah if you ban me, I will blow myself up, take a dozen threads with me and become shaheed. It serves me well.

Fixed.

[Voltage]

This could get interesting. How are you going to define what is extreme?

No one is a religious scholar here and no one is in an official capacity as state judge that would interpret the Sharia. As a result, I would define religious extremism as anyonewho condones outward nature of terrorism, anyone who makes takfiir, anyone who attempts to solicit political support for terrorist groups, and anyone whom the majority of participants deem as having "extreme" religious views (blv me we know one when we see one).

You can always tell who is an extremist because they size down the collective sum of the faith to political matters. There are many respectable religious people on this board, that are faithful, pious, and we respect. People like Nobleman, Hyperactive, Amat-Allah, Perfect_Order, Executive, myself, etc. However, the most loud mouths are always the one who bring down the total sum of the faith to "murtad", "al shabaab/al qaeda",etc. There is no faith, there is no study of iimaan, history, law, literally every other facet of existence Islam touches on.

[Alphanumeric]

This could get interesting. How are you going to define what is extreme?

No one is a religious scholar here and no one is in an official capacity as state judge that would interpret the Sharia. As a result, I would define religious extremism as anyonewho condones outward nature of terrorism, anyone who makes takfiir, anyone who attempts to solicit political support for terrorist groups, and anyone whom the majority of participants deem as having "extreme" religious views (blv me we know one when we see one).

You can always tell who is an extremist because they size down the collective sum of the faith to political matters. There are many respectable religious people on this board, that are faithful, pious, and we respect. People like Nobleman, Hyperactive, Amat-Allah, Perfect_Order, Executive, myself, etc. However, the most loud mouths are always the one who bring down the total sum of the faith to "murtad", "al shabaab/al qaeda",etc. There is no faith, there is no study of iimaan, history, law, literally every other facet of existence Islam touches on.

The terms hilited are themselves subjective, and used to define a term that is also subjective in understanding.

My view of extremism is of both violence/harshness, and excessive leniency and disregard for Shari'ah. Why is extremism viewed only in the perspective of violence? Is the outright abandonment of the Shari'ah not a form of extremism? What of those who openly mock the religion of Islam? What of takfir? How would you rule over someone who claim a Muslim will burn in hell for eternity and/or wish that the devil ram his ass? Because, imho, that falls under takfir. Now, if it is takfir, half the forumers will be banned, by your own rules.

[Voltage]

^^All Ill say is Cajiib


Strange behind the scenes dealings

It was the straw for the administrators when "Allahu Akbar" was written in the Mogadishu suicide bombing;

So far I only saw Grandpa saying "allahu Akbar" his confused ass shouldn't be tolerated.

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