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ADEN, Yemen — For two decades, Somalis fleeing their failed state found in Yemen a safe haven, a place to work, and a gateway to wealthier gulf states.
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Now, Yemen, itself facing state failure, is far from the ideal refuge. But driven by famine and war in their own country, Somalis in greater numbers than ever are making the perilous journey across the Arabian Sea to this crumbling nation. They brave overcrowded boats, sometimes stormy seas, and smugglers ready to cast them overboard to lighten a listing craft.

Many of the thousands who arrive here each month have no knowledge of Yemen’s dismal state, not the long months of uprising and economic decay, the urban warfare that has killed dozens of civilians in major cities, or the Islamic militants’ seizure of large parts of the southeast.

Knowing, however, probably would not have dissuaded most.

“I just heard that they want to expel the president, and Yemen is trying for a revolution,” said Zahra Ibrahim, 29, who left her three children with her parents in Mogadishu, Somalia’s capital, paying smugglers $120 to get her to Yemen to look for work.

“It’s better than Somalia, even if it’s a war,” she said.

Many of the refugees end up here in a slum known as Basateen, living in makeshift homes and finding what little work they can. Some live in a refugee camp in the middle of the desert 80 miles west of Aden. Many want to move on to Saudi Arabia or other oil-rich states, but cannot find the means to do so or are turned around at the border.

Aid groups count more than 200,000 Somalis residing in Yemen now, but with most of their foreign staff members evacuated, their help is limited.

The future offers gradations of bleak. Yemenis are not hiring housekeepers or car washers, the usual Somali employments.

On a recent day, a crowd of stick-thin young men gathered in front of a Basateen restaurant known for providing free lunch to new Somali arrivals. Honking horns and shouting vendors turned the dusty central market around them into a commotion of midday activity. A short walk away, Somali women who recently arrived sat atop thin mattresses strewn across the floor of a large shed, a shelter for the slum’s most vulnerable.

“There is no life in Mogadishu,” said Miriam Musa, a pregnant 22-year-old with three young children clinging to her side. She said her husband was still in Somalia.

Sheik Abdul Qader Hussein, a Somali community organizer in Basateen, said that what the new arrivals were fleeing was worse than in the past, and that what they now faced was also worse.

“All of the new people, they don’t have money, or family here,” he said. “They go three days without eating a thing.”

A 15-year-old Somali who traveled here alone, Ali Ibrahim, was struggling to find a way forward. “My mother gave me the money to be smuggled,” he said. “She wanted me to go to Saudi Arabia and find work. I am only 10 days here, but I see it’s not good. I see the people here are worried about war.”

Those brought by smugglers the 200 or more miles from Somalia to Yemen’s southeastern shore wait for days for a local nongovernmental group to take them to Aden. The trip now takes 12 hours instead of 4, and is frequently postponed. They must detour around the coastline route and the city of Zinjibar, which was taken over by Islamic militants, but clashes break out along the alternate route, too.

Male refugees are often too impatient to wait. They take off on foot, walking more than 100 dusty miles across Abyan Province. The journey can take up to a week, and the dangers extend beyond the militants who control parts of the route. The heat is searing; bandits may rob the refugees of what little money they carry — perhaps just $20.

On Yemen’s western coast, Somalis, along with some Ethiopians and Eritreans, take a shorter, costlier route from Djibouti. But other traffickers have begun preying on those migrants, aid organizations say, forcing them into cars after they land, raping women and demanding ransoms.

Now and then, a Somali decides he has had enough.

Hamza Abdu, 19 and a tailor, fled the central Yemeni city of Taiz, where government shelling falls on civilian neighborhoods.

“There is much war in Taiz,” said Mr. Abdu, who came here years ago, when he was just a boy. “I will go back to Somalia. I came down to Aden to make the arrangements for my trip back. My work totally stopped here, why should I stay in Yemen?”

But for those like Ali Ashoor, 21, there is no going back. “There is no Mogadishu anymore; it is finished,” he said. “May God save us from the war here.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/world ... middleeast
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Waxa loo qaatey in ey dhinaca waqoyiga iska degan intey Yemen aadi lahaayeen. Yemen noolal maa taalo, Yemeniinta naftigooda baa xaar dhex fidhiyo.

North Somalia baa dhaanto Yemen.
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The majority of somalis use Yemen as a route to Saudi Arabia.
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My Ethiopian friend also told me there are tons of Ethiopians who use Yemen as a route to Saudi Arabia as well. Must be a Horner thing.
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Much harder to get to the Gulf these days as the article notes. Getting stuck between your migration destinations is often the norm, and the worst possible situation. This is without considering the 100s that die enroute.
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What about the smugglers who own the boats?. Often these kill the people they are carrying on their boats and throw them overboard. Once there was this story of one woman whose baby was flung out into the sea. These men should be identified, and I think should be sentenced to life as risking their lives like this is tantamount to attempted murder :|
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Saraxnow wrote:What about the smugglers who own the boats?. Often these kill the people they are carrying on their boats and throw them overboard. Once there was this story of one woman whose baby was flung out into the sea, others are thrown overboard all after taking the fee. These men should be identified, and I think should be sentenced to life as risking their lives like this is tantamount to attempted murder :|
If there is a market, then there are always entrepreneurs who will exploit it. The culprit is poverty and lack of a future. That is what should be tackled.
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Saraxnow wrote:What about the smugglers who own the boats?. Often these kill the people they are carrying on their boats and throw them overboard. Once there was this story of one woman whose baby was flung out into the sea, others are thrown overboard all after taking the fee. These men should be identified, and I think should be sentenced to life as risking their lives like this is tantamount to attempted murder :|
As long as there is a huge demand for people to flee, smugglers will exist, even if you execute them.
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Yes of course the solution has to be a holistic approach, but at least it should be a type of deterrence and to decrease the number of criminals throwing people into the sea.
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It must suck to be apart of the lower classes. :lol:
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union wrote:It must suck to be apart of the lower classes. :lol:

Which lower classes, why don't you expand on this thought? :?:
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Those who weren't able to get out in time before the fan hit and don't have any resources to fall back on. I would estimate 60% of the population in Somalia falls under this category.
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union wrote:Those who weren't able to get out in time before the fan hit and don't have any resources to fall back on. I would estimate 60% of the population in Somalia falls under this category.
So 40 percent didn't leave out of personal choice?
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Jaidi wrote:
union wrote:Those who weren't able to get out in time before the fan hit and don't have any resources to fall back on. I would estimate 60% of the population in Somalia falls under this category.
So 40 percent didn't leave out of personal choice?

20% were able to leave the country and live in relative comfort abroad, and are now either either milking western welfare states or meeking out a living in other areas of the African continent. Another 20% remains in the country, dependent on the remittances sent back by the ones abroad, and then you have the large 60% majority who constitute the "poor, downtrodden, and forgotten" class that bare the blunt of the civil wars horror- these are the ones who generally make the ill fated passages towards Yemen out of desperation, as those with families abroad are given assistance in emigrating to "the civilized world" either through sham marriages or other fraudulent methods. :|
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union wrote:
Jaidi wrote:
union wrote:Those who weren't able to get out in time before the fan hit and don't have any resources to fall back on. I would estimate 60% of the population in Somalia falls under this category.
So 40 percent didn't leave out of personal choice?

20% were able to leave the country and live in relative comfort abroad, and are now either either milking western welfare states or meeking out a living in other areas of the African continent. Another 20% remains in the country, dependent on the remittances sent back by the ones abroad, and then you have the large 60% majority who constitute the "poor, downtrodden, and forgotten" class that bare the blunt of the civil wars horror- these are the ones who generally make the ill fated passages towards Yemen out of desperation, as those with families abroad are given assistance in emigrating to "the civilized world" either through sham marriages or other fraudulent methods. :|
Sounds accurate. But the logic of the 20 percent is a bit delusional don't you think? They believe the status quo is fine and sustainable when in reality its a burning wreck. Even where there is stability a country ,who's primary source of revenue is handouts, surely can't be considered a desirable one :|
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