Grandpa soo gal

[union]

Will you ever start thinking for yourself horta or will you forever be repeating what sheik blah blah says as if it were holy writ?

[grandpakhalif]

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakat


My intelligence had led to me to the correct path, and never will I blindly follow a Sheikh if he contradicts the Qur'an and Sunnah.


Yes the Culuma are the inheritors of the Prophets:

Abu al-Darda’ (Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,



“Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets.” [Related byTirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasa'i, Ibn Maja, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and others] Ibn al-Mulaqqin, Zayla`i, Ibn Hajar, and others seemed it sound (hasan) or rigorously authentic (sahih)]

[XaliimoFarax]

GP group thinker.

[grandpakhalif]

Xalimo I don't understand!?

Ruling on group dhikr

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[XaliimoFarax]

I cant view video at the moment but I was not talking about dhikr.

[union]

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakat


My intelligence had led to me to the correct path, and never will I blindly follow a Sheikh if he contradicts the Qur'an and Sunnah.


Yes the Culuma are the inheritors of the Prophets:

Abu al-Darda’ (Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,



“Scholars are the inheritors of the prophets.” [Related byTirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Nasa'i, Ibn Maja, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and others] Ibn al-Mulaqqin, Zayla`i, Ibn Hajar, and others seemed it sound (hasan) or rigorously authentic (sahih)]

It's debatable whether or not the sheiks you venerate and follow like sheep honor the spirit of the qu'ran and uphold it's true meaning. I personally think they do not, but you and their other supporters do. Depending on how you read it, you can get radically different viewpoints from the qu'ran, it's a book that inspires both peaceful dervish sufi monks and international terrorists alike. What disturbs me is that not only do you follow these sheiks when it comes to their erroneous textual scholarship of religious texts, you also follow them when they outright misrepresent the facts of our existence and make absurd statements that defy all logic--for example a few weeks ago you posted a thread saying the sun revolves around the earth because some blind sheik said so. Do you not see the problem with your behavior?

[grandpakhalif]

No I don't see any problem with my behavior, Sh. Ibn Baaz's opinion has not only been accepted it is part of the aqeeda of the religion, the fundementals. No way in hell the Earth revolves around sun rather it is the opposite. You bring me farce 'scientific' evidence whilst the Sheikh brought me the statements of the Messenger of God and verses from God himself. And who better to interpret than him? Where as you "personally" believe, I don't place any value on my personal opinions when they come to clash with a scholar, I know nothing.

Now you want us muslims to conform to your mainstream false scientific notions like that. It will be rejected.

[Alphanumeric]

orbit of the sun is part of aqeedah?

[grandpakhalif]

orbit of the sun is part of aqeedah?

Yes it is.

[Saraxnow]

SubxanAllah...

[Based]

Grandpa is easily the funniest dude on snet

[grandpakhalif]

Whoever believes that Earth orbitted around the Sun has commited kufr due to disbelieving in the ayats of Allah and the authentic hadiths of the Prophet. And this is stated by Sheikh Ibn Baz (rahimahullah)

[union]

No I don't see any problem with my behavior, Sh. Ibn Baaz's opinion has not only been accepted it is part of the aqeeda of the religion, the fundementals. No way in hell the Earth revolves around sun rather it is the opposite. You bring me farce 'scientific' evidence whilst the Sheikh brought me the statements of the Messenger of God and verses from God himself. And who better to interpret than him? Where as you "personally" believe, I don't place any value on my personal opinions when they come to clash with a scholar, I know nothing.

Now you want us muslims to conform to your mainstream false scientific notions like that. It will be rejected.

Since you believe that the sun revolving around the earth is a "fundamental" part of the faith, do you also believe that anybody who accepts the widely held scientific claim that the earth revolves around the sun to be an apostate?

[grandpakhalif]

No I don't it's not my job to make takfir, nor am I a takfiri. This person is most likely ignorant, just like me as I used to believe and was brainwashed by educational institutes that the earth orbits the sun.

People like you who despite the Quranic/Sunnah evidence refuse to believe this then you are from the people of innovation and corruption.

Start from 3:45 and a Iraqi scientist explains the nature of the sun orbit

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[Kukri]

No I don't see any problem with my behavior, Sh. Ibn Baaz's opinion has not only been accepted it is part of the aqeeda of the religion, the fundementals. No way in hell the Earth revolves around sun rather it is the opposite. You bring me farce 'scientific' evidence whilst the Sheikh brought me the statements of the Messenger of God and verses from God himself. And who better to interpret than him? Where as you "personally" believe, I don't place any value on my personal opinions when they come to clash with a scholar, I know nothing.

Now you want us muslims to conform to your mainstream false scientific notions like that. It will be rejected.

Since you admit of knowing nothing and don't trust your own judgement, you are in no position to be making statement about what true and whats false.

Darwin should be as good a person to follow as any.

You are a clown sheikh/wadad