The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Minds]

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The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Minds]

Post by Monk-of-Mogadishu »

Please, staff & patrons, keep an open mind and do not discriminate about the topic at hand. I'll keep this short and sweet.

I love my beautiful qabiil, I love the concept of qabiil, and I love the philosophy of qabyaalad.

Without the contribution of qabiil identity, Somalia and its culture---even its history simply f-king sucks. Take the rich heritage of qabiil out of the Somali way of life & worldview of the people and you have one of the most dull, tame, and uninspiring cultures in the world. Think about it, take the qabiil factor out and would you even have curiosity for whatever "Somali culture" that remains? Look at this forum itself - I came here due to a thirst for community among my clan and to learn as well as express to my kin the virtues and heritage of our qabiil. I'm not alone. Before he got soft, former regular poster Sadaam-Mariixmaan came to this forum at the age of 13 for the sole purpose of being in an environment where qabyaalad openly flourishes. And before poster Voltage lost his sanity, he too came to this forum in his teens with the sole aim of propping up the image of his otherwise-obscure clan, and now that he's forced qabyaalad out of his life he is no longer mentally sound unfortunately. Your "sheikh" mod Shirib too came to this forum to exact revenge for his troubled clan and to prop up their image [before he registered, the whole forum thought D&M abstained from any forms of technology]. Those examples are a drop in the bucket when it comes to that line of scenarios. Just look at this forum, everyone under the age of 20 has developed their clan identity on this forum and took part in the beautiful tradition of qabyaalad - and those people who are still under 20 are all engaged in qabyaalad, and they have all benefited immensely and will continue to benefit immensely.

Most embarrassing of all, to those who try and silence the timeless wisdom of qabyaalad and the observance of qabiil identity, saw exactly what happened when references to clan were made "prohibited" in this section; the disappearance of relevant and rich topics. Along with directly qabiil-addressed posts, also to disappear were clan-dependent historical topics, and most important of all even the "cultural" topics that some corrupt anti-qabyaalad apes revere so much, which ironically owes its strongest attributes to the unique regional diversity which owes its existence to the various qabiils who are strongly associated and even credited directly with the unique flavor. The "anti-qabilism" lunatics thought somehow that the Generals would be a place of non-clan (and thus non-Somali) related enlightenment - what a tragic joke it became.

Back to my first point - Somali culture is gay as shit without a healthy love for the customs of qabiilaha. Again, I ask you to think about it; what remains of "Somali culture" if you eliminate the only redeemable quality in our crude shared culture. People of this forum, what IS left I ask? Listening to folklore about some black ass motherfucker trekking the desert with his grotesque camels doesn't sound appealing unless he's got a slick rifle, perhaps a dozen additional musketeers, and an encounter [good or bad] with another clan. It gets worse if you try to define Somali culture without the qabiil-inspired regional diffusion; all we'd have left collectively is nomadism which is utterly retarded, canjeero which tastes awful & has the texture of a rectum, booty shaking which is sexually arousing but devoid of integrity, and most regrettable of all would be the practice of passing off South Asian garments (men&women) as being "authentic" to our culture when people deep in baadiya still wear the all-white two-piece (men) and one-piece (women) outfits. Our history, all that we have written or oral record of, would be practically non-existent since qabyaalad has been a factor in our history since the oldest detailed oral or written accounts, and without qabiil identity it would be incredibly boring and on par with the gay history of the dull Sidamas.

That's all I wanted to get across. You are free to deny yourself the richness of qabyaalad and qabiil identity, and to enjoy your empty uncultured life - but I plan to continue seeking pleasure, enlightenment, pride, culture, meaning, and safety in the fortress that is our clan system.





Habeen Wanaagsan & Wassalaamu Calaykum to you the readers. :|
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Re: The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Mi

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Why cant you love your qabiil while respecting other or keep shut when you have nothing nice to say?
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get a job and stop wasting your time with qabil.
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greenday wrote:Why cant you love your qabiil while respecting other or keep shut when you have nothing nice to say?
How did you draw that uninformed conclusion?

I love my qabiil, and I also love all other qabiils. My post did not once mention tribal sectarianism, which is a poison to our people. I merely stated the beautiful side of clan identity that is often ignored, and the role it played in the development & survival of our people. To me, qabyaalad means love, security, connection [to your own as well as other clans], and the growth of social consciousness among ignorant souls - I'm heartbroken and a quite a bit angry that worthless social vandals have given an ill-fitting definition to the positive & tranquil reality of qabyaalad.

Free your heart from ignorance and impatience, and open your mind, you as well as our entire community will only flourish under the blessings of the qabiil. May love & truth guide your heart. :cry:
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Qabiil is the reason why Somalia is a under-developed shit hole.

I don't understand why qabiil is so important. Its hyped up by old illiterate geezers with orange beards. Its good to know where you come from but it shouldn't consume someones life.

If qabiil lives, somalia will be in the same place it is 100 years from now.

I saw this one YouTube video of Chinese news anchors crying when the Chinese earthquake occured and killed their countrymen. I saw the same thing with Japanese news anchors crying when the tsunami-earthquake killed their Japanese brethren. Their news headquarters, obviously in Beijing and Tokyo, and they r crying on live tv over their citizens killed in the other side of the country. A sight that will never be seen in Somalia. Somalis won't shed a tear for a man not part of his sub-sub clan.

Its unfortunate. Somalis r stupid individualistic punks. Every nation has surpassed them in every aspect. Countries r competing in global commerce and Somalis r dirt poor chatting the whole day about reer hebel.



Its survival of the fittest.

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Re: The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Mi

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I wasn't specifically talking about this post just in general. How about you leave aqabil at stuff like how much money is given for doonasho or what number you put on your camel :up:
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Re: The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Mi

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Sxb you have a disease that has gone out of control. Your own track record has shown you just use qabyaalad to divide the people and bring down others whilst propping yours, is this what you call for? Qabyaalad, the same 'philosophy' that has prevented people from thinking for themselves and develop a mindset that makes them narrow minded. Quite frankly, if people think like you, the future of our nation would be severely bleak. Allaha naga badbaadiyo dulmigaaga
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There is allot of good in qabiilism and allot of bad.
Some of us have taken advantage of the good and reduced the affects of the bad..

Those of you here who keep blabbing about getting rid of qabiil, will also get rid of what makes us somali..

as i said before i wish to remain a somali..

and i am still proud of my god forsaken people..

still proud to be a somali even after all thats happened.
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gurey25 wrote:There is allot of good in qabiilism and allot of bad.
Some of us have taken advantage of the good and reduced the affects of the bad..

Those of you here who keep blabbing about getting rid of qabiil, will also get rid of what makes us somali..

as i said before i wish to remain a somali..

and i am still proud of my god forsaken people..

still proud to be a somali even after all thats happened.
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gurey25 wrote:There is allot of good in qabiilism and allot of bad.
Some of us have taken advantage of the good and reduced the affects of the bad..
Those of you here who keep blabbing about getting rid of qabiil, will also get rid of what makes us somali..
as i said before i wish to remain a somali..
and i am still proud of my god forsaken people..
still proud to be a somali even after all thats happened.
Great post. You will find, not coincidentally, that those who advocate this anti-"qabilism" atmosphere are some of the most confused, depressed, and intellectually empty people on this forum, and you'll find the same in real life. Some of these sheep even make it late into adult life with this childish worldview, and all of them are pseudo-intellectuals who don't have an iota of information nor even conscious ideas on the topics they are supposed to represent - in sum, these people lack awareness of any kind & hold a very infantile worldview as well as being led by emotion rather than logic, they don't have genuine beliefs of their own, they're too dull for that. A classic case is the "Professor" Abdi Samatar who can openly criticize or condemn the various actors and misfortunes in Somalia but he doesn't offer any thoughtful solutions and his only role in respect to Somali society has been shit writings in periodical journals & opening his chimp mouth on camera. The worst quality of this crowd is that they love to preach and condemn, its quite literally a hobby & lifestyle for them, but don't have the mental capacity or genuine social concern/consciousness to implement or even propose plans of recovery and progress. Sad, sad, sad crowd.

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Abakar, no offense man but you're full of shit. :lol:

Its one thing for these innocent Myspace youths to detest the wrongly-portrayed image of qabyaalad, but your posts have been on par with the most extreme rhetoric uttered by Galia or Hutuking, the only difference is that they were joking and you were not. Let me quote you from a post you made before your vain attempt at reform - sadly it only took me 40-50 seconds to find this old gem of yours:
abakar20 wrote:kkkkk Wallahi you're a funny jareerteen SB. If you think buqland's new master Faroole AKA Futoole can walk in Xamar you must be dreaming or clowning. The last dhaboyaco who came to Xamar got a coffin courtesy of reer Wardhiigleey. :up:

If you love your ugly midget boqor Futoole you will phone him and tell him Xamar doesn't welcome him, this is not BosASSo. And you are wrong about Sheikh Shariif dhaboyaco boy he's in his own home with his clan to back him up. I don't talk about dhimasho iyo rafaad laakiin if Futoole came to Xamar thinking his in dusty tuulo Garowe you will see line of dhabo-kuus mjs crying as Mudulood boys escort them into badda hindida. :mrgreen:
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Qabil is the same as being born african and being born somali. Why be proud and arrogant over something you were born with Subhan'Allah
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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:
gurey25 wrote:There is allot of good in qabiilism and allot of bad.
Some of us have taken advantage of the good and reduced the affects of the bad..
Those of you here who keep blabbing about getting rid of qabiil, will also get rid of what makes us somali..
as i said before i wish to remain a somali..
and i am still proud of my god forsaken people..
still proud to be a somali even after all thats happened.
Great post. You will find, not coincidentally, that those who advocate this anti-"qabilism" atmosphere are some of the most confused, depressed, and intellectually empty people on this forum, and you'll find the same in real life. Some of these sheep even make it late into adult life with this childish worldview, and all of them are pseudo-intellectuals who don't have an iota of information nor even conscious ideas on the topics they are supposed to represent - in sum, these people lack awareness of any kind & hold a very infantile worldview as well as being led by emotion rather than logic, they don't have genuine beliefs of their own, they're too dull for that. A classic case is the "Professor" Abdi Samatar who can openly criticize or condemn the various actors and misfortunes in Somalia but he doesn't offer any thoughtful solutions and his only role in respect to Somali society has been shit writings in periodical journals & opening his chimp mouth on camera. The worst quality of this crowd is that they love to preach and condemn, its quite literally a hobby & lifestyle for them, but don't have the mental capacity or genuine social concern/consciousness to implement or even propose plans of recovery and progress. Sad, sad, sad crowd.

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Abakar, no offense man but you're full of shit. :lol:

Its one thing for these innocent Myspace youths to detest the wrongly-portrayed image of qabyaalad, but your posts have been on par with the most extreme rhetoric uttered by Galia or Hutuking, the only difference is that they were joking and you were not. Let me quote you from a post you made before your vain attempt at reform - sadly it only took me 40-50 seconds to find this old gem of yours:
abakar20 wrote:kkkkk Wallahi you're a funny jareerteen SB. If you think buqland's new master Faroole AKA Futoole can walk in Xamar you must be dreaming or clowning. The last dhaboyaco who came to Xamar got a coffin courtesy of reer Wardhiigleey. :up:

If you love your ugly midget boqor Futoole you will phone him and tell him Xamar doesn't welcome him, this is not BosASSo. And you are wrong about Sheikh Shariif dhaboyaco boy he's in his own home with his clan to back him up. I don't talk about dhimasho iyo rafaad laakiin if Futoole came to Xamar thinking his in dusty tuulo Garowe you will see line of dhabo-kuus mjs crying as Mudulood boys escort them into badda hindida. :mrgreen:
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Ilaahay ha ii dambi dhaafo, kuwiinaan caayey na cafis baan kaa dalbaday. Brought a tear to my eye walahi, look how disgraced i was sxb, if i said something like that then surely i was wrong. back then i got into the clan culture and i became that narrow minded person you saw there. No one is perfect walaal and i have sincerely tried hard to remove clannism from my heart. Ii soo ducee sxb
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Re: The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Mi

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I was born alone and will die alone, Qabiil did not and will not do jackshit for me. It is all about interest and awr ku kacsi. F-qabil! Yeah, when it is in my interest I will use it, just as I will pay extortion money for some random problem caused by strangers. Qabiil is a mental shackle!
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Post by XimanJaale »

Qabil is not a sin, but it will lead you to a sin. Only a wise man can use qabil to its correct manner. For instance in the history of Somalia, a man used qabil for good use whereas another man used it for a bad use, for instance Siad Barre a young man in charge of the military of Somalia did a coup, he used his kin to develop a strong state for 21 years, let it be General Cali Mataan for military help, or Dr. Gacaliye for foreign affairs related help or Dr Jama Shire for litterature, media, educational planning help and he imprisoned his kins if they showed a threat to his national intrest such as Dr Adan or Dr Laaw etc. Whereas we had a man 'Aidid' who used his kin to destroy Somalia and turn it into a failed state. Only. Wise man will use his kin for good use.

Therefore its not bad to use qabil unless you use it for bad purpose.
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