Al-Shabaab will not be Defeated

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

I hate to break this news to some of you but that's the truth. Militarily you can turn Shabaab to ash, and that won't defeat them. These ikhwans will return another day to fill another vacuum. The question since day f-king one has been - can anti-Shabaabists in the south present an alternative besides anarchy? And the answer is NO. Not because I say so but because it is true.

Already in Xamar warlords have come back from as far as rural Minnesota to set up isbaaro. Rape is rampant again and food aid is once again deployed as a weapon today, as it was years ago by warlord Gacmadheere from Cadaado. Already people in Xamar are arming themselves against random TFG militias.

The question again is - can the south offer a simple, humane alternative to whatever Islamic rulers you are running from?

That is the reality.

[galia]

I hate to break this news to some of you but that's the truth. Militarily you can turn Shabaab to ash, and that won't defeat them. These ikhwans will return another day to fill another vacuum. The question since day f-king one has been - can anti-Shabaabists in the south present an alternative besides anarchy? And the answer is NO. Not because I say so but because it is true.

Already in Xamar warlords have come back from as far as rural Minnesota to set up isbaaro. Rape is rampant again and food aid is once again deployed as a weapon today, as it was years ago by warlord Gacmadheere from Cadaado. Already people in Xamar are arming themselves against random TFG militias.

The question again is - can the south offer a simple, humane alternative to whatever Islamic rulers you are running from?

That is the reality.

That's no true in the sense that Warlords are returning to Mogadishu. Lastly please allow giving the evil eye to Mogadishu, bismilla

[AbdiWahab252]

They will slaughtered once a righteous man is leading the AntiShabab force. One who will lop off their heads with no mercy and is willing to end up being a shaheed if need be.

Until then, the Al Qacida will run around while a baffled Usurper looks on as his bastard spawn generated from his one night stand with Usama.

[arabmtu]

Militarily you can turn Shabaab to ash, and that won't defeat them. These ikhwans will return another day to fill another vacuum.

True. In 2006, a number of forces (US, Ethiopia) tried to squash the armed wing of the ICU. But the armed wing survived and transformed into a force to reckon with. Today, more forces (US, France, AU, Kenya, Ethiopia, etc) are trying to crush al-Shabaab. If al-Shabaab survives (indications point to that), it will emerge even more powerful and consolidate more lands (this time the entire Mogadishu, and possibly P-Land and S-Land).

[Shirib]

Al Shabaab will be defeated the day we find an alternative solution, problem is we don't have one

[The_Emperior5]

Al Shabaab will be defeated the day we find an alternative solution, problem is we don't have one

yes we have galia said Kenya Ethiopia burundi uganda is the best Alternative Solution

[union]

I have no problem staying at perpetual war with the Islamists. It will just increase the hatred the people have for them.

[AbdiWahab252]

UNION,

Nah, we need to have a Shabab bake sale and bake them in containers like Sheik Dostum of Afghanistan did to the Taliban.

[union]

[AbdiWahab252]

Union,

We need to be as brutal as them. No catch n release programs.


We got a golden opportunity now that they are on the run. A snitching hotline should be set up for the general public to dial 06-NAB-A-GARDHEERE

[Jaidi]

Taliban is more popular than Dostum in Afghanistan. The moment ISAF pulls out the Taliban will retake the country. Afghan Army has the highest rate of defections in the world. Further underlines the point of this thread. You need a relevant, functioning alternative to win a war decisively.

[AbdiWahab252]

Jaidi,

Qeybdiid-Hiiraale 2012 will be the start of the end of Shabab. These two men will pursue them into the next world.

[Jaidi]

Jaidi,

Qeybdiid-Hiiraale 2012 will be the start of the end of Shabab. These two men will pursue them into the next world.

Will they be election running mates? Who is the President and who is the VP?

[AbdiWahab252]

Jaidi,

It is being worked out. The Ahlu Sade Wal Jameeca and the Sa'ad Majlis will make duas for the two.

[Jaidi]

Jaidi,

It is being worked out. The Ahlu Sade Wal Jameeca and the Sa'ad Majlis will make duas for the two.

It should be branded as the Freedom and Justice Party