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They Left my father's whole unug of 12 Soldiers Inside Somali Galbeed when they announced War Over before they gathered all the Soldiers who were on patrol. I am still looking for whoever was leading the war at that time. My Father's battalion had to walk on hiding every night for months before they reached Somali Soil. Unfortunately, No one even noticed that they left soldiers behind. How can you not notice 12 young soldiers who were on patrol and just leave. I am taking whoever is incharge of the milatary now who is general dhuumaal.

My father is still loyal to his superiors and don't hold grudges. My Mother had to wore asaay for 2 months then aabe and his friends just re-appeared.

caburiye1 wrote:They Left my father's whole unug of 12 Soldiers Inside Somali Galbeed when they announced War Over before they gathered all the Soldiers who were on patrol. I am still looking for whoever was leading the war at that time. My Father's battalion had to walk on hiding every night for months before they reached Somali Soil. Unfortunately, No one even noticed that they left soldiers behind. How can you not notice 12 young soldiers who were on patrol and just leave. I am taking whoever is incharge of the milatary now who is general dhuumaal.

My father is still loyal to his superiors and don't hold grudges. My Mother had to wore asaay for 2 months then aabe and his friends just re-appeared.

what is that?

go to PL military court they will help you on this

Beesha iidoor calaacal badana wah wah

XimanJaale wrote: Beesha iidoor calaacal badana wah wah

War am not like those guys. My father is a loyal Somali Milatary officer. He has been in the Milatary in all his Prime age ( 17-45). I am just mad because they left him on the Wilderness. Plus am not after one milatary officer anaka. I would suing the Somali Milatary as an organization. Whoever is incharge or whoever he appoints need to come to court. Plus the court would be in Somalia not the west like those calaacal people suing cali Samatar personality.

Brother Caburiye
These guys who replied your question are either too naive or indifferent your concern. I have my own misfortune about that war; i lost many family members in that strugle which i believe it was right thing to do to free Somali-Galbeed.

0n late march 1978 at Jigjiga Ali Samatar was at the front line and many neglected Somali fighters were deserting from frontline. Ali Samatar Ciro and Galal wanted to send a strong messege to the army so they ordered to court marshal some of the soldier who left their units.

Somehow, someone had a hidden agent and ordered every commander to send half dozen his best fighters in order to boost the moral of the army, as the heroes came to Jigjiga to be decoreted with ranks and medals of honor which they fought so hard they were sarounded by Somali military police units and gun downed, military police commander was told by his superiors he was to massacre Ethiopian POWS which itself was against international law.

Among 80 victims of that massacre were my mother's young brother and my father's young brother......i always wanted to be held responsible whoever was behind that massacre, After the war when my grandma came to Mogadishu to find out whatever happened to her young son when she found out the truth...... she dead from nothing else but anger and disappoinment.

But this guy Dhuumaal was herding goats a place called Mataa arba so dont waste your time with him that is what i would imagine about about dhuumaal.

abdirisak22 wrote:Brother Caburiye
These guys who replied your question are either too naive or indifferent your concern. I have my own misfortune about that war; i lost many family members in that strugle which i believe it was right thing to do to free Somali-Galbeed.

0n late march 1978 at Jigjiga Ali Samatar was at the front line and many neglected Somali fighters were deserting from frontline. Ali Samatar Ciro and Galal wanted to send a strong messege to the army so they ordered to court marshal some of the soldier who left their units.

Somehow, someone had a hidden agent and ordered every commander to send half dozen his best fighters in order to boost the moral of the army, as the heroes came to Jigjiga to be decoreted with ranks and medals of honor which they fought so hard they were sarounded by Somali military police units and gun downed, military police commander was told by his superiors he was to massacre Ethiopian POWS which itself was against international law.

Among 80 victims of that massacre were my mother's young brother and my father's young brother......i always wanted to be held responsible whoever was behind that massacre, After the war when my grandma came to Mogadishu to find out whatever happened to her young son when she found out the truth...... she dead from nothing else but anger and disappoinment.

But this guy Dhuumaal was herding goats a place called Mataa arba so dont waste your time with him that is what i would imagine about about dhuumaal.

Abdirisak,
Thank you brother. I really mean to hate personally on dhumaal but because I am taking the Milatary to Court, Someone in their ranks should answer my question. Why would they shoot their own soldiers to serve as an example to others. My father told me every Somali wanted to fight even children. People were already united for the Fight. My case would unearth a lot of truth. I might need relatives of the victims to compile more cases to make the case strong. I know Galaal and Samatar are still alive. They need to tell us what exactly went down.

there were 5 or more survivors of that massacre General Samatar and col Galaal were at Jigjiga at that moment.
But one ironic accident that made me to cry was there was one rer Bari commander who sent his own brother and inlow to give them quick promation among doomed heroes.

Lots officers said Ciro was the one who twisted the order of General Samatar so when the spirit of the nation breaks he would have a good chance to overthrow Jaale Siyaad which Ciro tried but failed and cost him his life.
But Galaal was also the one who massacred 1700 innocent civilians in Gaalkacyo in 1991 and General AY made him his right hand man who said the Somali alliance is not priceless

abdirisak22 wrote:there were 5 or more survivors of that massacre General Samatar and col Galaal were at Jigjiga at that moment.
But one ironic accident that made me to cry was there was one rer Bari commander who sent his own brother and inlow to give them quick promation among doomed heroes.

Inaa Lilaah wa Inaa Ilaah raajicuun. Little did he know that, he was sending them to their graves.

Guys, these are two different issues;

Abdirizak, it is true that many officers/soldiers were court marshalled and shot in Jigjiga by Galal. They were shot because they broke the code of military conduct. We could debate for ages if this was a good move but the bottom line is that all military procedures were followed. Some of them were charged with being cowards, abandoning their positions, endangering the lives of others and not obeying orders.

I know that that does not justify the lose of a loved but put their killings with the military/political context and you might find the answer. The fact that some of the firing squad members belonged to the same region/clan (as you stated above) shows that there was no element of tribalism. It was purely the code of military conduct which was applied.

Alla ha u naxristo.

Cabuuriye1; your story is different. If the men were left behind and sacrificied when the somali army was withdrawing that defies any logic. General Dumaal (I guess he was a captain then) and his superiors were certainly responsible. It is great to hear that your dad survived.

XimanJaale wrote: Beesha iidoor calaacal badana wah wah

Xarjaale,
caburiye is not an isaaq but another homeless dooro and remember Dooro xaarka wey wad cuntaaye aftirshigay isku dhaantaa

bro Lamagoodle i differ:

Certainly, there were many other cases where soldiers were court marshalled for cowardness but those 80 soldiers that was massacred at Jigjiga was sinister plot to disarm the Somali fighters and whoever was behind succeeded his objective.

Again, please dont dishonour those men, at least if you dont know the truth about their dead, you might want to research the fact instead of making unfounded and imaginary statement which again hurts their families and spirit of Somali nationalism.

abdirisak22 wrote:bro Lamagoodle i differ:

Certainly, there were many other cases where soldiers were court marshalled for cowardness but those 80 soldiers that was massacred at Jigjiga was sinister plot to disarm the Somali fighters and whoever was behind succeeded his objective.

Again, please dont dishonour those men, at least if you dont know the truth about their dead research the fact instead of making unfounded and imaginary statement.

Abdirizak, I am not dishonouring those men.

Could you please share with us what the sinister objective was?

So, are you trying to connect the Jigjiga incident with what happened to your dad? The jigjiga incident is known to many somalis. You could say whatever you want, but it was not a question of tribalism/regionalism etc. It was pure military logic.

Lamagoodle
First of all i did not say my father was among dead, secondly i did not say it was about qabiil. you gotta be reading someone else's post and finally there is no military or civilian logic that says sellect your best men and massacre them. please, there is no point to continue this converse with you.

Thank you

abdirisak22 wrote:Lamagoodle
First of all i did not said my father was among dead, secondly i did not say it was about qabiil. you gotta be reading someone else's post and finally there is no military or civilian logic that says sellect your best men and massacre them. please, there is no point to continue this converse with you.

Thank you

My apologies; I meant your uncles.

So, help me understand why you think the "best men" were massacred? I was relaying what I was told.

I am not defending Galal, Xasan Abshir and Abdi warsame who were the commanding officers when the said incident took place; I am just reminding you of the context.