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Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:13 am
by SultanOrder
Is a society that is in harmony with nature, yet have the technology to harness it with out waste, possible?

A soceity that is fair and equatable, and everyone has all their basic needs met.

Is it to far to believe in a utopian society possible?

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:20 am
by Alphanumeric
Islamically speaking, it's a belief that it will happen. So, no.

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:24 am
by SultanOrder
not in this life sxb

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:24 am
by Alphanumeric
Yes, in this life.

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:26 am
by SultanOrder
The only time I'm aware of is the 7 or so years of the rule of Mahdi.

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:30 am
by Alphanumeric
Of Isa(AS)*

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:35 am
by SultanOrder
Rasulullah [Muhammad] said: “There will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans [Christians]. The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will be from the progeny of Hadrat Haroon [Honorable Aaron – Moses’ brother] and will be upheld for seven years. (Emphasis mine) 28

It appears that the period of this seven year peace agreement will likewise be the period of the Mahdi’s reign. While there are a few traditions that specify that the Mahdi will reign on the earth for as much as eight or possibly even nine years, most traditions state that the time of his reign will be seven years.

The Prophet said… He will divide the property, and will govern the people by the Sunnah of their Prophet and establish Islam on Earth. He will remain seven years, then die, and the Muslims will pray over him. (Emphasis mine) 29

The Prophet said: The Mahdi… will fill the earth with equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years. (Emphasis mine) 30


28 Tabarani, as related by Hadrat Abu Umamah, as quoted by Zubair Ali, p. 43 and Abduallah, p. 55

29 Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated by Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu'minin

30 Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4272, Narrated by Abu Sa'id al-Khudri

Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:35 am
by fighter
None religiously speaking, there is only one utopian society and its called

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Re: Utopian Society

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:25 am
by Alphanumeric
Perfect_Order wrote:
Rasulullah [Muhammad] said: “There will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans [Christians]. The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will be from the progeny of Hadrat Haroon [Honorable Aaron – Moses’ brother] and will be upheld for seven years. (Emphasis mine) 28

It appears that the period of this seven year peace agreement will likewise be the period of the Mahdi’s reign. While there are a few traditions that specify that the Mahdi will reign on the earth for as much as eight or possibly even nine years, most traditions state that the time of his reign will be seven years.

The Prophet said… He will divide the property, and will govern the people by the Sunnah of their Prophet and establish Islam on Earth. He will remain seven years, then die, and the Muslims will pray over him. (Emphasis mine) 29

The Prophet said: The Mahdi… will fill the earth with equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years. (Emphasis mine) 30


28 Tabarani, as related by Hadrat Abu Umamah, as quoted by Zubair Ali, p. 43 and Abduallah, p. 55

29 Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4273, Narrated by Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu'minin

30 Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 36, Number 4272, Narrated by Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
Yes, but... the rule of Isa (as)... Isn't it 40 years of complete peace, after all wars and religious sects are gone? That is what I was referring to. This reads more as a peace treaty.