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Greetings Mujaahids!

A Garre mujaahid claims carrying the Somali gene ...
In his polemical text he is implying that those non somali gene carrying Garres can only be adopted ones ...

I there any somali gene?
Or is it a freshly somalized Bantu building confidence?

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Response to those who have reservations about the origin of Gharri people

First of all, I would like you all to understand that history did not create people. People create history. So, the Gharri history as it has been told generations ago was told by our forefathers and carried on by way of oral tradition. So, those who dislike the Gharri origin as it is known, then, as a person, you can convert to those whose history appeals to you the most and be parts of it.

It doesn’t matter how much you like or dislike your neighbors, they are still your neighbors. The facts remain the same, unless you move out of that neighborhood.

Furthermore, you should just look back and reassess the history of the Oromo people in Ethiopia and the Somali people of Ethiopia. Some of us used to be called “shiritham Somali” meaning skirted Somali. The Oromo people were also called “Galla,” and thousands of books were written about them. Today, those two words, Galla and Shiritham Somali are nothing more than like a distanced cousin that you never know he exists. It is considered to be derogatory words that no one dares to say. Somalis are called Somalis and the Oromos are called Oromo. Therefore, it doesn’t matter who we associate with and who our neighbors are. We are who we are and most importantly, we carry the names and traits of our forefathers.

In fact, I just had a DNA test done to determine my own genealogical background. The result showed that although I born in Ethiopia, I do not match or share any genealogical trait with Ethiopians, but I do match, people with Somali origin.

Why is that? It is because, our history is right, and that the Gharri people are Somalians. Guys do not confuse with a tribal names that people use to differentiate themselves from other area tribal people. Garre in Somali are known as Garre, so, the Abgal, Abar Gidir, Ogaden, Marehan and so on. But, they all are Somalians. Therefore, if a Gharri person say, a person next to them is not a Gharri person and he or she doesn’t know which Somali tribe a person belongs to, and then says that person is Somali, it doesn’t mean that the Gharri are not Somalians.

However, history shows that throughout the years many smaller tribes and individuals become absorbed by larger and more powerful tribes. Also, some people have not only converted to Islam but, also, converted to local tribesman who assisted them to convert. So, I understand that if great-grandchildren of those convertees are disputing their Somalihood, let be it. Otherwise, to claim that the Gharri people are anything but, Somali is absurd.

Therefore, I suggest to those of you that may be have linkage with those converted people of different or doubtful origin, take a DNA test and then call yourself or associate with whomever you matched with. But, the Gharri people are Somali and Gharri people will never call themselves anything else regardless of what country they may live in.

By Abba Warrana December 13, 2011
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bareento. i dont know if somali gene exist but what i know is Garre or as oromos called Garri are actually Soomalis. Garre are part of Somali tribes therefore they are Somaalis.
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bareento wrote:Is there any somali gene?
Yes. Eb1b1b1 (E-M35) and its downstream derivatives E-M78 (including almost all of its clusters).

Little background:

E-M35 (M stands for the particular mutation) originated in Horn of Africa around 20,000 ya with Somalis carrying highest rates of this mutation. Then E-M35 population migrated northward to Egypt/Sudan and after sometime there underwent further mutation to E-M78. This mutation embarked on epic journey that saw it traverse huge swathes of land from North Africa to the Levant to Southern Europe leaving behind its gentic footprint in those regions to this very day. Some 5000-3000 years ago E-M78 group migrated back to the Horn spawning modern ethnic groups like Afar, Oromo, Somali, Rendille, etc.
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Ask chinaman All I know is the somalis cluster with each other , that's what chinaman told me . :lol:
I don't think there is a somali gene though , I coud be wrong .
This guy's account could be right , I have no reason to believe otherwise .
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:bareento. i dont know if somali gene exist but what i know is Garre or as oromos called Garri are actually Soomalis. Garre are part of Somali tribes therefore they are Somaalis.
in the NFD of kenya, Ogadens refer to Garre as Somalis, the only place i have ever met them is i the NFD, who pisssed this guy off and told him he is not somali?
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Garre are not only Somali's but are from the Hawiye Clan
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Thank u all Mujaahids :up:

My question was not t whether Garre was somali or not...but rather the way the guy is making up his case ... going as far as genetics!
If I am right Garres live with Straight Somalis and Boranas....these two groups ie Boranas and Straight Somalis are known to carry the same paternal gene at 85%

My point is if a Garre is pissed off and wants to prove his somaliness genetic test is not the best method ....or he gets the somali-Borana gene and that would not necessarly qualify him as somali....or he gets the Bantu/nilotic genes and :? :shock: ...

In such cases, possible way of proving his somalinness would be culture/genealogy etc....and probably change his pen name ...Abbaa Waraanaa is so oromoo :D

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Teeri wrote:
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:bareento. i dont know if somali gene exist but what i know is Garre or as oromos called Garri are actually Soomalis. Garre are part of Somali tribes therefore they are Somaalis.
in the NFD of kenya, Ogadens refer to Garre as Somalis, the only place i have ever met them is i the NFD, who pisssed this guy off and told him he is not somali?
Garre also live in Lower Shabelle and Middle Jubba regions of Somalia. A subclan of Garre also live in Chad, West Africa. The current president of Chad is Garre.

Garre also do speak a dialect of Somalia. I remember saying one day "qarqaryo" in reference to "being in cold weather," and the Garre dudes from deep Kenya understood fully and stated that is exactly how they said in Garre dialect. These are fellow Somalis, and maasha'Allaah fellow Muslims. Keep in mind Islaam is more important than the ethnicity itself!
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Technically Garre are Saabe, not Samaale, but that's nitpicking. They have been claimed by Hawiye and are sometimes considered part of Gardheere Samaale, but having studied the issue in detail they are indeed a member of the great Digil. Cumar Digil is Garre.

Have any Garre or any other Digil or Mirifle done the test? I would be curious to see the results
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Some ppl are just too emotional about this stuff. This article reminds me of some gurguras around dirre dhawaa.
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James Dahl wrote:Have any Garre or any other Digil or Mirifle done the test? I would be curious to see the results
Do Ethiopians/Eritreans have similar DNA as Somalis?
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The persident of Tchad is garre ? :lol: That explains why the formerly called SSC dhulbahante jabhad and their diaspora supporters were posting videos of Tchadian/Darfur sudanese rebels passing as dhulbahante rebels fighting Somaliland
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SahanGalbeed wrote:The persident of Tchad is garre ? :lol: That explains why the formerly called SSC dhulbahante jabhad and their diaspora supporters were posting videos of Tchadian/Darfur sudanese rebels passing as dhulbahante rebels fighting Somaliland
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaghawa_people
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No way this is true. President of Chad is Idriss Deby he is Zaghawa. They are their own people, a lot of them also live in Sudan in Darfur. They are fighting Omar Bashir there.
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Aliyyi Oromada wrote:Some ppl are just too emotional about this stuff. This article reminds me of some gurguras around dirre dhawaa.
Greetings Mujaahid Aliyyi,

Our Gurgura neighbours are so confused that one can trick them easily!
I found a new way of confusing them further 8-)
Generally their claims goes this way : "Wallaahi we are Somali, we are the eldest son of Sheekh Hebel Dir, we evn live in North Somalia" etc...
I ask them under which name Gurguras are known in Somaliland? they will try to say its Gurgura ...I insist then they admit they are known as Lo'jir!
Then I ask them , whether the Lo'jir are considered as straight Somalis ?

I tell them Lo'jir are outkasts....and I conclude Gurgura are neither Somali nor Oromo; their closest keens are outkast oromos and somalis.
then I internally thank this great forum (Somalinet) for teaching me how to properly karbaash sheegattos :ugeek:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My cousins are Garre from NFD. It's very interesting to read this thread, because I have never heard or came across anyone who disputes their Somaliness until now.
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