Historic Photo - 1925 Peace Treaty: Harti & Maxamed Zubeer

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

[Babygirl-]

Peace between brothers...

[ina aadan]

Subeer Maxamed, Siin Waaq, Bah Geri, Habar Siciid oo dhan
Todobadii Harti iyo Waxaa loo tegi Sade Mareexaane
Daarood silsiladiisa kore ayaa laysa soo sudhine.

Woxogay yar baan badalay, si uuna Ugaasku igu qabsan.

[maryandagan]

where was this treaty took place ....??

is it the kismayo treaty

[guhad122]

This was Kismaayo and it was the British who signed the agreement between M/Subeer and Harti. You have to remember that there was never a combined Ogaden in Waamo vs Harti. The conflict was always between Reer Cabdille and Harti; and still the Harti's were owned. In addition to fighting with Harti, Reer Cabdile often fought with Tolamoge and Cawlyahan. I laugh when I see Harti vs Ogaden in Waamo; forget about Reer Cabdille, there are more Maqaabul in Waamo than Harti combined.

Nevertheless this is a historic event; you can tell the Harti's are the ones with the British officers and the OGs/Reer Cabdille elders are the ones from the other side..

[Teeri]

This was Kismaayo and it was the British who signed the agreement between M/Subeer and Harti. You have to remember that there was never a combined Ogaden in Waamo vs Harti. The conflict was always between Reer Cabdille and Harti; and still the Harti's were owned. In addition to fighting with Harti, Reer Cabdile often fought with Tolamoge and Cawlyahan. I laugh when I see Harti vs Ogaden in Waamo; forget about Reer Cabdille, there are more Maqaabul in Waamo than Harti combined.

Nevertheless this is a historic event; you can tell the Harti's are the ones with the British officers and the OGs/Reer Cabdille elders are the ones from the other side..

keep in mind the brits needed the treaty as they just finished the war with abdirahman mursal -1909-1924 in the NFD and the italians will be battleing Sultan Ahmed magan till 1936,

[Teeri]

This was Kismaayo and it was the British who signed the agreement between M/Subeer and Harti. You have to remember that there was never a combined Ogaden in Waamo vs Harti. The conflict was always between Reer Cabdille and Harti; and still the Harti's were owned. In addition to fighting with Harti, Reer Cabdile often fought with Tolamoge and Cawlyahan. I laugh when I see Harti vs Ogaden in Waamo; forget about Reer Cabdille, there are more Maqaabul in Waamo than Harti combined.

Nevertheless this is a historic event; you can tell the Harti's are the ones with the British officers and the OGs/Reer Cabdille elders are the ones from the other side..

also to add this is when mohamed zubeer wipped harti and named the region ''lafaha harti'' they became even smaller after harti was repulsed from the south and in shabeels area.

[Eaglehawk]

Harti and ogadeen diaspora meeting in kismaayo early 20 century, now those Diasporas have moved on and are now in Minneapolis. This photo shows you an immigrant is never loyal to the land
I am a great believer in the principle of “Right of return” I believe the decedents of those in the pictured returned to their native land in puntland and ogadeniya

The term right of return refers to a principle of international law, codified in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, giving any person the right to return to, and re-enter, his or her country of origin. This principle is sometimes reflected in special consideration in a country's immigration laws (called "repatriation") which facilitate or encourage the reunion of a diaspora.

[metamorphosis]

Harti and ogadeen diaspora meeting in kismaayo early 20 century, now those Diasporas have moved on and are now in Minneapolis. This photo shows you an immigrant is never loyal to the land
I am a great believer in the principle of “Right of return” I believe the decedents of those in the pictured returned to their native land in puntland and ogadeniya

The term right of return refers to a principle of international law, codified in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, giving any person the right to return to, and re-enter, his or her country of origin. This principle is sometimes reflected in special consideration in a country's immigration laws (called "repatriation") which facilitate or encourage the reunion of a diaspora.

Wishful thinking.

[Eaglehawk]

Harti and ogadeen diaspora meeting in kismaayo early 20 century, now those Diasporas have moved on and are now in Minneapolis. This photo shows you an immigrant is never loyal to the land
I am a great believer in the principle of “Right of return” I believe the decedents of those in the pictured returned to their native land in puntland and ogadeniya

The term right of return refers to a principle of international law, codified in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, giving any person the right to return to, and re-enter, his or her country of origin. This principle is sometimes reflected in special consideration in a country's immigration laws (called "repatriation") which facilitate or encourage the reunion of a diaspora.

Wishful thinking.

metamorphosis I am willing to grant beesha absame the “native status” and am willing to grant the privileges that come with native status, lakin harti iyo jubaland kala saar
there is no such thing as harti in jubaland, we have gaaljecel, sheeqal, ogadeen, marexaan, bajuni
harti wa marti marexaan ama marti ogadeen

[metamorphosis]

Wishful thinking. [/quote]

metamorphosis I am willing to grant beesha absame the “native status” and am willing to grant the privileges that come with native status, lakin harti iyo jubaland kala saar
there is no such thing as harti in jubaland, we have gaaljecel, sheeqal, ogadeen, marexaan, bajuni
harti wa marti marexaan ama marti ogadeen[/quote] when you say i am willing to grant something to us you are making seem like you are In a position to do that. My sade cousins are not In charge of jubbaland. However if they do acquire that power within thr forthcoming years then i will have no choice but to do as they wish. But i sincerely doubt that will happen. and yea hqrti have a legitimate claim on the jubbas. Forget 1925, they were there In the 1880s.

[Eaglehawk]

I have nothing to add my absame cousin since you are defending illegal aliens

[metamorphosis]

illegal alien? Inalilah now thats just absurd.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

This was Kismaayo and it was the British who signed the agreement between M/Subeer and Harti. You have to remember that there was never a combined Ogaden in Waamo vs Harti. The conflict was always between Reer Cabdille and Harti; and still the Harti's were owned. In addition to fighting with Harti, Reer Cabdile often fought with Tolamoge and Cawlyahan. I laugh when I see Harti vs Ogaden in Waamo; forget about Reer Cabdille, there are more Maqaabul in Waamo than Harti combined.

Nevertheless this is a historic event; you can tell the Harti's are the ones with the British officers and the OGs/Reer Cabdille elders are the ones from the other side..

Dumb f-king cagdheer - do you realize that Harti at the time were minorities and newcomers to Jubbas who were a thousand miles away from home? And they still enslaved you in your own territory for the next hundred years despite being away from home.

Harti can do that, but you will never see an Cagdheer open his mouth in Harti territory without losing a tooth. You are like the Indians and we are the Pilgrims, it will always be that way.

[Eaglehawk]

This was Kismaayo and it was the British who signed the agreement between M/Subeer and Harti. You have to remember that there was never a combined Ogaden in Waamo vs Harti. The conflict was always between Reer Cabdille and Harti; and still the Harti's were owned. In addition to fighting with Harti, Reer Cabdile often fought with Tolamoge and Cawlyahan. I laugh when I see Harti vs Ogaden in Waamo; forget about Reer Cabdille, there are more Maqaabul in Waamo than Harti combined.

Nevertheless this is a historic event; you can tell the Harti's are the ones with the British officers and the OGs/Reer Cabdille elders are the ones from the other side..

Dumb f-king cagdheer - do you realize that Harti at the time were minorities and newcomers to Jubbas who were a thousand miles away from home? And they still enslaved you in your own territory for the next hundred years despite being away from home.

Harti can do that, but you will never see an Cagdheer open his mouth in Harti territory without losing a tooth. You are like the Indians and we are the Pilgrims, it will always be that way.