he uses Western aid to further his own political ambitions including the expansion of his military.
We may hate him but he sure is political genius
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:27 pm
by Shirib
that's f*ckin African Studies 101, how is that genius?
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:38 pm
by grandpakhalif
Meles Zenawi has many qualities that make him a prime candidate for the Machiavellian Oscar, he sucessfully thwarted an all out civil war in Ethiopia by promising an equal federation of states thus preventing various ethnic groups from gaining support via appeal to ethnicity. His domestic policy genius, sucessfully injecting ethnic proxies that represent their people for example the kill5 administration zone. He also has positioned his ethnic group the Tigray in a favourable position siphoning funds meant to develop the whole country into the Highlands. Melez Zenawi is a man of decorum he has marginalized the Amhaaro and politically neutered them.
His foreign policy is even more amazing, this man has sucessfully branded Eritrea as a rogue state determined to suply terrorists in Somalia with weapons and has turned the UN and other agencies such as the IMF, World Bank etc, against the small red sea state.
I don't even have to discuss his role in the myriad Somalia continues to be in today and the future he has outlined for Jubbaland.
Wallahi wa genius!
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:39 pm
by grandpakhalif
anyways Mr. eelay I don't expect you to have the intellectual capability to recognize the political acumen of Mr. melez but I sure do recognize and admire his genius.
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:48 pm
by Eaglehawk
grandpakhalif wrote:Meles Zenawi has many qualities that make him a prime candidate for the Machiavellian Oscar, he sucessfully thwarted an all out civil war in Ethiopia by promising an equal federation of states thus preventing various ethnic groups from gaining support via appeal to ethnicity. His domestic policy genius, sucessfully injecting ethnic proxies that represent their people for example the kill5 administration zone. He also has positioned his ethnic group the Tigray in a favourable position siphoning funds meant to develop the whole country into the Highlands. Melez Zenawi is a man of decorum he has marginalized the Amhaaro and politically neutered them.
His foreign policy is even more amazing, this man has sucessfully branded Eritrea as a rogue state determined to suply terrorists in Somalia with weapons and has turned the UN and other agencies such as the IMF, World Bank etc, against the small red sea state.
I don't even have to discuss his role in the myriad Somalia continues to be in today and the future he has outlined for Jubbaland.
Wallahi wa genius!
Great analysis
If it wasn`t for the misfortune that befell upon our glorious kingdom, you granpakhalif my friend would be NSS bureau chief based in Addis Ababa
And I would be presenting morning intelligence briefings to president farmaajo
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:53 pm
by grandpakhalif
Indeed Mr. EagleHawk, I think Meles Zenawi learned his great political knowledge from Marehan themselves, it is only they who have controlled the Somali jungle for 21 years. How can Meles be an asset in the future of an independent Jubbaland?
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:08 pm
by Eaglehawk
It’s simple as you can see, mr melez discovered oil in dheka the reer Hassan part of the lugh mandeera basin, now for mr melez to utilize this new found wealth he requires effective ally across the border in Somalia, in the short term he needs us to guarantee security and in the long term our land will be the transit point of his oil to the world through kismaayo.
That’s why mr melez is advocating for 3 gobol jubaland instead of his previous 6 gobol maamul which he wanted to come under raxanwyan majority
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:13 pm
by grandpakhalif
Manshallah, there should be an oil pipline in Dheka region that can export oil via Kismayo. I think Meles gave up on the Berbera oil pipeline and has vied for the Kismayo option which is cheaper and more convenient. I think Marehan should get their act together and work with Meles to export oil in Dheka region (Mandheera-Lugh) basin we can also help Meles to export the Chinese Ogaden desert oil and secure the pipeline that way.
Big economic investments can be completed with ethiopia. Kismayo maybe the new muqdishu.
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:26 pm
by Eaglehawk
grandpakhalif wrote:Manshallah, there should be an oil pipline in Dheka region that can export oil via Kismayo. I think Meles gave up on the Berbera oil pipeline and has vied for the Kismayo option which is cheaper and more convenient. I think Marehan should get their act together and work with Meles to export oil in Dheka region (Mandheera-Lugh) basin we can also help Meles to export the Chinese Ogaden desert oil and secure the pipeline that way.
Big economic investments can be completed with ethiopia. Kismayo maybe the new muqdishu.
no mr granpakhalif we will not touch the ogaden oil until beesha ogadeen except that their oil should be exported, we don`t want to backstab absame we will persuade them into becoming like the kenyan ogadeens, who are productive people who know how to work the system to their advantage
that was ina ilay is mujahid
look granpakhalif what is happing across the border in kenya?
The lamu project is a multibillion investment project that will remake Geo-economic relations in the region and it will create an interdependence political network that includes us and as far as south sudan.
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:22 pm
by OAF
grandpakhalif wrote:Manshallah, there should be an oil pipline in Dheka region that can export oil via Kismayo. I think Meles gave up on the Berbera oil pipeline and has vied for the Kismayo option which is cheaper and more convenient. I think Marehan should get their act together and work with Meles to export oil in Dheka region (Mandheera-Lugh) basin we can also help Meles to export the Chinese Ogaden desert oil and secure the pipeline that way.
Big economic investments can be completed with ethiopia. Kismayo maybe the new muqdishu.
And what made you think that you can touch my oil? you can't even get near your own shit. just come to Ogaden and say that, let's see how it goes
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:28 pm
by Talo alle udaa
Dictators with zero-sum mentality have absolute rule and stamp out all those who oppose them. As a result of years of backstabbing his comrades, jailing some of them, if he was to fall one day their is nothing for the country to fall back on other than complete turmoil. Unless he can groom a successor and quietly leave which is difficult once you get use to the temptations of absolute power.
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:50 am
by OAF
There will be civil war in Ethiopia if Melez leaves. That's a good chance for ONLF to succeed taking control of Ogaden.
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:55 pm
by original dervish
ive never understood why the onlf just didnt leave in 1991.
terrible mistake
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:30 pm
by OAF
original dervish wrote:ive never understood why the onlf just didnt leave in 1991.
terrible mistake
What? leave in 1991?
Re: PM Meles is a political genius
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:48 pm
by original dervish
declare independence from ethiopia.
eritrea left....why did the ogadeni somalis hesitate? were they waiting for somalia to stabilise?