Now i know why allot of somalis left scandinavia

[gurey25]

Social engineering indeed.
You are the Guinea pigs.

http://www.indiablooms.com/NriDetailsPa ... 41211b.php

Norway 'kidnap': India to assist NRI couple
India Blooms News Service

New Delhi, Dec 24 (IBNS) The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) on Saturday announced consular assistance to an NRI couple, whose children were taken away by Norwegian childcare services in May this year.

The couple from Kolkata, Anurup and Sagarika Bhattacharya, who are non resident Indian (NRI) citizens, have said that Norway’s child protection service Barnevernet took away their two-and-a-half-year-old son Abhigyan and four-month-old daughter Aishwarya on May 11.

“It is understood that two infant children of an NRI couple, Mr. and Mrs. Anurup Bhattacharya, based in Stavanger (Norway), were taken under protective care by Barnevarne (Norwegian Child Welfare Services). Barnevarne has placed them in foster parental care as per the directive of the local Norwegian court, mandated under Norwegian laws," said an official spokesperson of MEA.

"The Embassy of India in Oslo has been in contact with both the Indian couple in question and the Norwegian authorities. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Norway has been sensitized about the matter informally. The Ministry of External Affairs has also taken up the matter with the Norwegian Embassy in New Delhi. The matter is subjudice and Mr. Bhattacharya has been advised to take suitable legal recourse."

"The Ministry of External Affairs will continue to monitor the situation. The Embassy of India in Oslo has been and will continue to extend all possible consular assistance to Mr. Bhattacharya and his wife,” the spokesperson said.

Meanwhile, the Bhattyacharyas, speaking to an Indian daily, said that the authorities came up with “bizarre explanations” for taking away their children and the ordeal appeared to then like “child kidnapping in a civilised society”.

“They said the mother was incapable of taking care of the children ---- that our daughter looked at the faces of other people around her instead of her mother’s was evidence that we were not taking proper care of her, and that our son remained aloof in the kindergarten and banged his head on the floor,” the father, Anurup, told The Telegraph newspaper.

“They told me why are you sleeping with the children in the same bed. This is also a purely cultural issue. We never leave the children in another room and say goodnight to them," Anurup, who has lived in Norway for six years and married Sagarika in 2007, said.

On Nov 30, a court ruled that the two children will be placed in separate foster homes till they are 18, with their parents, who currently live in Stavangers city, being permitted to meet them only twice in a year for one hour at a time.

In 2005, the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child had expressed concern "at the number of children removed from families and put in foster homes in Norway.

It also said Norway must protect the natural family environment and send children to foster homes as a last resort in the best interests of the child.

[Saraxnow]

I heard a lot of Somali families lost their children to authorities in Europe, especially these Scandinavian countries

[DR-YALAXOOW]

its true this gaaalo which we are living in their countres can be cruel, i my self i use to work as translator tarjubaan here in sweden. walaahi i met many singel moms who lost their children to xafiiska ceeyrta nasiib xumo.
laakiin this happens not only in scandanevia it happens also UK. there many Somali families lost their children. and caruurta soomaalida eee foster care Uk lagu hayo aad ayey u baddan yihiin.

Gaaladan ilaaheey shartooda hanaga mootiyo.

[kambuli]

Uskag Fowqal Uskag Bal kelaabtaas daya! I hope these poor kids were not raped in these so called foster child care But at least Indians have a government that will represent them. Who would represent poor Somalis

[Twist]

^^ Exactly my thoughts, kambuli! At least the people who have functioning governments have someone to turn to when things get out of hand but what do we have?

When we were deserting our countries by the thousands & coming to foreign countries that share almost nothing with us, way of life/religion/language/culture-wise what were we expecting?

[Cinque Mtume]

Uskag Fowqal Uskag Bal kelaabtaas daya! I hope these poor kids were not raped in these so called foster child care But at least Indians have a government that will represent them. Who would represent poor Somalis

Are you only now realizing that in the cosmopolitan world of 2011, that of all the ethnicities that live on this globe, Somalis are at the bottom of the food chain, basically Somalis belong to the midgans of the world along with gypsies and whatever the fuck are running around on this planet with still no government, no money, no power or influence, but at the mercy of other people.

Somalis were 10000x better off during colonialism than they are now and that is a fact.

[Twist]

^^ Couldn't have put it better!

[kambuli]

Twist and Cinque,

I heard both of you Are we trying to do anything about it? Are we at least trying to preach those whom we reach, about Somalinimo and Waddanimo? If only those of us in this forum were ready to spread the word that our people/country is about to be exterminated Wallaahay I pray not to get depressed about the situation of our country..Please keep up the feelings u have for the situation of our country.

[IRONm@N]

Those Scandanavian countries are too much, government is involved too much into ppl's lives, why would you go in between a child and his parents, that is stricktly family business.
Stuff like this will never happen in America, as Americans like to keep government away from their private lives, if you abuse a child you may be arrested, but your children will never be taken.

[Rabshoole]

That's their way of attempting to get rid of foreigners from their countries.

[Alphanumeric]

Social services/CPS/whatever you want to call them... useless, pointless, offensive bunch.
They can all go to hell.

[Lamagoodle]

I have heard about these cases through "the maxaa la yiri channels". Actually, they evolve around three issues;

1) Abide by the laws. It is simple. If the law of the country stipulates that you are not allowed to abuse, beat and neglect a child, then don't do that.
2) The child is viewed as a legal person; i.e. he/she has a right to function as human being and accorded the full rights of the law. You can't claim that he/she is your child and as such can do anything.
3) Your child is not a bank transaction. You are given money (taxpayers) to be able to have a decent living and to give your child all the neccessary things.

The somali community;
a) we are not known for being law abiding
b) we view children as short term investments. Most somali families recieve welfare benefits that are tied to the number of children; these are not used on the child but is sent home, used to buy expensive homes overseas, etc
c) Child neglect is rampant; the dad and mom chew qaad; there is hardly any after school activitity for somali kids. They are confined to the mercy of TV while the parents talk politics and are involved in nonsenses.


So, ladies and gentlemen, spare us your rants and please look beyond the maxaa la yiri discourses. As a matter of fact, only a fraction of kids are removed from the care of the parents. If this is done, it is in the interest of the child.

Lamagoodle,
Children's right advocate

[haxxor]

I have heard about these cases through "the maxaa la yiri channels". Actually, they evolve around three issues;

1) Abide by the laws. It is simple. If the law of the country stipulates that you are not allowed to abuse, beat and neglect a child, then don't do that.
2) The child is viewed as a legal person; i.e. he/she has a right to function as human being and accorded the full rights of the law. You can't claim that he/she is your child and as such can do anything.
3) Your child is not a bank transaction. You are given money (taxpayers) to be able to have a decent living and to give your child all the neccessary things.

The somali community;
a) we are not known for being law abiding
b) we view children as short term investments. Most somali families recieve welfare benefits that are tied to the number of children; these are not used on the child but is sent home, used to buy expensive homes overseas, etc
c) Child neglect is rampant; the dad and mom chew qaad; there is hardly any after school activitity for somali kids. They are confined to the mercy of TV while the parents talk politics and are involved in nonsenses.


So, ladies and gentlemen, spare us your rants and please look beyond the maxaa la yiri discourses. As a matter of fact, only a fraction of kids are removed from the care of the parents. If this is done, it is in the interest of the child.

Lamagoodle,
Children's right advocate

[salool]

Lamagoodle, Afkaaga caano lagu qabay.Xaqiiqadi baad sheegtey.

Somalida victim kaadhka sidi oo ciyaaran bay yaqaanan oy calaacalan laakin runta iyo mushkilada mesha taala way iska indho tiraan.Nin gaal ihi into iska so ordow bila reason caruurtada oo qaadan maayo, wixi ku dhaca iyaga isugu wacan.

Intay hagbad uruurinayan, o aqal waashman ku raaxeysan doona lacagta ku burburinayan, inay caruurtoda ku burburiyan bey aheed.Kabahu ku dul go'goen ee jacketki ku dul jeexjeexmay.

[Lamagoodle]

Salool,
How many times do we hear "gaalada ayaa caruurta qaadatay"?. This is pure nonsense.
How many times do we hear people saying ILAAHEY WADANKII NABAD HA NOO dhigo? Areas in somali are peaceful; did you see any families packing?


Some somali families don't deserve to have kids.