Qawiil Question

[AbdiWahab252]

So I am brushing up on my Ogadeni and understand:

Ogaden are divided into: 1. Cabdallah 2. Cabudwaq, 3. Cawliyahan 4.


So how where does Maxmud Zubeyr fit ? And Makahiil ? Does Cabdallah = Cabdille ?


Mucho Gracias,

Abdiwahab Achmed Ali
Azanian Diaspora Alliance Movement (ADAM)

[The_Patriot]

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[The_Emperior5]

Abdalle is not the same as Cabdulle reer cabulle is a Maxammd subeer subclan
Than there is reer amaaadin iyo tolomoge and bahgeri and Abuudwaq

Maxammad subeer and makahil are seperate subclans

[The_Patriot]

Abdalle is not the same as Cabdulle reer cabulle is a Maxammd subeer subclan
Than there is reer amaaadin iyo tolomoge and bahgeri and Abuudwaq

Maxammad subeer and makahil are seperate subclans

Amaadin is reer Cabdile
Abuudwaq is part of Tolomoge.

[The_Emperior5]

Is reer Amaadin a subclan of reer cabdulle never knew that?

[The_Patriot]

Ogaden
-Makahil (Maqabul)
-Miyir walaal
)Tolomoge
-Cabdale
-Reer maxamed
-Cawdaaq
)Bahale
-Bah Geri
-Bah Tanaade
--Maxamed Zubeir
---Reer Cabdile
---Reer Isaaq
---Reer Cusman
--Cawliyahan

[eliteSomali]

So I am brushing up on my Ogadeni and understand:

Ogaden are divided into: 1. Cabdallah 2. Cabudwaq, 3. Cawliyahan 4.


So how where does Maxmud Zubeyr fit ? And Makahiil ? Does Cabdallah = Cabdille ?


Mucho Gracias,

Abdiwahab Achmed Ali
Azanian Diaspora Alliance Movement (ADAM)

NO. Ogaden is two branches. Maqaabuul which is amuudan maqaabul and miyiriwalaal. Miyiri walaal is then made up talamoge and bahaal. abdalla, reer maxamed, maloonko and cabduwaaq which are all called talamoge together. The second part is baahale which are made up of cawliyahan, maxamed subeer, cali jadeed. Then the cawliyahan splits into two big branches which are called Tuur cade and jibraail. The jibrail is large and splits into waafato, afwaax, afgaab and cali and more. Then maxamed subeer splits into cabdille and isaaq and others. That's all I know. It's too complex for me.

[AbdiWahab252]

Thanks Patriot & Elite,

ADAM thanks you ! I have never understood OGs that well and didn't bother to study them as all OGs are friendlies.

Another quick question, is there a subclan called Sacad (not my Sacad) among the Ogaden ? I am told they live with the Makahiil.

[The_Patriot]

Thanks Patriot & Elite,

ADAM thanks you ! I have never understood OGs that well and didn't bother to study them as all OGs are friendlies.

Another quick question, is there a subclan called Sacad (not my Sacad) among the Ogaden ? I am told they live with the Makahiil.

yeah they are part of makahil and its the same sacad tou guys hail from.

[eliteSomali]

Ogaden
Cowlyahan
Jabraaiil
Tuurcade
Mumin Xasan
Abokor
Afwaax
Cali
Reer Qaasim
Waafato
Reer Afgaab
Reer Aadan Kheyr
Reer Xaawis
Reer SoonQaad
Abokor-Cade
Faarax Samatar Afgaab
Reer Faaxiye
Reer Nuur
Reer Xaad
Reer Caafi
Reer Caamir
Reer Iimaan
Reer Liibaan
Reer Beyr

Mohamed Subeyr
Reer Abdulle
Reer Maxaad Roob
Aadan Kheyr
Cali Wanaag
Reer Yuusuf
Khalaf Yuusuf
Reer Cali Yuusuf
Reer Caamir Yuusuf
Reer Shishoore yuusuf
Reer cali-Nasir Yuusuf
Reer Maxamed-maxamed-dudub Yuusuf
Reer khalaf-Guun Yuusuf
Guuleed Khalaf
Samatar Khalaf
Muuse-Xarbash Khalaf
Xasan-Dheere Khalaf
Ugaas Guuleed (Shirwac, Samatar, Xandu)
Ugaas-Nuur Khalaf
Faarax Nuur
Owdoon Khalaf
Faarax Booli Khalaf

Reer Amaadin
Jeeraar Amaadin
Reer Faarax jeeraar
Reer Liibaan jeeraar
Reer Kooshin jeeraar
Reer Samatar jeeraar
Caraale Amaadin
Reer Injiir Caraale

Ugaas Xirsi
Reer Ugaas Warfaa
Reer Khalaf-khalaf-cigale
Reer Siciid
Reer Ugaas Cilmi Ugaas Warfaa (bah-Gaalaad)
Όφελος Ugaas Cilmi Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Yuusuf Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Cali Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Nuur Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Magan Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Iimaan Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Maxamuud Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Cilmi Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Axmed Reer
Reer Xirsi Ugaas Cilmi
Reer Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Faarax Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Iimaan Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Shirwac Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Muxumed Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Caamir Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Axmed Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Magan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Khalaf Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Faarax Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Cali Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Iimaan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Warfaa Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Faarax Ugaas Cilmi
Όφελος Faarax Cilmi Reer
Reer Khalaf Faarax Cilmi
Reer Sharmaarke Faarax Cilmi
Reer Warfaa Faarax Cilmi
Reer Samatar Faarax Cilmi
Reer Magan Faarax Cilmi
Reer Axmed Farax Cilmi
Reer Guuleed Faarax Cilmi
Reer warfaa-Ugaas Cilmi
Reer Wacays Ugaas Cilmi
Bihina-Nuur Ugaas Cilmi
Cilmi Kooshin
Liibaan Cilmi
Reer Khalaf Ugaas Cilmi

Reer Ugaas Magan Ugaas Warfaa (bah-Gaalaad)
Reer Dalal Ugaas Magan
Reer Xirsi Dalal magan
Dalal magan Khalaf Xirsi Reer
Reer Yuusuf Xirsi Dalal magan
Reer X.Cali Xirsi Dalal Magan
Bah-Xawaadle
Reer Muxumed Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Axmed Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Nuur Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Cilmi Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Wacays Dalal Magan
Bah-Madaluug Dalal Magan
Bah-bah-ibraahiim Dalal Magan
Reer Xuseen Dalal Magan
Reer warfaa-Aaar Ugaas Magan (reer-Ugaas)
Xirsi Warfaa Magan
Reer Nuur Warfaa Magan (Nuur Cubudhiye)
Reer Muxumed Warfaa Magan
Bah-Majeerteen Warfaa Magan
Baha-Magan
Reer Wacays Magan
Reer Cigale Magan
Bah-Timacase magan
Bah-Madaluug magan
Xandule magan
Bah-Laag-Madoobe
Nuur Ugaas Warfaa
Samatar Ugaas Warfaa
Όφελος Nuur Ugaas Warfaa Reer
Xirsi-Cagdheere Nuur Ugaas Warfaa
Reer Xeyle Samatar Ugaas Warfaa

Reer Ugaas Samatar (MaalinGuur)
Xirsi-Injiriif Samatar
Faarax Samatar
Magan Samatar
Khalaf Samatar
Reer Wacays Samatar
Reer ShirwacSamatar
Samatar Guuleed
Όφελος Samatar Reer
Reer Faarax Samatar
Reer Warfaa Samatar


Ugaas-Kooshin
Nuur Kooshin
Guuleed Kooshin

Reer Isaaq
Reer Cali
Reer Diini
Reer Maxamed
Reer cali-Gaab
Reer Cambaar
Reer Afwaax
Guuleed
Reer dalal-Guuleed
Reer CagaWeyne
Reer Wacays
Reer Guuleed
Reer fiqi-Cigaal
Reer Hadi
Reer Xamdi
Haaruun
Reer Kaamil
Bah-Cusboyahan
Reer Doolaal
Reer Cismaan Madoobe
Reer Dhagood
Baha-Xasan

Talomoge
Abdalla
Maxaad cabdalle
Abdikarin cabdalle
Adan Cabdalle

Adan cabdalle
Xasan AdanAbukar adan

Abukar adan
Όφελος Qaasim Reer
Bah reer sacad abuukar
Reer qaasim Abukar
Reer Aadan gow
reer geedi
Reer Cigaal faarax
Reer Cigaal Axmed
Maxamed Aboor

Cigaal Faarax
Reer Liiban Axmed
Xirsi Adan Reer
Το Reer o'magan
Reer Kooshin)

Abudwaaq
Το Reer
Yaxya Reer
Reer haarun
Qaasin Reer
Reer da'uut
Aadan geri Reer
Reer muuse

Reer Mohamed
Reer Maxaat

Bah Geri
Reer Xamar
Reer Aadan
Reer Saleebaan
Reer Jibraahiil
Reer Ciise

Muqaabul
Miyirwalaal (Barwaaq)

Muqaabul
Reer Sacad
Makaahiil

Makaahiil
Gacanweyne
Abraahiim
Gumcadle

Gumcadle
Ismaaciil Gumcadle
Muuse Gumcadle
Reer Saleebaan
Mohamed Cismaan
Reer Fiqi Axmed
Reer Fiqi Cismaan
Reer Cabdi
Reer Haaruun

[Teeri]

Abdalle is not the same as Cabdulle reer cabulle is a Maxammd subeer subclan
Than there is reer amaaadin iyo tolomoge and bahgeri and Abuudwaq

Maxammad subeer and makahil are seperate subclans

loooooooool, you have mixed things up

[Teeri]

Ogaden
Cowlyahan
Jabraaiil
Tuurcade
Mumin Xasan
Abokor
Afwaax
Cali
Reer Qaasim
Waafato
Reer Afgaab
Reer Aadan Kheyr
Reer Xaawis
Reer SoonQaad
Abokor-Cade
Faarax Samatar Afgaab
Reer Faaxiye
Reer Nuur
Reer Xaad
Reer Caafi
Reer Caamir
Reer Iimaan
Reer Liibaan
Reer Beyr

Mohamed Subeyr
Reer Abdulle
Reer Maxaad Roob
Aadan Kheyr
Cali Wanaag
Reer Yuusuf
Khalaf Yuusuf
Reer Cali Yuusuf
Reer Caamir Yuusuf
Reer Shishoore yuusuf
Reer cali-Nasir Yuusuf
Reer Maxamed-maxamed-dudub Yuusuf
Reer khalaf-Guun Yuusuf
Guuleed Khalaf
Samatar Khalaf
Muuse-Xarbash Khalaf
Xasan-Dheere Khalaf
Ugaas Guuleed (Shirwac, Samatar, Xandu)
Ugaas-Nuur Khalaf
Faarax Nuur
Owdoon Khalaf
Faarax Booli Khalaf

Reer Amaadin
Jeeraar Amaadin
Reer Faarax jeeraar
Reer Liibaan jeeraar
Reer Kooshin jeeraar
Reer Samatar jeeraar
Caraale Amaadin
Reer Injiir Caraale

Ugaas Xirsi
Reer Ugaas Warfaa
Reer Khalaf-khalaf-cigale
Reer Siciid
Reer Ugaas Cilmi Ugaas Warfaa (bah-Gaalaad)
Όφελος Ugaas Cilmi Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Yuusuf Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Cali Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Nuur Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Magan Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Iimaan Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Maxamuud Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Cilmi Reer
Όφελος Cilmi Axmed Reer
Reer Xirsi Ugaas Cilmi
Reer Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Faarax Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Iimaan Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Shirwac Liibaan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Muxumed Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Caamir Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Axmed Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Magan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Khalaf Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Faarax Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Cali Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Iimaan Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Warfaa Xirsi Cilmi
Reer Faarax Ugaas Cilmi
Όφελος Faarax Cilmi Reer
Reer Khalaf Faarax Cilmi
Reer Sharmaarke Faarax Cilmi
Reer Warfaa Faarax Cilmi
Reer Samatar Faarax Cilmi
Reer Magan Faarax Cilmi
Reer Axmed Farax Cilmi
Reer Guuleed Faarax Cilmi
Reer warfaa-Ugaas Cilmi
Reer Wacays Ugaas Cilmi
Bihina-Nuur Ugaas Cilmi
Cilmi Kooshin
Liibaan Cilmi
Reer Khalaf Ugaas Cilmi

Reer Ugaas Magan Ugaas Warfaa (bah-Gaalaad)
Reer Dalal Ugaas Magan
Reer Xirsi Dalal magan
Dalal magan Khalaf Xirsi Reer
Reer Yuusuf Xirsi Dalal magan
Reer X.Cali Xirsi Dalal Magan
Bah-Xawaadle
Reer Muxumed Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Axmed Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Nuur Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Cilmi Xirsi Dalal Magan
Reer Wacays Dalal Magan
Bah-Madaluug Dalal Magan
Bah-bah-ibraahiim Dalal Magan
Reer Xuseen Dalal Magan
Reer warfaa-Aaar Ugaas Magan (reer-Ugaas)
Xirsi Warfaa Magan
Reer Nuur Warfaa Magan (Nuur Cubudhiye)
Reer Muxumed Warfaa Magan
Bah-Majeerteen Warfaa Magan
Baha-Magan
Reer Wacays Magan
Reer Cigale Magan
Bah-Timacase magan
Bah-Madaluug magan
Xandule magan
Bah-Laag-Madoobe
Nuur Ugaas Warfaa
Samatar Ugaas Warfaa
Όφελος Nuur Ugaas Warfaa Reer
Xirsi-Cagdheere Nuur Ugaas Warfaa
Reer Xeyle Samatar Ugaas Warfaa

Reer Ugaas Samatar (MaalinGuur)
Xirsi-Injiriif Samatar
Faarax Samatar
Magan Samatar
Khalaf Samatar
Reer Wacays Samatar
Reer ShirwacSamatar
Samatar Guuleed
Όφελος Samatar Reer
Reer Faarax Samatar
Reer Warfaa Samatar


Ugaas-Kooshin
Nuur Kooshin
Guuleed Kooshin

Reer Isaaq
Reer Cali
Reer Diini
Reer Maxamed
Reer cali-Gaab
Reer Cambaar
Reer Afwaax
Guuleed
Reer dalal-Guuleed
Reer CagaWeyne
Reer Wacays
Reer Guuleed
Reer fiqi-Cigaal
Reer Hadi
Reer Xamdi
Haaruun
Reer Kaamil
Bah-Cusboyahan
Reer Doolaal
Reer Cismaan Madoobe
Reer Dhagood
Baha-Xasan

Talomoge
Abdalla
Maxaad cabdalle
Abdikarin cabdalle
Adan Cabdalle

Adan cabdalle
Xasan AdanAbukar adan

Abukar adan
Όφελος Qaasim Reer
Bah reer sacad abuukar
Reer qaasim Abukar
Reer Aadan gow
reer geedi
Reer Cigaal faarax
Reer Cigaal Axmed
Maxamed Aboor

Cigaal Faarax
Reer Liiban Axmed
Xirsi Adan Reer
Το Reer o'magan
Reer Kooshin)

Abudwaaq
Το Reer
Yaxya Reer
Reer haarun
Qaasin Reer
Reer da'uut
Aadan geri Reer
Reer muuse

Reer Mohamed
Reer Maxaat

Bah Geri
Reer Xamar
Reer Aadan
Reer Saleebaan
Reer Jibraahiil
Reer Ciise

Muqaabul
Miyirwalaal (Barwaaq)

Muqaabul
Reer Sacad
Makaahiil

Makaahiil
Gacanweyne
Abraahiim
Gumcadle

Gumcadle
Ismaaciil Gumcadle
Muuse Gumcadle
Reer Saleebaan
Mohamed Cismaan
Reer Fiqi Axmed
Reer Fiqi Cismaan
Reer Cabdi
Reer Haaruun

mashallah, basically in short, Ogaden cagheere waa landheer. you have groups with in groups with in groups like a Russian doll. all one has to remember is:

Mohamed Zubeer: found in Ogadeniya, out of the 9 provinces, they live in 7 (the remianing2 waa bartire and abaskuule and other Ogadens.), heavily in 6. also found in Afmadow, Jilib, Jammame, Kismayo and Baadhade, Ijaara province in NFD and cities like Wajeer and Garrisa

Caylyahan: really landheer, probably and easily the sign of puntland population they live in atleast 3 provinces in Ogadeniya, also extensively the majority in Baardheere, Bay and Bakool as well as Buuale and Sakow, also in the 3 out of 4 of the NFD provinces.

Cabdalla: found in Ogadenia, maonly Gode, Kismayo and Badhade, but the traditional politicions of the NFD as they are found there extensively

Bah Garri, Mainly in Ogadenia, kismayo, buuale and sakow with their absame cousins as well as arrive in the NFD heavily with MZ since the late 70s

Maqaabul: mainly found in waarder province s they are the kings of that region, and jlib and jammame, new to the NFD, but they have had 2 MPs in Kenya so far , extremely fierce warriors

Caabduwaaq: the city of cabudwaaq named after them when they and Ugaas Gulled (MZ) shipped marehans there in the 16th century from shilabo. they came to the Jubbas but moved on to Gedo, noticed the area was like the hell of the planet then moved on to the NFD, most Mps of the NFD is them and the governors as they are the majority in the NFD. they and the cabdalla ( tolomoga) are the most educated somalis as the average one has attest a masters if not a PHD. usually found in UN offices, European posts, ambassadorships etc.

they were invited by Mohamed Zubeer in the 60s in Afmadwo and kismayo during the Ogaden -Kenyan of 1963-67 war but all returned after peace was reached. funnily enough there are hardly any remaining in the Ogaden crown jewels of Ogadenia.

they say somalis have 1200 jilibs, bit Mohamed Zubeer alone has has 1400 jilibs, let alone the other Ogaden groups.

[eliteSomali]

Yes. Just look at the xirsi khalf within Maxamed subeer. They're enormous and then we have the jibraail cawliyahan. Too much to count.