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I was searching Hiil Qaran on google

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and i came across this article :lol:
March 03, 2011 - QOL - Salaamulaahi Calaykum dhamaan Umada Somaliyeed ee Xalaasha ah.

Waxaan idaacada VOA Somali ka dhagaystay, Xisbi cusub oo lagaga dhawaaqay dalka Uk. Xisbigaas oo loo bixiyey Hiil Qaran. Xisbigaas oo ay ku dhawaaqeen, laba nin oo kala ah Abdirisaaq Haaji Hussein & Abdi Ismail Samatar.

Hadaba waxaan rabaa in aan wax yar ka iraahdo arinta xisbigaas sida ay aniga iigu muuqato ama ay ila tahayba.

Waxaan wax yar ka oranayaa Abdirizaq Haaji hussien's

Mr. Hussein Wuxuu ahaan jiray raisal wasaarihii Somaliya ee uu magacaabay Alle ha u naxariistee Madaxwene Adam Abdulle Osman.

In Abdirizaq raisal wasaare loo magacaabo xaq uma lahayn balse waxaa xaq u lahaa Gobolka waqooyi galbeed ee Hargaysa Capitalka u tahay Qof ka yimaada. Taasina waxay ahayd heshiis ay wada galeen labada gobol ee waqooyi & Konfurta Somaliya. Waxaana ka mid ahaa waxyaalihii ay ku heshiiyeen, in konfrurna ay Madaxwenaha qaadato, Waqooyina uu Raisalwasaaraha ka yimaado.

Balse nasiib daro kadeed la kadeeday ama lagu dhibay, Madaxwenihii waagaasi jiray ee, Adam Abdulle's darteed ayaa ku kaliftay in uu bal iska magacaabo Abdirizaq.

Hadaba Magacaabistii Abdirizaq maxay faaido ah oo u keentay Ummada Somaliyeed?

Waxay u keentay Dhib, Musuq maasaq, Qabiilaysi Xoogan, Boob Hantida Umada Somaliyeed ka dhaxaysay oo si aan xaq ahayn loogu adeegto lagu tagrifalo. Taas oo sababtay xitaa Dorashadii Madaxweynenimada ee 1968dii in la Musuqmaasiqo. Sidaasna loo sheegay Ummada Somaliyeed in lagaga badiyey Madaxweyne Adam Abdulle Osman.

Hadaba Somaliyeey Abdirizaq waa ninkaas mar na soo maray ee aan waxyaabahaasi aan ka xasuusano mudadii dowladiisa.

Abdi Ismail Samatar's.

Mr. Samatar's Waa Wiil ama Oday Somaliyeed. Waxaa uu ka soo jeedaa, gobolka waqooyi Galbeed oo hada qaatay magaca Somaliland.

Somaliland dadka dagaa waa dad badan oo ka kooban inta ay Qabailada Somaliyeed ka koobantahay hal Qabiilba ha u tiro badnaade.

Qowmiyadaasi Gobolka Waqooyi dhib farabadan oo kaga yimid xaga koonfurta awigeed ayaa waxay Go,aansadeen in ay ka goostaan Koonfurta Somalia, oo ay noqdaan Dowlad gaar ah, kana tashadaan ayahooda nololeed & dhismaha dadkooda & dalkoodaba.

Arinta Goosashada waxay ka mid ahyd heshiiskii ay la galeen konfurta 1950. 1960kii 26kii June waxaa Magaalada Hargaysa laga taagay calankii Somalia.

Hadaba Ummada Xadaaradaas leh ee uu ka soo jeedo Mr. Samatar's hadii uu nin wanaagsanyahay maxaa uu u mucaaradayaa dadkiisa wixii ay doorteen 95/100?

Shacabku badankiisa waxa ay doortaan ayaa ah oo in la raaco ay tahay.

Marka horta Mr. Samatar's ha adeeco oo ha raaco Rabitaanka Ummada Somaliland.

Sideen xisbi uu madax ka yahay Ummada Koonfureed u aamini kartaa, nin kaligiis diidan wax ay Shacabkiisa Somaliland doorteen?

Waxaan leeyahay, walaal orod oo adeec Rabitaanka Shacabkii aad ka timid & Mandaqadii aad ka timid.

Mr. Samatar's muxuu kaga duwanaandoonaa Dictaytarada kale ee hadeer dhibayo Ummadahooda? Sababta oo ah hadeer ayuuba mucaaradaa Ummadiisa Somaliland rabitaankooda. Hadhowna hadii uu xisbigiisu xoogaysto soow diidi maayo rabitaankayaga?

Waxaase iga su'aal ah:

Maxaa qaylada xisbigan loo bixiyey Hiil Qaran ku soo beegay, ka dib markii kursiga Raisal wasaaranimada laga tuuray ninka ka yimid Gobolka Puntland?

Maxaase, Abdi Ismail horayba waa u aamusnaye ma waxaa ku dhaqaajiyey markii Daahir Riyaale laga adkaaday ee uu Siilaanyo Madaxwene ay Ummadiisa u doorteen ayaad diidantahay?

Horta Somaliland iska soo dhis oo soo dhis oo adeec rabitaankooda walaal markaas noo imaw.
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it will not be a difficult job to deal with an individual or few of them that think this way, but it will be a disaster if we had to deal with large number of ppl that have similar way of thinking!
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Everything he said makes perfect sense walaahi.
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I support Hiil Qaran.

Any sane somali should support such a party because it transgresses the boundaries that has defined our society during the past decades.

It takes awhile for somalis to accept anyone/party that defies the primitive logic of tribalism.
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Lamgoodle wrote:I support Hiil Qaran.

Any sane somali should support such a party because it transgresses the boundaries that has defined our society during the past decades.

It takes awhile for somalis to accept anyone/party that defies the primitive logic of tribalism.


How do you feel about the convergence of african politics to fascilitate a single african government?

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Etu Cirwaaq (Brutus),
I never knew you are a voice of soundbites! Isn't the quran big business? Isn't our faith used and abused by people who want to use it for their own business? Every warlord, every shababist, every somali uses it to support a stance. It has unfortunately evolved into the bogeyman for murderers, rapists and everyone.

I am a panafricanist and would like to see a democratic and economic vibrant continent. But, I don't support the geopolitics of dictators who want to subdue and ride on ethnic waves
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Re: I was searching Hiil Qaran on google

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hahahaaaaaaa@any sane Somali should support Hiil Qaran.

What has Hiil Qaran done for Somalia since its inception to win the sane Somalis' support?

Let me know when the Samatar bros stop feeding the press in Minneapolis and instead they touch down at Aden Adde International.
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Hiilqaran is a good party but not cut for Somalia since hiil qaran is against federalism Both Galmudug and Puntland will never except a central government that runs their affairs
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TheblueNwhite wrote:hahahaaaaaaa@any sane Somali should support Hiil Qaran.

What has Hiil Qaran done for Somalia since its inception to win the sane Somalis' support?

Let me know when the Samatar bros stop feeding the press in Minneapolis and instead they touch down at Aden Adde International.

Could you please outline what your objection is?

Are you implying that they cannot go to Xamar? why?
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If you are attempting to solving a problem the best effective approach and strategy is to go to the source of the problem no?

Sitting in America and drinking whiskey while yapping away to the press is not an effective strategy to solving Somalia's woes.
Ask not what Somalia can do for you...
Dodge a bullet daily first before you can tell us how we should wipe our asses after bowel elimination. You get my drift.
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TheblueNwhite wrote:If you are attempting to solving a problem the best effective approach and strategy is to go to the source of the problem no?

Sitting in America and drinking whiskey while yapping away to the press is not an effective strategy to solving Somalia's woes.
Ask not what Somalia can do for you...
Dodge a bullet daily first before you can tell us how we should wipe our asses after bowel elimination. You get my drift.

OK: what is the source of the problem according to you? I think, Samatar has identified the problems and has a strategy.

You have a point that somalia's problems lie in Somalia; but, isn't it the case the diaspora should also voice their concerns, wishes and hopes? In my opinion there is a symbiotic relationship between somalia and the somali diaspora.


Let us keep their lifestyles out of this if we are to engage into a discussion.
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Re: I was searching Hiil Qaran on google

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I was avoiding own opinion.

- On A.Samatar
- On [HQ]

I hope they avoid scoring cheap points off the back of ~TFG's failures. Instead focus of promoting their own unique solution to problem solving.
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Cirwaaq wrote:I was avoiding own opinion.

- On A.Samatar
- On [HQ]

I hope they avoid scoring cheap points off the back of ~TFG's failures. Instead focus of promoting their own unique solution to problem solving.

Cirwaaq,
Come on for heaven's sake! Blindly supporting something is what has brought us this chaos. We need people to question, to have difering views, to oppose issues in somali(a) is to move forward. We need people to question taken for granted ideas/ideas and political dogma. We need to diagonise the disease based on the symptoms.
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America has a strategy for Somalia too, how is Samatar's one different?
He can't relate to the average Somalis back home yet he wants to implement solutions on their behalf?. To him the Somalis are "savages" and no one should give 2 cents about South Somalia (YT videos) and funnily enough in the same breath he wants to become a president of the "savages".

Lets be honest, prof hebel and dr hebel that are sitting pretty in the qurbaha should leave Somalia's affairs alone, in my view they're no different from EU, US, n UN representatives for Somalia.

All in all, lets chat when these niggas come to hell hole that is Somalia. Real talk.
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Bro, I think you are making wrong conjectures. True again that prof hebel or dr hebel will not bring peace. But, we need to explore approaches (however bad they maybe) because out there is a solution.

In my opinion every somali has a right to propose a solution. Hiil qaran's suggestions are good. We shouldn't discard something because it goes against our own opinions/beliefs etc.



I read this piece from hiil qaran
http://www.hiilqaran.org/Hiilqaran-invasionII.pdf
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