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I wanted to ask you a question Axmed Madoobe the leader of the raskambooni forces in afmadow is supported by the Ogaden elements in the Kenyan government like the defense Minister and other heavyweight Ogaden politicians in Kenya. But now the Kenyan forces are under the Amisom Command how will it work will the raskambooni forces split from the Amisom forces ,we all know sharif axmed has a different agenda thats one question.The other one is Professor gandi and Ahmed madoobe are they allies or Is Gandi on a one man mission and Axmed madoobe is doing his thing also separately.

Thanks guys.

Good question khalid. Well let's talk about Kenya, Kenya has been under British colonie for a long time and the kenyans have been serving them big time, Kenya is like the best puppet of Britain. The Brits is also a friend with the Ethiopians but not as much friend as they are with Kenya. Amisom in East africa is under IGAD and mostly ran by Ethiopians but when Kenya came under Amisom was just a key to take over Kismayo with Ras Kamboni so Ethiopia can't do anything with it, Ethiopians won't dare messing with Kenya at all.
Ogadens made good tactics while other in the jubbas was stupid as goats, moaning around and thinking they gonna take over Kismayo while Ogadens are preparing for taking over the Jubbas with heavy weapons, thanks to Farah Malin and Yusuf Haji.
About Ras Kamboni and Azania, they are talking with each other so i don't know nothing more about that.

Find out the sub-clan of Gaandhi and compare it to Madoobe, then you have the answer to why Madoobe views Gaandhi the way he does.

insightful wrote:Find out the sub-clan of Gaandhi and compare it to Madoobe, then you have the answer to why Madoobe views Gaandhi the way he does.

Mind telling me what his sub sub clan is?

OAF wrote:Good question khalid. Well let's talk about Kenya, Kenya has been under British colonie for a long time and the kenyans have been serving them big time, Kenya is like the best puppet of Britain. The Brits is also a friend with the Ethiopians but not as much friend as they are with Kenya. Amisom in East africa is under IGAD and mostly ran by Ethiopians but when Kenya came under Amisom was just a key to take over Kismayo with Ras Kamboni so Ethiopia can't do anything with it, Ethiopians won't dare messing with Kenya at all.
Ogadens made good tactics while other in the jubbas was stupid as goats, moaning around and thinking they gonna take over Kismayo while Ogadens are preparing for taking over the Jubbas with heavy weapons, thanks to Farah Malin and Yusuf Haji.
About Ras Kamboni and Azania, they are talking with each other so i don't know nothing more about that.

Understood i know that the The Brits protect their Kenya to be honest Absame played good Politics since they are the Majority Somalis in the NFD region and all the MPS in kenya and deputy speaker are all absame they can use that influence, on Somalia and their tribal homelands in Jubaland. its better if Professor gandi and Ahmed Madoobe join forces united u stand stronger let Ahmed madoobe be the commander of the armed forces of the Azania forces and Gandi be the President its not good to go ur separate ways, there might be some clan differences between the two but that's an internal matter that needs to be solved there is not much time Kismayo can fall any moment in the next coming days or weeks. You just need to be ready to fill the vacuum, Sh sharif and his TFG troops will try to the work they will try to use Amisom forces for their gain , But since its Absame tribal homeland they need act quickly, no time should be wasted. You need one entity in the Juba's u have lots of advantage since u have huge territories in the lower juba u just need one command and one leadership. And everything will go as planned inshallah.

insightful wrote:Find out the sub-clan of Gaandhi and compare it to Madoobe, then you have the answer to why Madoobe views Gaandhi the way he does.

I know they belong to two different subclans Ahmed Madoobe Mohammad subeeer and Professor gandi Tolomoge but the bond between brothers is stronger than anything.

insightful wrote:Find out the sub-clan of Gaandhi and compare it to Madoobe, then you have the answer to why Madoobe views Gaandhi the way he does.

they are both Ogadens. this is not the problem.

My advise to all Absame: please, I kindly request we do NOT speak to non Absames with our politics. even other daroods. this idoor might seem like a friend, but their are our natural enemies.

another example is this person named insightful, look how he tells the idoor to compare ahmed and ghandi sub clans.

these are the enemies of your forefathers. do not discuss reer absame deep politics.

thank you.

khalid ali wrote:

insightful wrote:Find out the sub-clan of Gaandhi and compare it to Madoobe, then you have the answer to why Madoobe views Gaandhi the way he does.

I know they belong to two different subclans Ahmed Madoobe Mohammad subeeer and Professor gandi Tolomoge but the bond between brothers is stronger than anything.

Stop playing a nice guy, we know what this means.

Teeri you are right the Majeerteen are eternal enemies of the Absames as for the iidoors we were ancient rivals fighting over water-wells but that's all over, today its all about Interest an iidoor has no interest in Jubaland he is not securing clan interest in Somalia at all heck an iidoor is not even part of Somalia So he has no motives we can use our ancient rivalry in a positive way this is 2012 not the 18 century when were chasing camels and fighting for waterwells 90% of the Somali nomadic warfare and poetry and history for centuries was between our two tribes , we can use our history in a positive way to cooperate to secure both of our objectives , you know the Iidoors the best and the iidoors know the absames the best. Absame and iidoor interest never clash since we are not fighting over water wells and grazing land. Today its 2012 Absame Kenyans are our allies the best of the Somalis i consider with a gob culture Barre ilyaas and farah macalin are friends of ours. An Aazania state runned by Absames in Jubaland we welcome that it doesn't go against our interests

Teeri wrote:this idoor might seem like a friend, but their are our natural enemies.

another example is this person named insightful, look how he tells the idoor to compare ahmed and ghandi sub clans.

these are the enemies of your forefathers. do not discuss reer absame deep politics.

thank you.

Raageeddii Wakaa Ogadeenkii la yaqaanay.

Teeri

Khalid, all mps from Kenya are not absame but they are majority. Nfd have 12 mps 6 Ogaden, three degodia, 1 ajuran, 1 garre, 1 murule.

Marley1238 wrote:Khalid, all mps from Kenya are not absame but they are majority. Nfd have 12 mps 6 Ogaden, three degodia, 1 ajuran, 1 garre, 1 murule.

correction, there are 7 voted mps in parliament, one recent ouside of NFD, Yusuf hassan in nairobi, eastleigh, there are 11 Absame members of kenyan parliament. 5% of kenyan Mps are chosen by the president rather then voted for by the people.

12 Absame,

3 degodies,

1 ajuuraan,

1 garre, borona, 1 murrale,

4 out of 12 of the nations Marshal Generals, head of the Kenyan Secret service, defense minister high ranking civil staff. bloody hell, we are on our way to becoming Kenyans first muslim president


new constitution is gona be interesting, where we will have 3 out of 4 governors of the 4 NFD regions, new type of leadership and 11 out of 16 senators

Teeri wrote:

Marley1238 wrote:Khalid, all mps from Kenya are not absame but they are majority. Nfd have 12 mps 6 Ogaden, three degodia, 1 ajuran, 1 garre, 1 murule.

correction, there are 7 voted mps in parliament, one recent ouside of NFD, Yusuf hassan in nairobi, eastleigh, there are 11 Absame members of kenyan parliament. 5% of kenyan Mps are chosen by the president rather then voted for by the people.

12 Absame,

3 degodies,

1 ajuuraan,

1 garre, borona, 1 murrale,

4 out of 12 of the nations Marshal Generals, head of the Kenyan Secret service, defense minister high ranking civil staff. bloody hell, we are on our way to becoming Kenyans first muslim president


new constitution is gona be interesting, where we will have 3 out of 4 governors of the 4 NFD regions, new type of leadership and 11 out of 16 senators

there is a treat emerging in our near abroad, we welcome ogadeen pre-eminence in kenya and NFD but we can`t tolerate ogaden supremacy in kenya which means they will have blank check in terms of somali affairs

faraax macaalin iyo yusuf hassan

Why am i seeing Non Ogadens in this topic??

Gacmo wada jir ayey wax ku gooyaan, Azania can't walk the walk with out Ahmed Madoobe, and Iley. Soon they will work together with each other. In the meantime, ONLF will work on how to bring Mellez on his knees. It is rumored that referendum might happen within five years.

Things are not bad, and we need to be so close to our enemies, more than our natural allies.

Khalid, good to see you in this section. Don't mind those kids. They are learning how to talk.