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Armed Islamists seize Algerian consulate in Gao in north-eastern Mali, arresting diplomats, raising their black flag at building.
BAMAKO - Armed Islamists occupied the Algerian consulate in Gao in north-eastern Mali, arresting diplomats and raising their black flag at the building, several witnesses said on Thursday.

"I am currently in front of the Algerian consulate in district four in Gao. Armed Islamists have entered the consulate, arrested the diplomats and staff and taken down the Algerian flag to put up their own," one witness said in Bamako by telephone.

He said the Islamists "are also around the consulate, armed. Most of them have black skin."

A second witness confirmed the information: "I am next to the Algerian consulate, at the moment I can see black men, armed, around the consulate and inside. They have replaced the Algerian flag with a black flag with Arabic writing."

"I saw the Salafists' flag in place of the Algerian flag at the consulate but at the consul's house the Algerian flag is still up," said a third.

The town of Gao, which housed the regional military headquarters, was seized on Saturday by Tuareg and Islamists linked to Al-Qaeda splinter group the Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa.

With the town split between the various rebel groups, lawlessness has been rife with humanitarian workers and locals telling of the widespread looting of government and private buildings, and theft of residents' cars.

The military rulers in Bamako who seized power two weeks ago have accused the rebels in Gao of kidnapping and raping women and girls.
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BAMAKO, Mali (AP) — Mali's Tuareg rebels, who have seized control of the country's distant north in the chaotic aftermath of a military coup in the capital, declared independence Friday of their Azawad nation.

"We, the people of the Azawad," they said in a statement published on the rebel website, "proclaim the irrevocable independence of the state of the Azawad starting from this day, Friday, April 6, 2012."

The military chiefs of 13 of Mali's neighbors met Thursday in Ivory Coast to hash out plans for a military intervention to push back the rebels in the north, as well as to restore constitutional rule after disgruntled soldiers last month stormed the presidential palace and sent the democratically elected leader into hiding. The confusion in the capital created an opening for the rebels in the north, who have been attempting to claim independence for more than 50 years.

France, which earlier said it is willing to offer logistical support for a military invasion, announced Friday that it does not recognize the new Tuareg state.

"A unilateral declaration of independence that is not recognized by African states means nothing for us," said French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet. The European Union concurred.

"We will certainly not accept this declaration. It's out of the question," said Richard Zinc, the head of the European Union delegation in Bamako.

The traditionally nomadic Tuareg people have been fighting for independence for the northern half of Mali since at least 1958, when Tuareg elders wrote a letter addressed to the French president asking their colonial rulers to carve out a separate homeland called "Azawad" in their language. Instead the north, where the lighter-skinned Tuareg people live, was made part of the same country as the south, where the dark-skinned ethnic groups controlled the capital and the nation's finances.

The Tuaregs accuse the southerners of marginalizing the north and of concentrating development, including lucrative aid projects, in the south. They fought numerous rebellions attempting to wrestle the north free, but it wasn't until a March 21 coup in Bamako toppled the nation's elected government that the fighters were able to make significant gains. In a three-day period last week they seized the three largest cities in the north as soldiers dumped their uniforms and retreated.

Their independence declaration cited 50 years of misrule by the country's southern-based administration and was issued by the National Movement for the Liberation of the Azawad, or NMLA, whose army is led by a Tuareg senior commander who fought in the late Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's military.

The group is secular and its stated aim is creating Azawad. However, they were helped by an Islamist faction, Ansar Dine, which abides by the extreme Salafi reading of the Quran. They are now attempting to apply Shariah law to Mali's moderate north, including in the fabled tourist destination of Timbuktu, where women have been told to wear veils and not be seen in public with males who are not relatives.

In all three of the major cities in the north, residents say they do not know which of the two factions has the upper hand. In the city of Gao, from where the NMLA declaration of independence was written, a resident said that it appeared that the Islamist faction was in control, not the NMLA.

"I heard the declaration but I'm telling you the situation on the ground. We barely see the NMLA. The people we see are the Salafis," said the young man, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal. "I can't tell which group they are exactly, but we know they are the Islamists because of their beards. They are the people in control of Gao. I'm right near the Algerian consulate right now which they have taken control of and they are here. They are armed and other are in the back of their pickup trucks," he said.

On Thursday, residents confirmed that the Ansar Dine faction stormed the Algerian consulate, and took the consul and six other employees hostage.

Foreign governments are concerned that the Islamist wing of the rebel movement is providing cover for al-Qaida's North African branch, known as al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM. The terrorist organization has kidnapped scores of Western tourists and aid workers and is known to have at least three bases in northern Mali.

Until the recent rebel takeover, AQIM's fighters were never seen in the towns, living on remote desert bases. They employed locals as runners, to bring them supplies as well as to transport the proof of life of the half-dozen hostages they are still holding, including Italian, French and Spanish nationals.

Ousmane Halle, the mayor of Timbuktu, said that the Ansar Dine faction has taken over the military base in the center of the ancient city. Their fighters include men with beards who do not speak Tamashek, the Tuareg language, meaning that they are not Tuareg, even though they claim to be fighting on behalf of the Tuareg people.

"They do not speak any African language as far as I can tell. In fact, I don't believe any of them are African," said Halle, who explained that their dress and appearance leads him to believe that they are likely foreign fighters recruited by the al-Qaida franchise.


The power struggle at the heart of the Tuareg rebellion adds another layer of uncertainty to the current crisis. Many worry that the extremists may co-opt the independence movement in order to create a terror state.

The black ethnic groups that live in the north are concerned that the creation of the Tuareg state will mean they will be chased out of their own homes. Already the roughly 300 Christians living in Timbuktu have fled, said the mayor.

The representative of Timbuktu in the nation's parliament in Bamako, who is from the dark-skinned Sonrai ethnicity, said there will be civil war if the Tuaregs attempt to impose their will on blacks in the north.

"I consider that the communique regarding the independence of the Azawad by the MNLA is null and void," El Hadji Baba Haidara said on Friday. "An armed movement cannot speak in the name of the people of the Azawad."
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Mr haidara , i knew he was songhay :lol:

here he is
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he says , the fighters are islamist Tchadians , Lybians , and Somalians , they recognised their language :lol:

http://www.jeuneafrique.com/Article/ART ... istan.html
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These Haidara brothers , the cameraman and the politician are at least consistent in recognising the somali language :lol:

Mr Haidara the politician said " Tchadians , Somalis and Lybians "
Mr Haidara , the cameraman said " " Nigerians , Somalis , and Tunisians "
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the Well of Bouctou: is said to be the foundation of the city; a woman, called Bouctou, guarded the luggage of the passing tradesmen and the well, which was called “Tin”in a local language.
That "local" language is Tamshaq I believe , the language of the Tuareg.
I don't understand the " we have recognised their language " part though .
Let's say you have Tchadians , Somalis and Lybians at a place somewhere . In what language would they be talking to each other ?
If we believe Mr Haidara , each guy would be talking to the other guy in his native tongue . :lol:
How can such an uncoordinated group take over "his town" ?
These people are clowns , long live the MNLA !!!
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The guys on the first post aren't the MNLA, and in the video he explicitly says he is not trying to fight for independence but to take over the whole state. So there must be some truth to what they are saying. Looks like the MNLA isn't fully in control and their goals aren't even the same. This is without considering the major towns aren't all Tuareg.
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Sahan, you seem to know a lot about them. Ma bariba cleaner ka ahan jirtay?
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Tombouctou est une ville islamique depuis le 12e siècle... Et maintenant les islamistes veulent nous apprendre à prier !

:lol: He's saying Timbuktu was a Muslim town since the 12th century and now the Islamists want to teach us how to pray :lol:

Mr. Haidara has a point.
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SahanGalbeed wrote:
BAMAKO, Mali (AP) — Mali's Tuareg rebels, who have seized control of the country's distant north in the chaotic aftermath of a military coup in the capital, declared independence Friday of their Azawad nation.

"We, the people of the Azawad," they said in a statement published on the rebel website, "proclaim the irrevocable independence of the state of the Azawad starting from this day, Friday, April 6, 2012."

The military chiefs of 13 of Mali's neighbors met Thursday in Ivory Coast to hash out plans for a military intervention to push back the rebels in the north, as well as to restore constitutional rule after disgruntled soldiers last month stormed the presidential palace and sent the democratically elected leader into hiding. The confusion in the capital created an opening for the rebels in the north, who have been attempting to claim independence for more than 50 years.

France, which earlier said it is willing to offer logistical support for a military invasion, announced Friday that it does not recognize the new Tuareg state.

"A unilateral declaration of independence that is not recognized by African states means nothing for us," said French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet. The European Union concurred.

"We will certainly not accept this declaration. It's out of the question," said Richard Zinc, the head of the European Union delegation in Bamako.

The traditionally nomadic Tuareg people have been fighting for independence for the northern half of Mali since at least 1958, when Tuareg elders wrote a letter addressed to the French president asking their colonial rulers to carve out a separate homeland called "Azawad" in their language. Instead the north, where the lighter-skinned Tuareg people live, was made part of the same country as the south, where the dark-skinned ethnic groups controlled the capital and the nation's finances.

The Tuaregs accuse the southerners of marginalizing the north and of concentrating development, including lucrative aid projects, in the south. They fought numerous rebellions attempting to wrestle the north free, but it wasn't until a March 21 coup in Bamako toppled the nation's elected government that the fighters were able to make significant gains. In a three-day period last week they seized the three largest cities in the north as soldiers dumped their uniforms and retreated.

Their independence declaration cited 50 years of misrule by the country's southern-based administration and was issued by the National Movement for the Liberation of the Azawad, or NMLA, whose army is led by a Tuareg senior commander who fought in the late Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's military.

The group is secular and its stated aim is creating Azawad. However, they were helped by an Islamist faction, Ansar Dine, which abides by the extreme Salafi reading of the Quran. They are now attempting to apply Shariah law to Mali's moderate north, including in the fabled tourist destination of Timbuktu, where women have been told to wear veils and not be seen in public with males who are not relatives.

In all three of the major cities in the north, residents say they do not know which of the two factions has the upper hand. In the city of Gao, from where the NMLA declaration of independence was written, a resident said that it appeared that the Islamist faction was in control, not the NMLA.

"I heard the declaration but I'm telling you the situation on the ground. We barely see the NMLA. The people we see are the Salafis," said the young man, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal. "I can't tell which group they are exactly, but we know they are the Islamists because of their beards. They are the people in control of Gao. I'm right near the Algerian consulate right now which they have taken control of and they are here. They are armed and other are in the back of their pickup trucks," he said.

On Thursday, residents confirmed that the Ansar Dine faction stormed the Algerian consulate, and took the consul and six other employees hostage.

Foreign governments are concerned that the Islamist wing of the rebel movement is providing cover for al-Qaida's North African branch, known as al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM. The terrorist organization has kidnapped scores of Western tourists and aid workers and is known to have at least three bases in northern Mali.

Until the recent rebel takeover, AQIM's fighters were never seen in the towns, living on remote desert bases. They employed locals as runners, to bring them supplies as well as to transport the proof of life of the half-dozen hostages they are still holding, including Italian, French and Spanish nationals.

Ousmane Halle, the mayor of Timbuktu, said that the Ansar Dine faction has taken over the military base in the center of the ancient city. Their fighters include men with beards who do not speak Tamashek, the Tuareg language, meaning that they are not Tuareg, even though they claim to be fighting on behalf of the Tuareg people.

"They do not speak any African language as far as I can tell. In fact, I don't believe any of them are African," said Halle, who explained that their dress and appearance leads him to believe that they are likely foreign fighters recruited by the al-Qaida franchise.


The power struggle at the heart of the Tuareg rebellion adds another layer of uncertainty to the current crisis. Many worry that the extremists may co-opt the independence movement in order to create a terror state.

The black ethnic groups that live in the north are concerned that the creation of the Tuareg state will mean they will be chased out of their own homes. Already the roughly 300 Christians living in Timbuktu have fled, said the mayor.

The representative of Timbuktu in the nation's parliament in Bamako, who is from the dark-skinned Sonrai ethnicity, said there will be civil war if the Tuaregs attempt to impose their will on blacks in the north.

"I consider that the communique regarding the independence of the Azawad by the MNLA is null and void," El Hadji Baba Haidara said on Friday. "An armed movement cannot speak in the name of the people of the Azawad."
WHATS UP WITH AFRO-MUSLIMS INVITING ARABS AND PAKISTANIS INTO THEIR COUNTRIES TO BRING TERROR. FIRST SOMALIA, NOW MALI. :down:
ITS NOT LIKE THE FOREIGNER MUSLIMS GAVE A SHID ABOUT THEIR STRUGGLES BEFORE.
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Video from Timbuktu
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hope it works out for them
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Jaidi wrote:The guys on the first post aren't the MNLA, and in the video he explicitly says he is not trying to fight for independence but to take over the whole state. So there must be some truth to what they are saying. Looks like the MNLA isn't fully in control and their goals aren't even the same. This is without considering the major towns aren't all Tuareg.
Where does it say they are ?
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(Reuters) - Members of Mali's Arab community in the northern town of Timbuktu have formed an armed group to fill the void left by the army's retreat, adding to a host of factions already involved and extending the ethnic dimension of Mali's conflict.

Residents in Timbuktu said the new group, known as the Azawad National Liberation Front, or FLNA, was essentially made up of members of an Arab militia that had been established to defend the town during an advance by Tuareg-led rebels.

After several months of fighting, the rebels - some of whom want independence for the north while others seek to impose sharia, Islamic law - swept through Mali's north last week, taking advantage of a coup in the distant capital which caused the front line to implode.

The rebels have an uneasy relationship, having coordinated attacks against government forces but now finding themselves vying for control of the zones they jointly seized.

Mohamed Lamine Sidad, FLNA's secretary general, told Reuters that the group sought neither independence nor sharia.

"We have our own interests to defend - a return to peace and economic activity," Sidad said by telephone, highlighting the economic clout the Arab trading community enjoys in Timbuktu, one of three northern regions seized by rebels.

Sidad, who said the group sought a peaceful resolution to Mali's crisis, refused to say how many fighters the group had.

Residents said the militia had several hundred members before the rebel advance but were unlikely to match the firepower of either the separatist MNLA rebel group or Ansar Dine, which experts say has links with local al Qaeda factions.

Timbuktu is largely in the hands of Ansar Dine, though the MNLA have retained control of the airport and the Arab militia withdrew to the town's outskirts without putting up a fight when the rebels entered last week, residents say.

The formal establishment of the Timbuktu group comes after Ganda Iso, a local pro-government militia in and around Gao, another town seized, failed to fend off the rebel advance there.

As armed groups jostle for position in the north, West African mediators are nudging Mali's leaders in Bamako towards resolving the crisis caused by the coup.

Ousted President Amadou Toumani toure resigned on Sunday, paving the way for the military to hand power to the president of the National Assembly, as required by the constitution.

On Monday, junta leader Amadou Sanogo met Diouncounda Traore, the president of the National Assembly, who is due to take over as president of Mali, but no statements were made.

A return to constitutional order was demanded by Mali's neighbors to ease sanctions and raise the prospects of regional group ECOWAS coming to the aid of Malian forces in the north.

"We are starting to recuperate the state. This is important," Baba Haidara, member of parliament for Timbuktu, told Reuters on Monday.

However, Haidara said the emergence of FLNA highlighted the fluidity of a zone where regional and Western powers fear al Qaeda will extend its reach in the chaos.

"It is total confusion. We don't know what is all about."

With Mali's military in tatters, outsiders - from ECOWAS as well as desert neighbors Algeria and Mauritania, who are not part of the bloc - are being looked to try to restore a semblance of government control in the north.

But it will take both time and further negotiation to get boots on the ground given the differences between the nations and practicalities of raising a force to fight in the desert.

Mohamed Cisse, president of Timbuktu's regional assembly, said the Arab community was likely to be positioning itself for talks due to be held as a first effort to end the crisis.

The MNLA, which was boosted by men and weapons from Libya's conflict, have received little support for their declaration of independence, partly as the Tuareg are just one of many communities in the northern desert zones.

Underscoring the potential for the ethnic dimension of the conflict to deepen, a member of the FLNA said: "We, the Arabs of Timbuktu, will never be ruled by a Tuareg from Kidal," he said, referring to the most northern of the three seized regions, which is largely seen as a Tuareg homeland.
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Arab here means , Moor .
Like this guy here who worked for the deposed gov
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