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Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Kenya.
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:36 am
by The`Republic
If this report is true it tells me two things.
1. Kenya has totally abandoned hope of Azania formation.
2. Ethiopia and Barre Hiiraale have had irreconcilable differences.
Ethiopia was never genuine about free the south from AL Shabaab. They wanted to secure only the border districts and leave the interior to Shabaab so they could keep getting aid money in the name of fighting terrorism. Barre Hiiraale broke with them and as a result they had a falling out. This was a well publicized fracture and we knew of this.
What we didn't know (according to this report) is that Barre Hiiraale has been trying to reach an agreement with Kenya but the Kenyans were still hopeful about Azania. Now Kenya has faced the music and has reached a "good agreement" with Hiiraale that caused him and his staff to move to the southwestern border in Ceel-waaq according to Col Warfaa.
Maybe Barre is seeing an opportunity with the Kenya/Sierra Leone official peace keeping mission to start soon which will take responsibility away from Ethiopia throughout Gedo and Jubbas and is using his clout and support base to position himself as the Somali "partner" to the mandate.
http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/ ... ke_Kismayo
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:41 am
by Murax
Interesting. If this is true, then Ethiopia has been completely sidelined from Somali affairs.
Looks like Hiiraale, and MR in general used Ethiopia to get their troops trained and are joning lots with the Kenyans.
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:46 am
by The`Republic
To be honest I can't wait until the official Kenya/Sierra Leone AMISOM mission starts. Not because I value foreign troops, but Ethiopia is just as bad as Al Shabaab to Somali interests. Once that starts, there will be zero legitimacy for Ethiopia to be in the region and the militias who listen to them will start to migrate to AMISOM bases.
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 am
by Murax
The`Republic wrote:To be honest I can't wait until the official Kenya/Sierra Leone AMISOM mission starts. Not because I value foreign troops, but Ethiopia is just as bad as Al Shabaab to Somali interests. Once that starts, there will be zero legitimacy for Ethiopia to be in the region and the militias who listen to them will start to migrate to AMISOM bases.
It hasn't started already?
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:59 am
by The`Republic
Not yet. They just had a preliminary fact finding group who are preparing deployment.
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:06 am
by Khalid Ali
What is the difference between Kenya and Ethiopia i don't think Ethiopia can be easily sidelined they are very deep in Somalia in the middle regions in the bay and bakool regions in gedo.
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:56 am
by The_Patriot
The`Republic wrote:If this report is true it tells me two things.
1. Kenya has totally abandoned hope of Azania formation.
2. Ethiopia and Barre Hiiraale have had irreconcilable differences.
Ethiopia was never genuine about free the south from AL Shabaab. They wanted to secure only the border districts and leave the interior to Shabaab so they could keep getting aid money in the name of fighting terrorism. Barre Hiiraale broke with them and as a result they had a falling out. This was a well publicized fracture and we knew of this.
What we didn't know (according to this report) is that Barre Hiiraale has been trying to reach an agreement with Kenya but the Kenyans were still hopeful about Azania. Now Kenya has faced the music and has reached a "good agreement" with Hiiraale that caused him and his staff to move to the southwestern border in Ceel-waaq according to Col Warfaa.
Maybe Barre is seeing an opportunity with the Kenya/Sierra Leone official peace keeping mission to start soon which will take responsibility away from Ethiopia throughout Gedo and Jubbas and is using his clout and support base to position himself as the Somali "partner" to the mandate.
http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/ ... ke_Kismayo

Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:21 pm
by skywalker25
The_Patriot wrote:The`Republic wrote:If this report is true it tells me two things.
1. Kenya has totally abandoned hope of Azania formation.
2. Ethiopia and Barre Hiiraale have had irreconcilable differences.
Ethiopia was never genuine about free the south from AL Shabaab. They wanted to secure only the border districts and leave the interior to Shabaab so they could keep getting aid money in the name of fighting terrorism. Barre Hiiraale broke with them and as a result they had a falling out. This was a well publicized fracture and we knew of this.
What we didn't know (according to this report) is that Barre Hiiraale has been trying to reach an agreement with Kenya but the Kenyans were still hopeful about Azania. Now Kenya has faced the music and has reached a "good agreement" with Hiiraale that caused him and his staff to move to the southwestern border in Ceel-waaq according to Col Warfaa.
Maybe Barre is seeing an opportunity with the Kenya/Sierra Leone official peace keeping mission to start soon which will take responsibility away from Ethiopia throughout Gedo and Jubbas and is using his clout and support base to position himself as the Somali "partner" to the mandate.
http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/ ... ke_Kismayo

"My pimp is better then your pimp" yaa Patriot.

Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:25 pm
by The_Patriot
no my ina igare is better than your ina igare

Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:32 pm
by OAF
Don't forget about Ahmed Madoobe though
There is more Absame in Ras Kamboni than Azania.
Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:48 pm
by grandpakhalif
Excellent strategic decision Colonel Barre, even Kenyans are starting to flock to you and seek your assistance.

Re: Col Warfaa: Hiiraale move due to "good agreement" w/ Ken
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:31 pm
by Colonel