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somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 am
by sahal80
he said
dadkan reer galbeedka ashahaadadaleen kamaqan, intakale waa ka muslim. this reminds me the words of the the innovator imam mahamed abdo who confirmed the civil nature of islam: i left behind muslims without islam and found here in the west islam without muslims.
the poet mustafa sheekh cilmi
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Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:24 am
by TheLoFather
and where is the poem?
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:24 am
by sahal80
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:29 am
by Somaliman50
abwaan mustafe
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:43 am
by sahal80
abakar20 wrote:
abwaan mustafe
he is a funny man hope you enjoy it.
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:35 am
by Arabmann
sahal80 wrote:he said
dadkan reer galbeedka ashahaadadaleen kamaqan, intakale waa ka muslim. this reminds me the words of the the innovator imam mahamed abdo who confirmed the civil nature of islam: i left behind muslims without islam and found here in the west islam without muslims.
the poet mustafa sheekh cilmi
[youtube]player_embedded&v=C1hzkwoYufU[/youtube]
I seriously question the validity of those personal opinions. I mean, you've lived in the West for a number of years, and I'm sure you've observed inhumane treatment, injustice, dishonesty, lying, ponzi scheme, abortion, infidelity, rape, hypocrisy, murder, abomination, racism, domestic violence, etc. You've also observed what the West did to Iraq, a country and people who didn't harm them. So, explain to me how the personal opinions of the poet and imam, that there's Islam and no Muslims in the West, that there are Muslims and no Islam in our country or origin-- are valid?
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:36 am
by qoraxeey
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:28 pm
by sahal80
Arabman wrote:sahal80 wrote:he said
dadkan reer galbeedka ashahaadadaleen kamaqan, intakale waa ka muslim. this reminds me the words of the the innovator imam mahamed abdo who confirmed the civil nature of islam: i left behind muslims without islam and found here in the west islam without muslims.
the poet mustafa sheekh cilmi
[youtube]player_embedded&v=C1hzkwoYufU[/youtube]
I seriously question the validity of those personal opinions. I mean, you've lived in the West for a number of years, and I'm sure you've observed inhumane treatment, injustice, dishonesty, lying, ponzi scheme, abortion, infidelity, rape, hypocrisy, murder, abomination, racism, domestic violence, etc. You've also observed what the West did to Iraq, a country and people who didn't harm them. So, explain to me how the personal opinions of the poet and imam, that there's Islam and no Muslims in the West, that there are Muslims and no Islam in our country or origin-- are valid?
Certainly the west don't kill his cadaans, running his nation democratically, uncorrubted institutions and so on. Basically the imam ment to say: publically and institutionally, the westren civil values are the same as the islamic values. So there is islam in the west without muslims and in the muslim countries there are muslims without islam.
Yes the west fights the global south and like any empire conqures and crushed those who dare to change the global inequality but we were talking how the west has democracy, equality within it.
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:44 pm
by Mondey
Qob tol maanu nihin ee qawmiyad dhan baanu nahay
Soomaali qoys ah oo qaran kaliya baan nahay
dad taariikh leh qoranoo hido qani ah leh baan nahay
qarniyaan soo jirno quruumahaan la simanahay
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:08 pm
by Arabmann
sahal80 wrote:Certainly the west don't kill his cadaans, running his nation democratically, uncorrubted institutions and so on.
Elaborate. Do you mean the West don't kill innocent people? What are a few examples of running a nation democratically? And do you mean there's no corruption in Western institutions?
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:26 pm
by sahal80
Arabman wrote:sahal80 wrote:Certainly the west don't kill his cadaans, running his nation democratically, uncorrubted institutions and so on.
Elaborate. Do you mean the West don't kill innocent people? What are a few examples of running a nation democratically? And do you mean there's no corruption in Western institutions?
doesn't kill his own people, all I said has to do much with the west from within. The corruption for them is embarrassment, they don't have to waite, they will be forced to quit unlike of our leaders.
Re: somali history summarized by one poet
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:58 pm
by Arabmann
sahal80 wrote:doesn't kill his own people, all I said has to do much with the west from within. The corruption for them is embarrassment, they don't have to waite, they will be forced to quit unlike of our leaders.
Anwar al-Awlaki was American, and his government killed him without even due process. Corruption in the banking system is the main factor of the recession afflicting USA and Europe. George Bush invaded Iraq during his first term, and instead of forcing him to quit, he was re-elected. The personal opinions of the poet and imam are fundamentally flawed.
