Watching Game Of Thrones And Somali Parallels

[Murax]

I find none. Mid Evil Europe, East Asia, The Middle East (back in the Khilafah), Ethiopia and many parts of the world were always used to having a single emperor, ruler, king that everybody submits to. Somalis it seems We never had that and it was always random tribes controlling and being a king in their area but nobody who rules them all. The closest I can think of that Somalia or Somalis ever had to a King, Emperor who ruled from Ras Casayr to Ras Kambooni by force was Maxamed Siyaad Barre and whoever went against Him was destroyed just like people were put to the sword for 'treason' back in the day for going against the King. Personally speaking I wouldn't mind if there was a single clan, figuire, point of authority all Somalis recognize as being the only ones to rule and everybody following them instead of having all these points of influence. Things would have been so much more simple.


Imagine if all the Arabs were united? They'd be a major player in the world.

Imagine if all Somalis were united? We'd dominate the Horn and NFD, Galbeed would not be part of Kenya, Ethiopia respectively.

[eliteSomali]

Monarchy is practically impossible for a place like somalia. Simply because no qabiil is strong enough to make others submit to them. ANd even if an emperor or a king were to rise and attempt to rule by force, he'd probably be seen as a qabiil trying to rule rather than one man trying to rule. Besides, somalida iyagaaba gaajo iyo rafaad haysty, ma ayagaa waxaas wakhti u haye?

[Murax]

Monarchy is practically impossible for a place like somalia. Simply because no qabiil is strong enough to make others submit to them. ?

Thats the point I'm making. That as well as there haven't been figuries charismatic enough to make blocs that are big enough to raise a army that can do that.

[IRONm@N]

one things about Somalis is that we are individualistic, strong, independent, and we neither follow both God's or man-made laws.
the other problem is that there is no resolution or tanaasul for one another.

[eliteSomali]

Monarchy is practically impossible for a place like somalia. Simply because no qabiil is strong enough to make others submit to them. ?

Thats the point I'm making. That as well as there haven't been figuries charismatic enough to make blocs that are big enough to raise a army that can do that.

I think Ahmed guray came the closest because he had all qabiils fighting for him. But then, he's war was more religious than it was anything else.

[Murax]

Ironman,

You're right. Somalis will fight like the Sahaba fought the persians if another Somali tribe attacks them. Also they don't understand that only one man can rule and that one man may not always be Your clan.




Elite Somali,

I thought about Ahmed Guray but 1, we're not 100% sure he was Somali and 2ndly He wasn't ruling Somalia but was simply a militiary leader.

[Jaidi]

All nomads are like this man. Look at the Tuareg, they have never had central rule for the same reasons. I think the Fulani are similar too in that they can't be ruled over and gave all their neigbouring groups trouble

[eliteSomali]

Ironman,

You're right. Somalis will fight like the Sahaba fought the persians if another Somali tribe attacks them. Also they don't understand that only one man can rule and that one man may not always be Your clan.




Elite Somali,

I thought about Ahmed Guray but 1, we're not 100% sure he was Somali and 2ndly He wasn't ruling Somalia but was simply a militiary leader.

No. I was referring to the fact he was the only one that succeeding in appealing to all somali clans alike.

[Copy.&.Paste]

Imagine if all the Arabs were united? They'd be a major player in the world.

Imagine if all Somalis were united? We'd dominate the Horn and NFD, Galbeed would not be part of Kenya, Ethiopia respectively.

I could never understand why people would want to unite under one ethnicity. I can understand uniting under the same way of life, Islam. I can understand uniting people under the same political views, uniting people under the same basic goals etc.

But uniting people based on their race, ethnicity, or tribe does not make sense to me. Seems wrong.

[Lillaahiya]

one things about Somalis is that we are individualistic, strong, independent, and we neither follow both God's or man-made laws.
the other problem is that there is no resolution or tanaasul for one another.

Somalis are far from being individualistic or independent

[Xamud.]

one things about Somalis is that we are individualistic, strong, independent, and we neither follow both God's or man-made laws.
the other problem is that there is no resolution or tanaasul for one another.

Somalis are far from being individualistic or independent

If they were, qabiil wax la daho majirii lahayn, and every man would walk down the street as a single man knowing if he fucks with anyone he will have to deal with them on his own.

Haada everytime you walk down the street, you entire sub clan is with you, xitaa kan geela la joogo 100s of miles away

[Thuganomics]

Mid Evil

There was nothing "mid" about the history of Europe
I didn't read your article btw I just picked up on that mid thing

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Actually Somalia today resembles Macedonia before the rise of Philip II of Macedon (Alexander the Greats father). A factured country of Nomadic pastoralist populated by illiterate backward and tribal goat-herders. They had little to no central governmant power, constantly being invaded by Illyrians and thracians and politically being undermined by greeks city states like Athens and Thebes who sponsored pretenders to the Macedonian throne to promote disunity and instability within the country.

Of course, it was at this precise moment in time that a military and political genius like Philip came to power and all hell broke lose.

[Murax]

Actually Somalia today resembles Macedonia before the rise of Philip II of Macedon (Alexander the Greats father). A factured country of Nomadic pastoralist populated by illiterate backward and tribal goat-herders. They had little to no central governmant power, constantly being invaded by Illyrians and thracians and politically being undermined by greeks city states like Athens and Thebes who sponsored pretenders to the Macedonian throne to promote disunity and instability within the country.

Of course, it was at this precise moment in time that a military and political genius like Philip came to power and all hell broke lose.

I don't think this figuire will probably ever come and if they do, I'll be the first to give Bay'ah no matter what His qabiil

[Lillaahiya]

one things about Somalis is that we are individualistic, strong, independent, and we neither follow both God's or man-made laws.
the other problem is that there is no resolution or tanaasul for one another.

Somalis are far from being individualistic or independent

If they were, qabiil wax la daho majirii lahayn, and every man would walk down the street as a single man knowing if he fucks with anyone he will have to deal with them on his own.

Haada everytime you walk down the street, you entire sub clan is with you, xitaa kan geela la joogo 100s of miles away

Exactly my point. We come from a tribal collectivist society. Individualism wax la yaqaano ma'aha.