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Soon The African Union will own Somalia god help us

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Putting Somalia into an AU Trusteeship is the Only Option

After the defeat of Al-Shabaab, the African Union should take responsibility for Somalia, argues Robert Rotberg.

Burundi peacekeeping troops preparing to enter Mogadishu. Picture by Rick Scavetta.
When the heavy rains let up, Kenyan soldiers will be able to continue their advance on Kismayo, Ethiopian troops will take Baidoa, and Ugandan and Burundian peacekeepers may be able to completely clear Somalia’s capital Mogadishu of al-Shabaab militants. Al-Shabaab rebels have been in control of large swathes of southern Somalia but reports from the field suggest that the Islamist group’s draconian strictures on women, schools, music, and international relief efforts have already ended whatever popular following it once had. Nor is its self-proclaimed alliance with al-Qaeda likely to afford the group continued legitimacy or an enduring role in the volatile south of the country.

Al-Shabaab’s days as a sustainable and robust fighting force are rapidly coming to an end. The losses of Kismayo, Baidoa, Mogadishu and other southern towns will prove financially costly since al-Shabaab’s revenue stream derives substantially from fees, duties, and taxes on trafficked consumer imports and agricultural exports through those towns. The loss of its strategic centres and, conceivably, the fertile Juba River valley, will therefore cripple al-Shabaab as a movement and an ideologically cohesive Islamist enterprise. Its soldiers, after all, have to be paid, and al-Shabaab cannot battle on without costly ammunition and weapons.

What will and should follow al-Shabaab?
If and when al-Shabaab goes the way of its hapless ancestor, the Union of Islamic Courts, the Transitional Federal Government (TFG), Somalia’s weak nominal authority, could theoretically replace al-Shabaab rule from Mogadishu to the Kenyan border.

Propped up by the United States and African Union, the TFG has lurched from crisis to crisis over the last seven years. (And its mandate has nominally expired earlier this year.) Within Somalia, the TFG is regarded primarily as a corrupt holding operation beholden to outsiders and one incapable of providing the kinds of new active visionary leadership Somalia desperately needs. The TFG has taken few initiatives to raise the quality of life for the people of Mogadishu and the cabal that runs the organisation is suspected of skimming cash from donors and relief agencies. It has little legitimacy or following. And without the threat of al-Shabaab, neither Somalis nor outsiders will have compelling reasons to continue to back President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed’s TFG.

What will and should replace the TFG?
One possibility is that the Kenyans and the Ethiopians could establish buffer zones along their respective borders and in them create long-term mini-states (along the lines of Israel previously in southern Lebanon). But that outcome is unlikely since the Kenyans are already stretched by their intervention into Somalia and ordinary Somalis fear, and are historically antagonistic to, Ethiopians. The Burundian and Ugandan peacekeepers of Amisom could gradually move south from Mogadishu, especially next year when they are joined by small contingents from Sierra Leone and Djibouti. But given Amisom’s limited mandate and the reluctance of both Uganda and Burundi to become military overlords of Somalia, such a scenario is also unlikely.

If the defeat of al-Shabaab and the removal of the fundamentalist Islamic yoke from Somalia is ultimately to improve the lives of ordinary Somalis, Africa - supported by the West - cannot rely on business as usual. Somalis, because of their own clan enmities and fratricidal distrust, have for much too long been relegated to the political margin. They have been visited by repeated drought and famine, denied opportunities for educational advance and medical availability, and been cast out from the global village.

Now is the opportune moment to break the cycle of internal war and troubled peace. Southern Somalia (Somaliland in the north functions relatively well) and its mostly impoverished people require security, central governance, basic services, and – over time – opportunities to allow their undoubted entrepreneurial skills to prosper. But there is little likelihood this will come about under the TFG and amid warlords, al-Shabaab remnants and pirates.

International trusteeship
If the African Union, backed financially by the West and with oversight from the United Nations, placed Somalia in trust for a decade it might finally be able to end the influence of pernicious internal non-state actors and help Somalis learn to rule themselves once more as a nation.

An African-run trusteeship would be able to rebuild essential functions and arteries of commerce, restore educational and health services over time, and eventually provide Somalis with a working government dedicated to them and their interests as citizens.

Undertaking such a task would of course be immensely difficult. Somali politicians and warlords might lose many of their current perquisites and would object loudly even if some complementary role were found for the TFG. But Somalis in the south, in contrast to Somaliland, have been unable to re-construct their own state and to uplift their own people.

Africa needs to assume responsibility for Somalia and to delegate the task of trusteeship to its more advanced and better governed states. South Africa, Botswana, Mauritius, Ghana, Mali, and even Zambia know how to build nations. Someone like former president Thabo Mbeki of South Africa or former president Festus Mogae of Botswana would make ideal viceroys. Under their oversight, and with their appointees controlling Somalia’s budget and finances, a trusteeship arrangement could be the making of Somalia and of enormous immediate and long-term benefit to every Somali.

What, after all, is the alternative? More bloodshed, renewed famine, stunted lives, and opportunities denied? Every Somali deserves better.
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It is for the best. Somalis cannot run their own country, let the fufus do it. :up:
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Fuck that bantus can never rule over a proud Somali

Somalis will never bow down for a Bantu not in a thousand years
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Aren't they ruling over Somalia already? :lol: Bantus can run a country, Somalis can't. So it is for the best. :lol:
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khalid ali wrote:Fuck that bantus can never rule over a proud Somali

Somalis will never bow down for a Bantu not in a thousand years
Sheekh Dalxiis, ma ku tidhaadid? Sow kii yidhi Ciidankani AMISOM ee Burundi iyo Uganda ka yimi wa ciidaan aynu waalalo nahay.. Ceebta :roll:
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Somalis don't know how to run a COUNTRY. So yeah, the Bantus will do it cause they have a track record of having some stable countries or emerging from civil war and building something..
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FAH1223 wrote:Somalis don't know how to run a COUNTRY. So yeah, the Bantus will do it cause they have a track record of having some stable countries or emerging from civil war and building something..
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Let them tame the Animals.
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FAH1223 wrote:Somalis don't know how to run a COUNTRY. So yeah, the Bantus will do it cause they have a track record of having some stable countries or emerging from civil war and building something..
Speak for yourself, some Somalis know what it takes to tame the unruly Somalis 8-)

On the other hand, there are those annoying war crimes and other unsavory aspects of ruling these people but I think the end will justify the means in the long run.

An iron-fisted dictatorship seems to be the lesser evil.
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Based wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:Somalis don't know how to run a COUNTRY. So yeah, the Bantus will do it cause they have a track record of having some stable countries or emerging from civil war and building something..
Speak for yourself, some Somalis know what it takes to tame the unruly Somalis 8-)

On the other hand, there are those annoying war crimes and other unsavory aspects of ruling these people but I think the end will justify the means in the long run.

An iron-fisted dictatorship seems to be the lesser evil.
We all know how that ended. What was that about learning from history? :lol:

Somalis have big mouths, all they know is talk and gloat but when push comes to shove, they can't account for shit. The Bantu they hate can run a country while the Somalis can't. The irony. :lol:
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I don't think he went far enough. The dude was soft wallahi. I would've just shot everybody who opposed me, straight up.

If we knew then what we know now, I think we would've done whatever it took to avoid the scenario we find ourselves in today.

I'd rather be North Korea than today's Somalia :?
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Based wrote:I don't think he went far enough. The dude was soft wallahi. I would've just shot everybody who opposed me, straight up.

If we knew then what we know now, I think we would've done whatever it took to avoid the scenario we find ourselves in today.

I'd rather be North Korea than today's Somalia :?
That would not last forever and the consequences would be worse than it is today.

I think he should have played the enemy clans against each other more. He should have not attacked Ethiopia but rather heavily arm and fund ONLF and other groups. He should have set up powerful organisations such as the Stasi of East Germany. Either that or complete war against every enemy clan. Make everyone a laangaab.

PS; Somalis is better than North Korea. :lol:
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I think the 77 war was the single greatest mistake of the kacaan regime. Instead of openly invading a neighboring country in the name of Somali irredentism, he should have kept up the support to the WSLF, deny all claims of Somali forces aiding rebel groups, increased the amount of SNA regulars fighting for the WSLF, claimed the WSLF was just an Ethiopian rebel group fighting on behalf of Somali-Ethiopians, and waited for the Ethiopian civil war to play out. The Somali invasion proved to be a catalyst for the entrenchment of the Derg regime, and apparently united the Ethiopians by giving them a common enemy imo.

If we would've just waited for the Ethios to tear themselves apart during their revolution while backing up the WSLF and Somali-Abos as indigenous Ethiopian rebel movements, instead of openly declaring our intentions and turning the world (especially the Communist bloc) against us, we would've avoided much of the problems that came post-Ogaden war.

No loss=no rebel groups, no loss of Soviet support, no civil war :?

btw, I don't think there's anything even remotely comparable to Somalia in the world today. North Korea is a nuclear power that can't be fucked with, and we're suffering from famine :lol:
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accident wrote:It is for the best. Somalis cannot run their own country, let the fufus do it. :up:
somalis run

somaliland
puntland
djibouti
somalia (before 1991)

its just hutus who only know how to loot and kill people :down: and have destroyed to capital city mogadishu. that cant rule.

bantus rule over hutus :up:
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Nomand wrote:
accident wrote:It is for the best. Somalis cannot run their own country, let the fufus do it. :up:
somalis run

somaliland
puntland
djibouti
somalia (before 1991)

its just hutus who only know how to loot and kill people :down: and have destroyed to capital city mogadishu. that cant rule.

bantus rule over hutus :up:
This is exactly why Somalis should never be allowed to run their country. Nomad here is putting down one clan and advocating for said clan to be enslaved by Bantus. Thank you for proving my point.


Based; I totally agree with that. It was the single biggest mistake the Somali government made. By the way, North Korea, despite being a nuclear power who can't be "fucked with", also suffers from poverty and wide spread hunger. Military power =/= everything. You seem to make that mistake all the time. A great military power does not equal a great country.
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