Why are duugsi's so unpleasant?

[union]

I remember at the tender age of six that my parents enrolled me into a somali duugsi, at the behest of my grandmother, and it was the worst experience of my life. It was a wahabi duugsi associated with the Abu Bakar Islamic Center, located in south Seattle inside a decrepit building where the lessons happened within the windowless and dimly lit inner sanctum every weekend for about six hours.

Pupils were subjected to severe beating for the slightest offenses, be it winking at a friend or failing to perfectly recite religious scripture in an alien semitic language. The teachers used to gloat about which could be the most cruel in their punishments, with "macalin bes bas" being the unopposed champion. Their weapons of choice were usually either electric cables brought from their homes or long tree sticks collected by their 'teachers pets' from nearby trees.There were other types of punishments as well, including forcing pupils to contort their bodies in painful positions for long periods of time. Far from being mortified by the abuse of their offspring inside this so called "school", the parents were delighted at the good ol' fashion brutality and encouraged the teachers to be even more vicious and unwavering in their beatings. Only a small minority , like my parents, had the good sense to pull their children out before real damage was done.


My question is this: why is such sadistic behavior by somali duugsi teachers against small defense children tolerated?

Children do not learn better by being subjected to unregulated violence, and indeed the affects of such abuse stay with them long after they leave duugsi. I believe we are seeing the affects now, such as in Minneapolis, where young American men of Somali descendant are leaving in large numbers to join radical insurgent organizations. It is likely that they attended duugsi classes as young children, where they were exposed to a culture in which violence against other human beings was tolerated. Now they are adults and they lack the natural human abhorrence towards violence, and Somali society is paying for it.

Violence in duugsi's must end immediately. It's a loathsome practice with grim consequences.

That is all.

[SultanOrder]

Must be talking about the one that was on MLK that is now a construction company's office, and the big cinder blocks are next to it and big metal bars in it.

[FAH1223]

I remember at the tender age of six that my parents enrolled me into a somali duugsi, at the behest of my grandmother, and it was the worst experience of my life. It was a wahabi duugsi associated with the Abu Bakar Islamic Center, located in south Seattle inside a decrepit building where the lessons happened within the windowless and dimly lit inner sanctum every weekend for about six hours.

Pupils were subjected to severe beating for the slightest offenses, be it winking at a friend or failing to perfectly recite religious scripture in an alien semitic language. The teachers used to gloat about which could be the most cruel in their punishments, with "macalin bes bas" being the unopposed champion. Their weapons of choice were usually either electric cables brought from their homes or long tree sticks collected by their 'teachers pets' from nearby trees.There were other types of punishments as well, including forcing pupils to contort their bodies in painful positions for long periods of time. Far from being mortified by the abuse of their offspring inside this so called "school", the parents were delighted at the good ol' fashion brutality and encouraged the teachers to be even more vicious and unwavering in their beatings. Only a small minority , like my parents, had the good sense to pull their children out before real damage was done.


My question is this: why is such sadistic behavior by somali duugsi teachers against small defense children tolerated?

Children do not learn better by being subjected to unregulated violence, and indeed the affects of such abuse stay with them long after they leave duugsi. I believe we are seeing the affects now, such as in Minneapolis, where young American men of Somali descendant are leaving in large numbers to join radical insurgent organizations. It is likely that they attended duugsi classes as young children, where they were exposed to a culture in which violence against other human beings was tolerated. Now they are adults and they lack the natural human abhorrence towards violence, and Somali society is paying for it.

Violence in duugsi's must end immediately. It's a loathsome practice with grim consequences.

That is all.

its cause thats how our parents grew up and they all memorized most if not all the Qur'an that way

[SultanOrder]

including forcing pupils to contort their bodies in painful positions for long periods of time

union has a point that place was pretty brutal, I remember this one punishment where dhegaha la qabsanayo, while standing you had to put your arms around and through your legs and grab your ears. And this could last from 5mins to 10 to 20 to even an hour

[union]

Must be talking about the one that was on MLK that is now a construction company's office, and the big cinder blocks are next to it and big metal bars in it.

I'm talking about the one which was on rainier but was was demolished. Although the MLK one was just as loathsome, though I had the luck of never attending there. Also LOL @ the metal bars on the windows, it was indeed like a prison.

@ Fah, and look at what a wonderful society our parents left behind. They forgot about all that violence in their childhood as adults. oh wait....

[SultanOrder]

I only went to that one a few times but I didn't get beat up, I didn't even go to dugsi much honestly. Lakin why are you acting like your traumatized? Is this "my pastor molested me" version?

[yungnfresh]

My macalins' punishment of choice was standing facing the wall and holding ur outstretched arms flat up against it, and of course getting beat with the metal end of the suun.

And I'm grateful everyday for every single asswhooping I ever got cuz it made me the man I am today

[union]

I only went to that one a few times but I didn't get beat up, I didn't even go to dugsi much honestly. Lakin why are you acting like your traumatized? Is this "my pastor molested me" version?

For a young child it was a very traumatizing experience. Especially because my parents never physically punished me so it was a new experience being wiped for not having a pencil on the first f-king day!

[union]

including forcing pupils to contort their bodies in painful positions for long periods of time

union has a point that place was pretty brutal, I remember this one punishment where dhegaha la qabsanayo, while standing you had to put your arms around and through your legs and grab your ears. And this could last from 5mins to 10 to 20 to even an hour

oh yea, that was terrible.
I got assigned that one with some regularity.
i used to sneak some quick breaks while the maaclin was looking away.

i remember that some firefighters came to do an inspection of the building once and when they entered they saw like half the kids in that position. it was an awkward moment for the teachers to say the least since it caught them by surprise.

[SultanOrder]

miskiin

[union]

My macalins' punishment of choice was standing facing the wall and holding ur outstretched arms flat up against it, and of course getting beat with the metal end of the suun.

And I'm grateful everyday for every single asswhooping I ever got cuz it made me the man I am today

Poor child.
It's even worse that you glorify your abusers!

[fighter]

My macalins punishment was kicking students. Very unique punishment from the usual pencil in all 5fingers crusher, standing up against a wall, etc etc.

He would kick us but not too hard. He wuld use the side of his leg for minimum damage and pain and strike us at our legs.

But one day, he decided to do it on me after I failed to memorize some surah. Stupid me, I ran towards him to get away from him. He got shook and in an attempt to get me, he accidentally gave me an HBK sweet chin music kick on my chin. I got knocked out.

After that encounter, i dropped his ass and went to another macaalin. He wasn't bad. Dude doesn't teach anymore though due to being charged for human smuggling this month.I'm not gonna say his name but he was one of the bank street macaalins in Ottawa. Never punished me, the dude was only interested in $$$. There's a couple of south ottawa cats here and will know who I'm referring to.

But down with abusive macaalins!!!

[Rabshoole]

The only way to learn is by knowing theirs a pressure built upon for every one mispronounced syllable, I think a lot of American raised kids are lucky they haven't endured what majority Somalis who grew up back home or in Kenya did. You had to write your caashir on an alwax. Not only were you judged on how proper the writing aspect was but also waxaa kale oo laga rabaa in aad ka so baxdid caashirkadi. The stakes were high compared to the US as far as abuse goes. A macaalin is no different than your parents they all have one common goal and that is for you to succeed

[Keyblade]

every dugsi I've ever been to I was the teachers pet so I can't relate

[TheblueNwhite]

My macallin was a hustler, he used take my allowance money all the time.