Rumor Mill
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Rumor Mill
My sources tell me that Ethiopian Troops along with Doolow group and Saransoor militia are expected to make an advance towards Baydhabo. Attacks are supposed to come from Gedo and Bakool
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Re: Rumor Mill
I don't think this was a good idea. Thousands of people visit this site per day, and that includes Shabab members.
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Re: Rumor Mill
I think Baydhabo will be difficult to capture without a bloodbath. Imagine how the thousands of young men whose brains brains have been manipulated over the years would react? Robow, might turn an onslaught on Bay as a declaration of war on the major clans in the region.Shirib wrote:My sources tell me that Ethiopian Troops along with Doolow group and Saransoor militia are expected to make an advance towards Baydhabo. Attacks are supposed to come from Gedo and Bakool
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I think you're rightLamgoodle wrote:I think Baydhabo will be difficult to capture without a bloodbath. Imagine how the thousands of young men whose brains brains have been manipulated over the years would react? Robow, might turn an onslaught on Bay as a declaration of war on the major clans in the region.Shirib wrote:My sources tell me that Ethiopian Troops along with Doolow group and Saransoor militia are expected to make an advance towards Baydhabo. Attacks are supposed to come from Gedo and Bakool
Re: Rumor Mill
Don't think any attacks are coming from Gedo. Probably Ethiopians+Saransoor militia. Somali politics is just sad. A bunch of ragtag militias using kenya/ethiopia vs some crazy extremist group. Feel sorry for the people in the middle.
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Thats seems to be logical.Shirib wrote:My sources tell me that Ethiopian Troops along with Doolow group and Saransoor militia are expected to make an advance towards Baydhabo. Attacks are supposed to come from Gedo and Bakool
Why would Ethiopia train forces in its country and not serve its interest?
Some people are in a dillusion they are there to help them advance their clan interest.
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Are you taking the piss bruv?The_Patriot wrote:
Why would Ethiopia train forces in its country and not serve its interest?
Some people are in a dillusion they are there to help them advance their clan interest.
That's exactly what some of us were saying about OG support for Kenya. Don't be so shortsighted.
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Re: Rumor Mill
I know bruv but the thing is some folks decided to use Ethiopians so should we wait for them to use the Kenyans too against us?UlteriorMotive wrote:Are you taking the piss bruv?The_Patriot wrote:
Why would Ethiopia train forces in its country and not serve its interest?
Some people are in a dillusion they are there to help them advance their clan interest.
That's exactly what some of us were saying about OG support for Kenya. Don't be so shortsighted.
We well know their ulterior motive
So in order to make them wadaani we just refrained from supporting Dalinyarta and fighting Kenyans because we know the moment we do this then they will have the support and every excuse to do despicable acts.
By the way there is nothing Patriotic about Somalis. USC was funded by Mengistu to destroy Somalia so did SNM and SSDF.SL and PL are influenced by Xabash to the extend they Ethiopians broker a seize fire each time a war breaks between them. Reer Gedo invited the Xabashi to fight Alitixad. All the warlords in Xamar were receiving weapons and support from Meles before the ICU. Thats when C/Yusuf created the TFg in Kenya and used Ethiopians to invade Xamar. Reer Baidoa did not even lift a finger to fight Ethios during 2006 and liqour was readily available in the shops serving Xabashi.The folks in Mudug under the guise of Ahlu suna wal Jamaca were trainned by the Ethios and still get their backing. Xamar is under AMISOM. Gedo Again is under the patronship of Ethiopians however much some headless chicken hear try to brag about their superman powers.
So the question I am asking is do you expect Ogadens in Somalia to be saints?
The case in Somalia has become what Donald Rumsfel said "In order to save the city it had to be destroyed."
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I am aware of all the examples of traitorous behaviour you have listed and I agree. However, there is a difference between knowing about these acts and condoning them. Shit... you can even condone it but just don't turn around and tell people ''oh btw Ethiopians do not REALLY support you''. The same can be said about all other Somali groups but that does not mean I support any just because they are from my clan. It is one thing for old/illiterate clan leaders to think they can outsmart and ''use'' a foreign country against their Somali brothers...but it's even worse for younger Somalis who are supposedly better educated...more worldly..and more aware to blindly follow such men. Like they are blind to the fact these countries have functioning governments with clear and formulated foreign policies. They could give a monkeys about Somali clans.
Saxib we are not herd or sheep. We have our own minds. Truth be told, even if you're a clannist..supporting a foreigners in Somalis will not aid you in the long run. How feasible is it?
Saxib we are not herd or sheep. We have our own minds. Truth be told, even if you're a clannist..supporting a foreigners in Somalis will not aid you in the long run. How feasible is it?
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Ulterior motive
The thing you fail to understand is your pre concieved notion of Ethiopia hates Ogaden while they love somalis.
We have several times turned the table and if you ask SL or Pl they will testify to it.
You are a pot calling the Kettle black arent you the same person that was claimming that all the land south to Kenyan border belonged to Hawiyeh? how very somalis was your statement?
As I said earlier Ogadens are not saints but funny is the fact that you expect high standards from Ogaden while your folks would sleep with the devil and you will call this national biulidng.
You know well charity begins at home go fix your crib then come to me with clean hands and we can discuss about why Ogaden should not have done what somalis have been doing for the past 2 decades.
The thing you fail to understand is your pre concieved notion of Ethiopia hates Ogaden while they love somalis.
We have several times turned the table and if you ask SL or Pl they will testify to it.
You are a pot calling the Kettle black arent you the same person that was claimming that all the land south to Kenyan border belonged to Hawiyeh? how very somalis was your statement?
As I said earlier Ogadens are not saints but funny is the fact that you expect high standards from Ogaden while your folks would sleep with the devil and you will call this national biulidng.
You know well charity begins at home go fix your crib then come to me with clean hands and we can discuss about why Ogaden should not have done what somalis have been doing for the past 2 decades.
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What pre-conceived notion? I just said:The thing you fail to understand is your pre concieved notion of Ethiopia hates Ogaden while they love somalis
I actually believe the opposite of what you accuse me of which is why I am always against Ethiopia interfering in Somalia. I have tried to state that.these countries have functioning governments with clear and formulated foreign policies. They could give a monkeys about Somali clans.
I think you have me confused of with someone else.You are a pot calling the Kettle black arent you the same person that was claimming that all the land south to Kenyan border belonged to Hawiyeh? how very somalis was your statement?
I don't know what to say to this. Lol I have just denounced sheep mentality and you come back with ''us'' and 'them'. You think I support Sheikh Sharrif?As I said earlier Ogadens are not saints but funny is the fact that you expect high standards from Ogaden while your folks would sleep with the devil and you will call this national biulidng.
You know well charity begins at home go fix your crib then come to me with clean hands and we can discuss about why Ogaden should not have done what somalis have been doing for the past 2 decades
Lol @ go and fix your crib. Because xamar is messed up and/or under the control of foreigners I'm not allowed to have an opinion as a Somali?
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Re: Rumor Mill
Niga were you the one that once said all the land to the Kenyan border belongs to Hawiyeh bearing in mind that it was this same ideology that made Somalia a failed state?
Do you preach water and drink wine to your audience?
Do you preach water and drink wine to your audience?
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Re: Rumor Mill
Quote me please so I may address it.
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Re: Rumor Mill
go check the archieve.UlteriorMotive wrote:Quote me please so I may address it.
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Re: Rumor Mill
The_Patriot wrote:go check the archieve.UlteriorMotive wrote:Quote me please so I may address it.
Wewe ni m'shoga for trying that dirty tactic.
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