Garre Claims On Our Farm.

[zingii]

I just found out the thugs that had our farm in their possesion are after all Garre. Since the collapse of the then central government and the last real government we had these Garre familiy squating on our farm land in MARKA. Clan wise we dont settle that area anymore and migrated to safe zones dominated by our kin. Though we have the owner ship paper that proves the land belongs to us these thugs are still squating and do not want to leave. They even went to the ninjas that are in control of the area puting claims on the land. Their argument is that we should have not gotten the land as it belonged to them and that the then government illegally gave it to us. The current clan dynamics do not favor our family but i am entertaining on going back and taking whats ours by force.

BTW, i didn't know these guys settled in MARKA and always thought it was a HAWIYE and BARAWANI town.

[Talo alle udaa]

The "ninjas" are good at settling these kind of disputes. Your family should have taken advantage of the special courts sessions by the alshabaab to settle land disputes.

[TheblueNwhite]

Take it by force.

[Turbulence]

I would not bother going there right now. Just wait till there is some kind of administration and then go for it. I am pretty sure you will get your property back. Who controls Marka now? Moryaan culture is what destroyed Somalia.

[Advo]

All the tuugin will use the "previous government stole it" card, You will get back ur property

[zingii]

What does the sharia say about squatting on other peoples property in terms of punishment?

[Awe]

In Somalia, where every clan has their own territory, I think they might have a proper case against you. First you need to tell us how your family acquired the land, did they purchase it from someone who previously owned the land? Also, how the previous owners acquired the land is also important, you just can't claim land and sell it.

Imagine this farm was in Somaliland, do you think you would get it back? What about Galmudug? Who are you kidding here, the only land you can claim back are the ones in Mogadishu, everything else waa unuka leh.

[Awe]

d/p

[zingii]

In Somalia, where every clan has their own territory, I think they might have a proper case against you. First you need to tell us how your family acquired the land, did they purchase it from someone who previously owned the land? Also, how the previous owners acquired the land is also important, you just can't claim land and sell it.

Imagine this farm was in Somaliland, do you think you would get it back? What about Galmudug? Who are you kidding here, the only land you can claim back are the ones in Mogadishu, everything else waa unuka leh.

As i heard their case is based on (UNUKAA LEH) while we on the other hand have papers that show we purchased it from the then government.

[Awe]

In Somalia, where every clan has their own territory, I think they might have a proper case against you. First you need to tell us how your family acquired the land, did they purchase it from someone who previously owned the land? Also, how the previous owners acquired the land is also important, you just can't claim land and sell it.

Imagine this farm was in Somaliland, do you think you would get it back? What about Galmudug? Who are you kidding here, the only land you can claim back are the ones in Mogadishu, everything else waa unuka leh.

As i heard the case is based on (UNUKAA LEH) while we on the other hand have papers that show we purchased it from the then government.

How convenient of the government to sell your family plots of land in the most fertile region of Somalia.

What if Aden Adde sold farm lands in Luuq to his own Hawiye, your qawiil would give it back right? I thought so too.

[Shirib]

I just found out the thugs that had our farm in their possesion are after all Garre. Since the collapse of the then central government and the last real government we had these Garre familiy squating on our farm land in MARKA. Clan wise we dont settle that area anymore and migrated to safe zones dominated by our kin. Though we have the owner ship paper that proves the land belongs to us these thugs are still squating and do not want to leave. They even went to the ninjas that are in control of the area puting claims on the land. Their argument is that we should have not gotten the land as it belonged to them and that the then government illegally gave it to us. The current clan dynamics do not favor our family but i am entertaining on going back and taking whats ours by force.

BTW, i didn't know these guys settled in MARKA and always thought it was a HAWIYE and BARAWANI town.

lol, u got both wrong. Marka is a Biimaal and reer marka cad cad town.

and oh yea forget about that land

[Shirib]

I would not bother going there right now. Just wait till there is some kind of administration and then go for it. I am pretty sure you will get your property back. Who controls Marka now? Moryaan culture is what destroyed Somalia.

Al Shabaab

[zingii]

I just found out the thugs that had our farm in their possesion are after all Garre. Since the collapse of the then central government and the last real government we had these Garre familiy squating on our farm land in MARKA. Clan wise we dont settle that area anymore and migrated to safe zones dominated by our kin. Though we have the owner ship paper that proves the land belongs to us these thugs are still squating and do not want to leave. They even went to the ninjas that are in control of the area puting claims on the land. Their argument is that we should have not gotten the land as it belonged to them and that the then government illegally gave it to us. The current clan dynamics do not favor our family but i am entertaining on going back and taking whats ours by force.

BTW, i didn't know these guys settled in MARKA and always thought it was a HAWIYE and BARAWANI town.

lol, u got both wrong. Marka is a Biimaal and reer marka cad cad town.

and oh yea forget about that land

Thx for the 411 but i also thought BARAWANI and CAD CAD as being one.

About the land, i dont think i'll be able to forget about it.

[zingii]

In Somalia, where every clan has their own territory, I think they might have a proper case against you. First you need to tell us how your family acquired the land, did they purchase it from someone who previously owned the land? Also, how the previous owners acquired the land is also important, you just can't claim land and sell it.

Imagine this farm was in Somaliland, do you think you would get it back? What about Galmudug? Who are you kidding here, the only land you can claim back are the ones in Mogadishu, everything else waa unuka leh.

As i heard the case is based on (UNUKAA LEH) while we on the other hand have papers that show we purchased it from the then government.

How convenient of the government to sell your family plots of land in the most fertile region of Somalia.

What if Aden Adde sold farm lands in Luuq to his own Hawiye, your qawiil would give it back right? I thought so too.

The government sold land to willing buyers and happened to be one of those fortunate enough to buy one. It seems you are in favor of MORYANISM and come off as being one that benefitted from the misfortune of others.

[Turbulence]

What if Aden Adde sold farm lands in Luuq to his own Hawiye, your qawiil would give it back right? I thought so too.

Forget giving it back they would not take it to begin with. Tons of farms and other properties in Gedo that belong to people from other clans are still being held by their original owners. Many of the owners sold their properties off since they had no interest of ever coming back while others have people keeping their land for them until they come back.

The thing is in Gedo the original residents did not get entirely displaced after the war since all the wars/fights in the region were between people of the same clan so there was no need to take other peoples land. In other places people from the country side with no belongings came to the big cities for the first after the war and settled in the first houses they could find and basically laid claim anything they could find.

Almost none of the people living in Marka today are original residents of Marka before the war. Moryaans from Galgaduud an members of other clans from the region's countryside make up the majority of Marka's population today. A lot of these people feel that these properties belong to them since they have held them and took care of them for almost two decades but with the way things are going right now they will eventually have to vacate these houses and farms whether they like or not. Law and order and moryaan culture cannot coexist.