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this ciise muuse guy who honnestly good at history told me that sheekh isxaaq was iraqi shia he told at the time he arrived somali penninsula 1000 of iraqi shia islamic shcolars where leaving iraq due to civil conflicts between them and the sunni, he also told me that just few decades back espicialy in somaliland people had some shia traditions like praising and praising the daughter of our prophet mohamed pbuh faduma though its not bad or haram at all

markaa sxbayaal arinkaa ma maqasheen wuu iga yara yaabiyay xaajigu inkastoo uu yidhi ahlu bait buu ahaa

Sheikh isxaaq was not Shia Sheikh Isxaaqs great grand father Jacfar al zaki was his grandfather he rejected shiasim so the shiates called him Jacfar al kadaab so technically Sheikh isxaaq ibn Ahmed Al ridawi was not a Shiate he was ahli al bait. There were Zayidis in Seylac in the 12 13 century though but Zayidis are closer to sunis than Shitates though there are some similarties with shiates.

sxb i believe more research should be done about the shiica influence in somalia. it was known that zaidis from yemen and shiraziz from persia came to somalia in the middle ages, especially zeila and mogadishu. infact some tombs in mogadishu still have shia markings on them, and i believe the ajuran imams were overthrown cos they inherited some shia beliefs and they left the shariah.

no but Al-nasir the cabbasid khalifa was threatened by ahlulbait, and it was during his reign that shiekh isxaaq left iraq asa young man with his family to hejaz and then yemen.

al nasir was persucting ahlul bait.

Sheekh Isaaq was not an arab. Are we still peddling that bullshit after all those dna tests?

Sheikh isxaaq identity is well establishedsuch an individual his identity is not disputed Sheikh isxaaq bani Ahmed Bin Muhamamd Bin Hashim his history and life as a person and biography is well documented as for the DNA several people took the dna tests but that didn't exclude or proof anything all the genetic results that came in can be found in the so called Arabs Whether Moroccon Arabs or iraqi and Syrian Arabs.

khalid ali wrote:Sheikh isxaaq identity is well establishedsuch an individual his identity is not disputed Sheikh isxaaq bani Ahmed Bin Muhamamd Bin Hashim his history and life as a person and biography is well documented as for the DNA several people took the dna tests but that didn't exclude or proof anything all the genetic results that came in can be found in the so called Arabs Whether Moroccon Arabs or iraqi and Syrian Arabs.

No somali DNA is mainly constricted to our region .The only way so far we can only get to the bottom of this would be to
1/ Take his DNA sample in his tomb
2/ Take everybody, like every Isaaq DNA in order to determine his direct decsendants .
But I wouldn't advise anybody to do that . In my opinion we jut gotta accept our "arabized" state as we are .

He wasnt even real.

Look dooro , stop trolling everywhere , we're not interested in your opinion , so get lost motherfu,cker !

Good points Sahan adeer i agree

Saxib sheekadan DNA iyo tariikhda inaga ina haysata , carabta qudhadeeda way haysata , oo mid waliba inu dhinaciisu usoo jeediyo sheekada ayuu raba .
Something that works , qofkii raba inu sheeko aan la hubin ku badalo , waa la iska ilaaliya .
Anagu haddeynu nahay reer sheikh Isaxaaq , tarikhdayadu WORKS FOR US , and that's the bottom line .

2012 and people still believe in Sheikh Issaq and shekih Darood? and the sahangalbeed guy is infact proud that his tribe don't have any etnic connections with the somali people.

SahanGalbeed said " In my opinion we jut gotta accept our arabized state as we are "


HAHHHAHAHAHA

It's possible but not probable.Many Zayidi Shia migrated from Al-Iraq mainly to South Asia but a few went to other places such as Yemen.Also Ibn Batuta in his travels to Zeila did say the dominant Madhab of that land was Shia
Zaydis are the most moderate of the Shi'a groups and the nearest to the Sunnis in their Aqeeda

Laakiin Allahu Ta3alla A3lam

Faant wrote:2012 and people still believe in Sheikh Issaq

Sheikh Isxaaq Ibn Ahmed in modern Somalia were known as far as the 523 A.H 1127/1128 A.D, almost eight centuries ago, Mohammed Hassan Al- Basri in a short biography written some times during his return to Damascus from the horn of Africa wrote about the journey of Sheikh Isxaaq from Mukha to Zayla, in his manuscript titled ' Al-Asjad Al-Mandum Li-Taariikh Wal-Uluum' presently housed in the Al-Dahiriya historical library of Demescus, Al-Basri detailed the life of sheik Isxaaq both in Yemen/Zayla and later Mait where he eventually settled with his tow wives and children and where presently his tomb is located.

There are at least six books mentioning either sheik Isxaaq or one of his ancestors to claim all these documentation are fantasies manufactured on behalf of the Isaaq clan during the 12th century by Arab historians is far fetched non sense,

These books are

1- Al-Dur Al Muntakhab Fi Alaqab Wal-asab (12 century manuscript) by unkown author.
2-Al Casjad Al-Manduum Li-Taariikh Wal-culuum (12 century manuscript) by
- Maxamed Xasan Al-Basri , 50 pages. Location, Al-Maktaba al-Daahiriya
Suuq al Xamiidiya , Dimashq Suriya.
3- Al-Casjad Al Manduum by Sharif Axmed Maxamed Qaasim Al Gheribaani Yemen A Hashimi historian of Yemen (1910).
4- Thamrat Al-Mushtaaq Fi Manaaqib/Nasab al-Sheekh/Sayid Isxaaq by
Sharif Aydarus Sharif Ali Al-Aydarus 1947. (d 1347 H.A.)
Also the author of Bughyat Al-Amaal Fi-Taariikh Al Soomaal.Possile location
Madbacat Cabaadi Wa-Abnaauh, Yemen, San'a.
5- Adhwaa Calaa Taariikh Al-Soomaal by Shariif Maxamed Caydarus (1932-1999)
The ex-mayor of Maqudisho during the last elecion in Somalia 1968.
6-Kitaab Fatx Al-Baab Fi Al-Ansaab Wal-Alaqaab by Cabdialmacalim Ibn Yuusuf
known as 'Baabin Sayidih'.