Ogaden has always been at war

[metamorphosis]

check this out. While our great leader ina abdille hassn was fighiting clonial intruders in the north, other ogaden men were fighiting in the south trying to rid our land(somalia) of the white europeans.

I saw Mr
Jenner’s dead body. I saw them carry his head-it was stuck on a knife; they then tied it
to a rope and carried it about all day. 21

Ibrahim Guled reports that:
At 4 o clock in the morning on the 16th I saw a lot of Ogadens rush into Mr Jenners
camp; many men seized me and held me, and I saw the tents of Mr Jenner come
down. 19

Later the Ogadens killed several
African Police constables.

Wallace Blake was mentioned in Mr Jenner’s despatches to Sir Arthur
Hardinge when reporting on the Ogaden rebellion of 7th November 1898.
13 This particular episode of disruption started on March 22nd when
Ogaden warriors murdered three Arabs in protest against slave trading
restrictions

The Ogaden had been killing people (albeit in fairly small
numbers) and were being generally uncooperative with the new
administration. They had also been slow in paying fines

Major Frederick Wallace Hastings Blake (usually known as Wallace
Blake) had a varied career in British Colonial Africa and the military and
civil prison service. He rose to some prominence as the man on the spot
that replaced Sub Commissioner Jenner 1 after his murder by Ogaden
Somalis on November 16th 1900.

Mr Blake, the Acting Sub Commissioner of Jubaland had strengthened the place by
putting up a barbed wire fence and taken various military precautions against a
possible attack by the Ogadens

Mr Blake, the Acting Sub Commissioner of Jubaland had strengthened the place by
putting up a barbed wire fence and taken various military precautions against a
possible attack by the Ogadens.’ 24

Another tragedy early in the campaign served to illustrate the extremely
dangerous nature of the Ogaden Somali. While Wallace Blake was
serving as Provost Marshall in Kismayu, Lieut. Colonel Maitland, the
PMO was killed on March 16th 1901

Colonel Ternan had been tricked because Mursal
was not loyal to the British, he was the same Somali leader who
murdered Lieutenant Elliott and some fifty Constabularies at Sereneli on
the night of February 2nd 1915.

The quotes are endless. mashallah to those great men who have sacrificed their lives for their country.

[Colonel]

I saw Mr
Jenner’s dead body. I saw them carry his head-it was stuck on a knife; they then tied it
to a rope and carried it about all day. 21

That's wassup

[metamorphosis]

Indeed my cousin. sometimes i wonder if somalias history could be written without ogaden?

[quark]

Ogaden

[guhad122]

There is no Somali history without Ogaden....Ogaden defines what Somaliness is...
I am glad to see young OG take the steps of the elder Guhad in proving that there is no history of Somalia but Ogaden
In defining a typical bush and pastoralist Somali, the explorer I. N. DRACOPOLI writes about Ogaden Jubaland in 1890s" These people wander through the interior of Jubaland in endless search of water and pasture for their stock. Wild and warlike at heart, the true Somali finds peace only in strife, and freedom only in a restless life".
http://www.archive.org/stream/throughju ... c_djvu.txt

[damu]

Ogaden

[Adali]

these warriors are not Ogaden, they are only Cawliyahan, because in Jubaland the Maxamed Suber were in bed with the colonizers. so is it not unfair for Cawliyahan to be grouped Maxamed Suber under Ogaden when they were fighting them along with their colonizing Masters, the Cawliyahan killed more Ogaden in Jubaland than any colonizer or Marehan because they hated the Maxamed Suber for joining the Colonizers.

The Daraawiish of the South were the Galti Marehan and the Cawliyahan, don't try to lie about history, Cawliyahan.

[Talo alle udaa]

these warriors are not Ogaden, they are only Cawliyahan, because in Jubaland the Maxamed Suber were in bed with the colonizers. so is it not unfair for Cawliyahan to be grouped Maxamed Suber under Ogaden when they were fighting them along with their colonizing Masters, the Cawliyahan killed more Ogaden in Jubaland than any colonizer or Marehan because they hated the Maxamed Suber for joining the Colonizers.

The Daraawiish of the South were the Galti Marehan and the Cawliyahan, don't try to lie about history, Cawliyahan.

Saxiib, ogadeenka qabiiluu u kala baxaa, wa ruunta mareexahn iyo maxamed subeer laluush bey qaateen, laakiin Cawlyahanku wadaadkoodi daba galeen.

[Eaglehawk]

these warriors are not Ogaden, they are only Cawliyahan, because in Jubaland the Maxamed Suber were in bed with the colonizers. so is it not unfair for Cawliyahan to be grouped Maxamed Suber under Ogaden when they were fighting them along with their colonizing Masters, the Cawliyahan killed more Ogaden in Jubaland than any colonizer or Marehan because they hated the Maxamed Suber for joining the Colonizers.

The Daraawiish of the South were the Galti Marehan and the Cawliyahan, don't try to lie about history, Cawliyahan.

indr ogadeen ha kala saarin
absame

[metamorphosis]

these warriors are not Ogaden, they are only Cawliyahan, because in Jubaland the Maxamed Suber were in bed with the colonizers. so is it not unfair for Cawliyahan to be grouped Maxamed Suber under Ogaden when they were fighting them along with their colonizing Masters, the Cawliyahan killed more Ogaden in Jubaland than any colonizer or Marehan because they hated the Maxamed Suber for joining the Colonizers.

The Daraawiish of the South were the Galti Marehan and the Cawliyahan, don't try to lie about history, Cawliyahan.

Kaagan yar maxaad la godlataa kolkaad ogaden maqasho? teeda kale somalidu waa tii.ku maahmahday.... Gacani garab bay dib u gashaa. auliyahan soo ogaden dib uma galo kolka?. What you just said is akin to me saying if you are not reer kooshin then you cant really identify with siyad barre even though you are marexaan. that is very stupid thinking. Also, dont get confused because abdulrahman mursal was fighting in thr nfd and these quotes I have mentioned are the wars that happened in kismaayo. next, why are you making this a marexan and ogaden battle? history cannot changed because its too rigid. the point I was making here is that we were fighting in 3 different countries.at once. waxkastaa marexaan bad ka dhax aragtaa?

[Adali]

Talo alle udaa...cuqdad gaar hadaad Mareexaan u qabtid adigee kuu taala, balse been ha iga sheegin. I never said Marehan took Laluush, this irrational response is expected from people who do not appreciate Marehan role as a anti-colonialism engine in the peninsula. What I said was, Marehan and Cawliyahan were the only ones opposing the British Empire in that region, whiles the Marehan "Guri" kept their neutrality, the Maxamed Suber were actively pro-colonialism and supported the Gaalo.

Eaglehawk.... tol jira waye Ogadeen dhamaantood hasa ahaatee tariikhda in la qaloociyo ma haboona, nasiib daro waye in maanta Cawliyahan oo dhiig badan u daadshey Jihaadka inee maanta ciyaal yaryar beeniyaan tariikhdood oo ee Ogaden uwada bixiyaan.

its like saying Harti fought the colonials, when in fact it was entirely Dhulbahante who gave their men and wealth to fight the Gaalo, whiles their fellow Harti were doing the opposite.

cunuga yar Metamorphosis, you should look before you leap.
when discussing history, statements that can be backed up by historical references are only to be taken as facts, if you do not follow this rule there is no substance in these discussions.

[metamorphosis]

Okay bro. back up your claim where you said auliyahan hated mohamed zubeer because they sided with the colonoes. Back it up please. Everything I said is confirmed by that article and everything you said is not backed up by anything, yet.you are the one telling me to back something up?

[Talo alle udaa]

Adali--Saaxiib I do not make allegations without backing them up, and Im never an individual that puts down others or makes fun of a person's lineage, my record on Snet is clear for all to see. What I have said and has ocurred, is that during a punitive expidition by the British against the Cawlyahan, the British made deals with both the Mareexaan in Gedo and the Maxamed Subeer in lower jubba. The british did this to Isolate the Cawlyahan and annihilate them, which they did to a certain extent.

[Adali]

these warriors are not Ogaden, they are only Cawliyahan, because in Jubaland the Maxamed Suber were in bed with the colonizers. so is it not unfair for Cawliyahan to be grouped Maxamed Suber under Ogaden when they were fighting them along with their colonizing Masters, the Cawliyahan killed more Ogaden in Jubaland than any colonizer or Marehan because they hated the Maxamed Suber for joining the Colonizers.

The Daraawiish of the South were the Galti Marehan and the Cawliyahan, don't try to lie about history, Cawliyahan.

Kaagan yar maxaad la godlataa kolkaad ogaden maqasho? teeda kale somalidu waa tii.ku maahmahday.... Gacani garab bay dib u gashaa. auliyahan soo ogaden dib uma galo kolka?. What you just said is akin to me saying if you are not reer kooshin then you cant really identify with siyad barre even though you are marexaan. that is very stupid thinking. Also, dont get confused because abdulrahman mursal was fighting in thr nfd and these quotes I have mentioned are the wars that happened in kismaayo. next, why are you making this a marexan and ogaden battle? history cannot changed because its too rigid. the point I was making here is that we were fighting in 3 different countries.at once. waxkastaa marexaan bad ka dhax aragtaa?

your analogy is completely false, it doesn't matter where a leader is from, what matters is who follows him and his idea, for example Sayidka was Ogaden "Bah Gerri" but majority of the Ogaden "Maxamed Suber" in that area in the North rejected him.

Now unless you can tell me Marehan rejecting Siyaad Barre your analogy is flawed and you my friend are the stupid child.

you made another point, why I involve Marehan, well like it or not Marehan is part of Jubaland and therefor part of Jubaland History. And the subject of my replies to this topic was not Marehan, but the Cawliyahan, obviously you ignore that all together.

finally this is not a battle, you posted some quotes without sources and you added your descriptions to them.

[metamorphosis]

Inalilah. Brother are you really not understanding me or are you trolling? You said it wasnt ogaden that did that, it was auliyahan as if auliyahan is different qabiil on its own. So i used that anology to show you how stupid yours was and i did say its stupid thinking so i dont see what you proved here. Also, this particulat article does not mention marehan, not even once so there is not much i can fo there. I am noy interested In og vs mr cyber war, so if thats what you are looking for, then are In The wrong thread.