Mandera out of control (Cali Dheere VS Garre)

[XimanJaale]

Yesterday a Cali Dheere militia killed a man considered noble to his own Garre clan in downtown Mandera. Apparently today there is insecurity in Mandera. Some Garre women and youth attempted to loot some Marehan business in central Mandera whilst Buulo Marehan neighborhood is under full security of Cali Dheere militia and the Mandera citizens are angry at the Kenyan police force for allowing militia's to operate in the town. I denounce Beesha Cali Dheere for causing this problem by killing a innocent person.

Anyone spoke to Mandera or Gedo please share the updates. Thanks

[Voltage]

Haven't heard anything yet. Generally I don't get why communities and clans fight because of a criminal's wrong doing. If a Garre man commits a crime, his clan should not protect him and if a Cali-Dheere man commits a crime, his clan should not protect him. The whole problem starts when clans serve as protection and insurance for criminals. Clans should be the first to stigmatize and bring their criminals under the law rather than protect them.

[Eaglehawk]

garre should be welcomed, beesha ali daud should be more constructive and not seef la bood

[XimanJaale]

Haven't heard anything yet. Generally I don't get why communities and clans fight because of a criminal's wrong doing. If a Garre man commits a crime, his clan should not protect him and if a Cali-Dheere man commits a crime, his clan should not protect him. The whole problem starts when clans serve as protection and insurance for criminals. Clans should be the first to stigmatize and bring their criminals under the law rather than protect them.

Garre wax ka kibir badan ma jiro, they are the biggest seef la bood clan ever. I sometimes wonder if they are plain stupid or just hot-headed.

[Turbulence]

ximanjalle, the guy who was killed was actually a taxi driver and not long ago he ran this calidheere kid over with his car and a gang of garre men burned the kid alive. it was the calidheere kids relatives that killed this guy in revenge. revenge killings and protection of criminals is an ugly part of modern somali culture.

[Adali]

ximanjalle, the guy who was killed was actually a taxi driver and not long ago he ran this calidheere kid over with his car and a gang of garre men burned the kid alive. it was the calidheere kids relatives that killed this guy in revenge. revenge killings and protection of criminals is an ugly part of modern somali culture.

AUN

[XimanJaale]

ximanjalle, the guy who was killed was actually a taxi driver and not long ago he ran this calidheere kid over with his car and a gang of garre men burned the kid alive. it was the calidheere kids relatives that killed this guy in revenge. revenge killings and protection of criminals is an ugly part of modern somali culture.

oh ok i see. i thought it was the other way round. But do remember the guy killed somebody therefore he should be killed too. But its wrong for this small thing to cause big tribal fight.

same thing happened similar to this in Mooyaale between Garre and Murrule, when a Garre guy raped a Murulle girl it caused the biggest tribal clash there in Mooyaale. (you can see the deadly clashes on youtube).

[Mustafee101]

Welldone my Cali Dheere people keep pushing the Wardeey...For now on Mandhere is yours!!

[Marley1238]

Ximanjaale, ur dreaming if u think Cali dheere can fight in mandhere against garre, garre is the second most powerful clan in mandheere after murulle. Mareexan, sheik al, raxanweyn are corner tribes in mandhere, especially mareexan live under the protection of murule.

[Voltage]

My mom spoke to her brother in Beled-Xaawo the situation is dire. A Kenyan Garre soldier was killed in Mandera and Garre blamed a Marehan Cali-dheer boy. The boy's family killed a Garre man they blamed for the death yesterday in Mandera. After burying their guy, Garre went on a rampage before the Kenyan army put down the riot. A house owned by one of my dad's brothers was almost burnt. Also a Murulle man protecting a Marehan kiosk being targeted by the Garre was killed in the crossfire. Now the Marehan are swearing they will remove Garre from all the area surrounding Somalia and the Murulle are joining demanding justice for their man killed. My abti is hosting a Marehan/Celi in Beled-xaawo that fled the melee in Mandera. The Kenyan army realizing the danger to their mission in Gedo are also not taking chances of turning the people against them so the Defence Ministry is adamant the situation in northeastern Kenya will not get out of hand.

Situation is like a powder keg.

Marley, Mandera does have a lot of Garre but comparing Marehan to corner tribes is something even you know is far from the truth especially knowing just the Marehan in Beled-Xaawo have enough manpower to move around in northeastern Kenya with impunity when it comes to clan basis. I doubt Garre wants to fight Marehan again with a bigger fear now being the hostility between Garre and Murulle will be reignited with lone Murulle casualty from the riots today.

[Marley1238]

voltage, i am not suggesting marehan is weak tribe, they own Gedo, half galgaduud and control kismayo. but it ismiracle to me that cali dheere can fight inside mandheere with garre. i am not garre not even from mandheera but i lived many years in that area and familiar with geographic area

[Lamagoodle]

Voltage, your knowledge of the tribal dynamics in Mandera is very limited saaxib. Marley has a point.

Apart from the three main tribes that domicile the district all other somalis are termed as " corner" tribe. The notion of collectively calling all other tribes (some of these are sworn enemies in other parts of somalia) has bonded the corner tribes; there is hardly any conflict between them; there is harmony and fraternity; the three main tribes seldomly fight them. They also hold political offices and are the backbone of the local economy.

If the current conflict escalates the losers will suddenly be the cornertribes in Mandera and it will likely result in Al-sheydhaan recapturing Buulo Xaawo. So, let us pray this issue is resolved.

The three main tribes have successively tried (in vain) to have some of the corner tribes on their side in the conflicts; Corner tribes are very smart people and are aware that this is not in their interest and have stayed out of the conflicts.

Most of the tribal wars between the main three tribes is usually the result of politics; election time is normally war time.

I have spoken to people in Mandera and there are discussions to resolve the issue.

[Voltage]

Lol @ these guys teaching me about Mandeera.

I was in Mandera two and half years ago. My dad's brother owns property there. My dad's habar yar (his mom's sister) relocated from the Netherlands to live there and owns properties. Two of my youngest abtiyaal are in Kenyan boarding school in Mandera. Your assumption is Marehan is part of "Corner Tribes". Marehan is not part of corner tribes. Because Marehan is so synonymous with Somalia side, people underestimate their position in Mandera and northeastern Kenya and because the Degoodiye, Garre, and Murulle are not really synonymous anywhere else they are considered the only "non-Corner Tribes".

Again, Marehan is not part of Corner Tribes and especially now. There are five major clans in Mandera District; Garre, Murulle, Degoodiye, Marehan, and "Corner Tribes" who live in Mandera Town which are individually insignificant groups and whose membership can range from as small as couple families. Also, because the Marehan surround Mandera District from Somalia side and Suufka side in Ethiopia, Marehan are even more central to the clan dynamics in Mandera District than any other clan.

Here is a Kenyan professor writing about the district for the Kenya UNDP in UNDP 2010 magazine.





http://www.ke.undp.org/index.php/resources/download/34

Along with the Kenya UNDP 2010 research, here is a Wikileaks from US Embassy in Kenya



So who is right when they say Marehan is under Murulle or anyone's protection as Marley said rather than the other way or that Marehan (a "corner tribe") is a toothless neutral party? Waa yaab wallahi

[Advo]

Ilaahay hakala qabto umadaas is dagaalsan, war never profits anyone.

[Lamagoodle]

Dear Voltage. I was born there and I visit Mandera at least twice a year. I know very well the history of the NFD in general and Mandera district in particular. I have read articles (and have written some myself).

Yaasan catiifad ku qaadin saaxib. Contemporary discourses based on tribal maxaa la yiri perspective aside, Mandera remains a district in which virtually every somali clan is called Corner tribe. I think it is wrong to assume that the word "corner" is wrong. It does not denote scale (even though the Kenyan government in its divide and rule policy made it a deragatory term). On the contrary the term gives somalis who are collectively termed as corner tribe a sense of brotherhood.

So, most of the inhabitants are proud to call themselves corner tribe!!!!!! For them it is a somaliweyn word and allow them to live peacefully and call each other adeer, abti, walaal despite the tragedy in somalia where many of these corner tribes are at each other's throats.

As regards the so called war between two clans, this is what we know; a) a few weeks ago members of what was supposed to be alshabaab attacked Mandera. They killed someone and were chased by locals who burned one of the culprits. Yesterday, some of the sub-clan members of the slain shabaab killed a taxi driver...

In any case, let us hope that this is resolved and the corner tribe community is engaged to find peaceful means.

P.s. it is futile and intellectually demeaning to turn every skirmishes into tribal wars.