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The End of the Europe and America

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I don't believe that anyone who is honest with themselves can believe that America and Western Europe will return to their former Economic status and health. It will be a continued decline and stagnation dispersed with small amounts of growth. What I mean is that for the unskilled and low skilled labor worker they are a dying bread, now that we live in the world of small companies making huge profits. The only thing the west has over developing countries such as China, Brazil,India, the three largest players outside of Europe and America, is their Education and Technology. Yet, this won't save them from a disenfranchised and unemployed majority of non educated unskilled workers. When firm of 200- 3000 can generate billions of dollars of revenue, what will be left to trickle down?
The east and the southern western Hemisphere are the up and coming countries where there is money to be made, all you need to do is understand their needs and provide them with the technology. Especially computer and software technology is what is needed, as they become more and more advanced, and the opportunities are endless.
Africa is perfectly positioned to reap the benefits, if only it would get it's act together. It has the resources and the potential to grow and develop it's own markets. And Somalia is strategically located to be a major player, where it has the coastline, and the diaspora who can connect and develop to be involved in every major company that is in Africa.

Europe and America are like the old who are slow to move even if their mind is the most experience and quick. Africa is the kid who has the potential but just was unlucky, and China India Brazil are the young in their 20's ready to take over the world.
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Re: The End of the Europe and America

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Europe perhaps but I woudln't count the U.S out just yet. That is my initial reaction without having read your writing above.

Having read our commentary now, I agree with you.
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Re: The End of the Europe and America

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America is too big for it's own good, it will continue to have economic woes despite growth of "gdp" because brain companies will be reaping wealth from other countries, but that doesn't give the average joe a job, with this it will lead to more political chaos as no one party will hold on for very long because the american people will keep changing heads to see if it will make a difference, and then it will lead to more and more social upheaval with a great depression on the loom. It's finished man. It either needs to destroy itself to rebuild itself again, that is the only hope for America.
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Yep. We are in the middle of a shift in economic power from West to East.

Like you said Africa is in position to to come up as well. Africa has human capital and a high birth rate while the west has an ageing pop and a low birth rate (which is why they tolerate immigration). Africa is like a virgin ....undeveloped markets and lots of resources while europe is a mature market or an old hag lol.

However the west is brilliant at hustling. Through the presence of their multinationals and expertise it is always an unfair fight. What is the point of having untapped mines if RioTinto simply comes in and gobbles it up? An African country may, for example, have a growing middle class but it will be Walmart (South Africa) or Carrefour (Morocco) which reapes their disposable income. Since it is our time to reign, shouldn't we have companies from emerging markets dominating?

African countries are not managed well. The IMF effs them over by making loans subject to liberalisation of markets.

As for Somalia, I read somewhere that nearly half the population is under the age of 18. Add to this a huge diaspora with an increased technical know-how, lots of resources and small population and the potential is huge.

Ulterior for president?
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The reason the west will have turmoil is because money will be more and more concentrated, and these guys will use these companies will invest in developing markets, I feel sorry for the American uneducated and low class. They get the shortest end of the stick.
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If God wants them to end .. then it shall be

we will all end
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^helwAa laamber 2 :lol:
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thats horrible to say
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:lol: ur horrible
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If Somalia was a poper country today, we could have been part of the "rise of the east". But alas, we are still squabbling over patches dirt and shanty-towns we call "cities". :x
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Perfect_Order wrote:I don't believe that anyone who is honest with themselves can believe that America and Western Europe will return to their former Economic status and health. It will be a continued decline and stagnation dispersed with small amounts of growth. What I mean is that for the unskilled and low skilled labor worker they are a dying bread, now that we live in the world of small companies making huge profits. The only thing the west has over developing countries such as China, Brazil,India, the three largest players outside of Europe and America, is their Education and Technology. Yet, this won't save them from a disenfranchised and unemployed majority of non educated unskilled workers. When firm of 200- 3000 can generate billions of dollars of revenue, what will be left to trickle down?
The east and the southern western Hemisphere are the up and coming countries where there is money to be made, all you need to do is understand their needs and provide them with the technology. Especially computer and software technology is what is needed, as they become more and more advanced, and the opportunities are endless.
Africa is perfectly positioned to reap the benefits, if only it would get it's act together. It has the resources and the potential to grow and develop it's own markets. And Somalia is strategically located to be a major player, where it has the coastline, and the diaspora who can connect and develop to be involved in every major company that is in Africa.

Europe and America are like the old who are slow to move even if their mind is the most experience and quick. Africa is the kid who has the potential but just was unlucky, and China India Brazil are the young in their 20's ready to take over the world.
I've noticed that as well. If you look at where in the world we are located, you'll find that along with the Arabian peninsula we are in the middle of the world Longitudinal-wise. If you look at it Latitudinal-wise we are at the centre of the world (Near the equator). So essentially we are at the centre of the centre of the world. The Red-sea/Indian ocean route is one of the busiest if not busiest transport route in the world. And instead of taking advantage of our unique position we are killing eachother over pointless sh!t and getting gangraped by xabashis and fufus. ♫Soomaliya Seexooy...♫:down:
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Re: The End of the Europe and America

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abdi.ismail wrote:If Somalia was a poper country today, we could have been part of the "rise of the east". But alas, we are still squabbling over patches dirt and shanty-towns we call "cities". :x
Its sad when u see ur ppk doing this in somalia, but u realize they can't conceptualize anything better they did grow up in "aqal somali" and hearded animals. But when you daispora with same mentality it leaves you scratching your head.
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UlteriorMotive wrote:Yep. We are in the middle of a shift in economic power from West to East.

Like you said Africa is in position to to come up as well. Africa has human capital and a high birth rate while the west has an ageing pop and a low birth rate (which is why they tolerate immigration). Africa is like a virgin ....undeveloped markets and lots of resources while europe is a mature market or an old hag lol.

However the west is brilliant at hustling. Through the presence of their multinationals and expertise it is always an unfair fight. What is the point of having untapped mines if RioTinto simply comes in and gobbles it up? An African country may, for example, have a growing middle class but it will be Walmart (South Africa) or Carrefour (Morocco) which reapes their disposable income. Since it is our time to reign, shouldn't we have companies from emerging markets dominating?

African countries are not managed well. The IMF effs them over by making loans subject to liberalisation of markets.

As for Somalia, I read somewhere that nearly half the population is under the age of 18. Add to this a huge diaspora with an increased technical know-how, lots of resources and small population and the potential is huge.

Ulterior for president?
My thoughts exactly. :up:


That's why I'm against the idea of having foreign companies operating in our country. Instead of having walmart, have a group of domestic grocery stores, instead of Burger-king, have homegrown restaurants that don't sell junk-food etc. I am also highly in favour of having a huge secondary economic sector as oppose to the High capital intensive Primary sector and the wealth-consuming Tertiary sector. The reason the east-asians are rising is because of Labour-intensive sectors that employ lots of people and actually produce goods. Instead of the gulf-arab model of exploiting natural resources and doing little else except occassionally establishing a shakey, unpredictable service sector e.g. Property/real estate.
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Re: The End of the Europe and America

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Europe is done and finish with, an overused prostitute that nobody wants a part of, America is barely surviving, and depending on its ass.
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Re: The End of the Europe and America

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New stats for Spain released. 46% youth unemployment. 21.5 percent overall unemployment. Don't tell me they pay welfare to all these people :shock: thats where the bloody defecit is coming from. Lending more to pay debts without growth and such great unemployment is just a downward spiral :shock:

No wonder the spanish, irish and greeks have invaded the U.K :shock: but the free movement of the e.u will inherently just going to spead the unemployment and eat at the growth of other countries.
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