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Ethiopians discussing the origins and looks of Somalis

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A Marriage of Equals and the Role Eritreans Played

Engineer Ghirma
March 10, 2007


Dejazmach Afewerk W.S. General Aman M. Andom Ras Alula Aba Nega


Ethiopian History depends on who wrote it; and when it was written. I am not a
Historian; however I have read enough of Ethiopian history, as they say, to attempt
some damage! I have read for starters, that Queen Saba gave birth to her son Menelik I,
the son of the biblical King Solomon of Israel, in Asmara specifically on the banks of Mai
Bela River. Without venturing into the slippery slopes of Ethiopian History again, I can
point cautiously, to archeological findings within present day Eritrea which predate
Axum; or at least match it. One theory which may support the flight of Ethiopian
Monarchy from Medri Bahri (present day Eritrea) to Axum was the alleged constant
threat of incursions into Ethiopia from across the Erythrean Sea / Bahre Ertra / Red
Sea. The preferred Ethiopian sea port back then was Adulis/Zula.
If some Ferenj stranger half way around the world, asks you whether you are an
Ethiopian, trust me, you are an Ethiopian; regardless of which part of Ethiopia (Eritrea
included) you originate from! How many a time have we in the Diaspora, gazed at a
stranger in a foreign land, and said among ourselves: “yegnan ager sew ymeslal or
tmeslalech”? Often times the stranger(s) would acknowledge by smiling and nodding in
the affirmative, as if we read each other’s mind. What a feeling!
By far more battles in the defense of the Ethiopian Empire were launched from within
Eritrea than any other region. Be it against Egypt at Gundet and Gurae or against Italia
at Dogali, most of Ethiopia’s enemies met their fate inside Eritrea. Guess who fought in
those battles in most predominant numbers? Eritreans of course: By virtue of their
proximity, the local people knew the terrain of the battleground better than any other
group. Moreover, intelligence information about the invaders, made Eritrean contribution
towards victorious outcomes inevitable. The dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam had erected
a landmark depicting Ras Alula’s victory at Dogali; which was ironically, later demolished
by Isaias Afwerki.
Marriage among the different Ethnic groups had various objectives. One such objective
was for long distance traveling convenience. The idea was to provide accommodation
for family members during extended trips away from home; be it for business or for
pleasure. Significant population movements from one region to another were common. It
is recorded in Ethiopian History, for example, that the Gurage Nationality has its origins
in Gurae, in Akeleguzay (Eritrea). The Bilien people in Keren originated from Gojam.
The Adere Nationality in Harar originated from Seraye (Eritrea). The ancestors of the
people living in many areas of Asmara are from Tigrai; who accompanied Ras Alula
when he was Emperor Yohanes’ representative in Eritrea. One such area in Asmara is a
place called Tselot. The significance of Tselot is that it is common knowledge among
Eritreans, for being the ancestral home of Isaias Afwerki. Yes, Isaias Afwerki is Tigrawai!
Technically Isaias can be court-martialed for being a traitor (a joke)! Last but not least,
Somalis are said to have migrated from Hamasien. There is sufficient evidence of that,
which is reflected in the names of cities like Kebri Dehar within Somali State.
It is only befitting for the “Eritrean Nation” to rejoin the rest of Ethiopia’s “Nations
and Nationalities”. Eritrea gave us Zer’ay Deres; the man who went to battle on behalf
of Ethiopia single handedly; with only a sword as a weapon against the Fascist army in
Roma! Imagine that! Then there were Abraha Deboch and Moges Asgedom; young
men who challenged Italia’s Rodolfo Graziani and made a daring attempt to kill him in
Addis Ababa in 1937. Their gallant attempt rekindled the support of the League of
Nations for Ethiopia, which eventually led to the defeat of Italia. I am happy to hear that
plans are underway to build a monument in Addis Ababa in honor of the two Ethiopian
super-heroes.
In the field of diplomacy, few can rival Dr. Lorenzo Taezaz. Simply stated he was a
genius in all walks of life. He was Ethiopia’s Permanent Representative to the League of
Nations in Geneva during World War II. The following is a quote from Dr. Daniel
Kindie’s paper titled “Dr. Lorenzo Taezaz And The Italo-Ethiopian War (1935-1941)”:
“Lorenzo, who lacked neither ideals nor insight, successfully played several roles
as a pressman, diplomat, intelligence officer, agitator, and counselor, and
discharged his responsibilities with great distinction. In the process, he displayed
great fortitude and endurance. For no one can dispute the key role he played in
Ethiopia’s liberation. But more than most, Lorenzo’s commitment to duty must
have strengthened Haile Selassie’s faith in education.” To read the complete report
please go to [http://www.zikkir.com/ethiopianreview/?p=138].


A special mention is warranted for the great General Aman Michael Andom, the
darling of the Ethiopian Army; also known as the Desert Lion. General Aman Andom led
Ethiopian forces to the Korean war. He was the recipient of the highest honor, from the
UN for his accomplishments; and thereby brought honor to Ethiopia in the process.
General Aman is perhaps best remembered for his heroics in Ogadien in the early
sixties; much like the gallant Dejazmach Afewerk Wolde Semayat who led the
Ethiopian resistance army in the Ogadien during the Italian invasion in1935. General
Aman was elected by the Derg regime as its Chairman in 1974, primarily because of his
immense popularity within the then Third Army Division stationed in Harar. He was well
known for his fair mindedness; which was why he was opposed to the proposed
wholesale executions of the detained ex-Ministers and other dignitaries, belonging to
Emperor Haile Selassie’s regime; fifty-nine in all. The unwarranted executions took place
immediately after General Aman was killed.
General Aman was also opposed to escalating the conflict against the guerilla forces in
Eritrea; opting for a diplomatic solution to the problem. He was very popular among the
Eritrean people to the extent that he was perceived as a threat to ELF and EPLF on a
personal level. My Eritrean sources tell me that the people were beginning to turn
against the ELF and EPLF after General Aman’s elevation to Chaiman of the Derg. He
was a uniting force among all Ethiopians including Eritreans. For the record, if the
cowardly Mengistu Haile Mariam had not murdered General Aman Andom on November
23, 1974, after the latter’s brave last stand against Mengistu’s tanks, Eritrea’s “war of
liberation” would have been early on, nipped in the bud by Eritreans themselves!
In the context of Ethiopian Nations and Nationalities, Eritrean role has been significant
since the beginning of time. One without the other is unrealistic. The nationalities on
either side of the fictitious border must demand rectification of this egregious error in
our history. The idea that a border line drawn at Badme, Tserona, Zala’nbesa, Bure,
along Irob Land, or any other spot along the common border will separate Ethiopians on
either side permanently is a farce! It will never work! The time is now, to resolve this
nonsense, once and for all peacefully. The Eritrean people will do very well under
the Ethiopian Constitution

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Three of the above people Ras Alula, Afewerqi and Gen Amdom are from Tembien. Alula and Afewerqi are 100% Tembien but Aman is 50% Tembien from his mother side from outskirt of Abi Adi city called “Suqurti” his father is an Eritrean.

The Hamasien people were living in Awraja Hamassin way before Ras Alula came to govern Eritrea but the people in hamassien district are migrated from one sub district of Tanka Melash Tembein and almost all the name in every village of Hamassine are all the names in Tembien sub district names. You can go now and list all the names of every village and compare them to Tanka Melash Wereda of Tembien and they are the same names. The question you have to ask is who was there first the Tembien or Hamassien or are the Hamassien migrated to Tembien Tanka Melash woreda or Tembien woreda migrated to Hamassien and settled there and named the place after where they came from???

If the Adere of Harar were to come from Seraye how come the Harar look Arabs and yet the Seraye looks typical Gonder, Dembia???

Seraye are darker skin like the Adwa and their features are different than any other Tigray ethnic from both side of Mereb. You can say what ever you want but the truth and all the evidences by feature, height, skin color, attitudes, and other characteristic point to Gonder Dembia both Seraye and Adwa originally came from Dembia and settled in central Tigray known as Seraye and Adwa today.

I believe Adere are Egyptian heritage and they are nothing to do with Seraye.

Somali never came from Hamassien, there is nothing to point anything resembles to Hamassien and Somalis. After all, Somaliland look northern Ethiopia and Eritrea and the rest of Somalis look typical Kenyans ugly faces. The only thing Hamassine and Somalis have in common is both of them are fanatic and self-distractions people who hates their own identity and gave up their filthy [deleted] to the Italian masters. .

Bilen of Eritrea never originated from Gojam Agew because the Gojam Agew are totally different than the other Agew. Awi Agow are very much darker and uglier feature in Gojam, West and south west of Gonder than the Wag Himri Agew from Tembien Abergele, Soqota, Lasta Lalibela vicinities. The Bilen Eritrea are originated from Wag Himri from Abergele Tembein. You can go and ask the elders and will tell you their roots. Those are the only ethnic in Eritrea to tell proudly who they are and where they came from.

The rest of your talking point did not bother to follow them. The thread is a baseless trash.

The one thing I always fascinated about is how come the Hamassien exclusively migrated from just one sub district/Woreda of Tembien not any other woredas of Tembein???

What cause those people to flee as a clan of one exclusively Subdistrict??? The district is not barren land in Tembien, it is one of rich, brave and beautiful people born in it. Tanka Melash Woreda is the heart of Nobility of Tembein but those people migrated to Hamassien with out any other Woreda to join with them.
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that is not debating but insulting, the habashi rat is saying that Somalilanders look like the beautiful habashi while walaweyn is ugly and look like kenyans..... and that somalis are puppets for colonist powers
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Merset the Tigray look the Most cursed of all of Ethiopia the guy who was saying that was tigray melez zanawis folks.
These are his people they look cursed

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Somali never came from Hamassien, there is nothing to point anything resembles to Hamassien and Somalis. After all, Somaliland look northern Ethiopia and Eritrea and the rest of Somalis look typical Kenyans ugly faces. The only thing Hamassine and Somalis have in common is both of them are fanatic and self-distractions people who hates their own identity and gave up their filthy [deleted] to the Italian masters. .
Khalid you might as well just post this part the rest is useless, I bet reading the underlined part was the highlight of your day. :lol: :down:
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Who gives a funk what raw meat eating funkers think.
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Rabshoole we look nothing like that we look European or Arab dark white remember Somalilanders are dark white :D :up:
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Just read this one

quote] Somali never came from Hamassien, there is nothing to point anything resembles to Hamassien and Somalis. After all, Somaliland look northern Ethiopia and Eritrea and the rest of Somalis look typical Kenyans ugly faces. The only thing Hamassine and Somalis have in common is both of them are fanatic and self-distractions people who hates their own identity and gave up their filthy [deleted] to the Italian masters [/quote]

ertireans and other black africans sees the person whit darker skinn colour as ugly. ertirean and other habesha and most of soomalis want to be light skinned thats why they see darker people as ugly :down:
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khalid ali wrote:Rabshoole we look nothing like that we look European or Arab dark white remember Somalilanders are dark white :D :up:

so you believe europeans are more beutifull than black africans???? you selfhating waqooyi negro :sland: :lol: :sland: :down:
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
khalid ali wrote:Rabshoole we look nothing like that we look European or Arab dark white remember Somalilanders are dark white :D :up:

so you believe europeans are more beutifull than black africans???? you selfhating waqooyi negro :sland: :lol: :sland: :down:
We have the same genetics as Europeans Somalis have EU genetics balkan Yalaxow.
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Tigrayians :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: this fuckers cant even feed themself :lol:
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khalid ali wrote:Rabshoole we look nothing like that we look European or Arab dark white remember Somalilanders are dark white :D :up:
:lol: Thats more like it sxb, knew you would denounce that nonsense considering your birthplace :up:
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khalid ali wrote: We have the same genetics as Europeans Somalis have EU genetics balkan Yalaxow.

pls i but this in af soomaali!! war isku xishoo waxaas yaanan laguugu maqal sxb qaldaan. Somalida waa dad madoow afrikaan ah. europeans wax aan baniaadanimada aheeyn uu GENETICS ah naga dhaxeeya ma jirto..
Somalis in genetics are much closer to KUUKUUYU AND MASAAIs THEN ingriis cadde ( aqoonsigii somaliland) kuu soo waday.
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Dr yalaxow stop with this self hate Somalidu all look the same 15% of the Somali population look bantu the rest of the skinnies all look a like tall soft hair pointy nose and skinny they come in al sizes adigu laakin zaire baad nugu daraysa :lol:

We are from the Somalid race do you know the Somalid race?
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sxb being black is something nice. you had being brainwashed to believe black skinn is bad and white one is better.. you come from sub sahara Africa. and you are not related Russians or BALKANs. EE XISKU XISHOO midabka madoow waa okay ilaahaa sidaa kaa dhigay afrika kuugu abuuray waxba haka ordid...

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you see this picture 99% of this people all of them are normal dark skinned sub sahara Africans.. and black sub sahara Africans does not mean you have to be bantu speaking black or masaai. your a somali black African and be proud of it ..

if an arab or europeans if they look this people in that picture and you say this people are related to you than they do other black africans. they will just do :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: AND they will say Nooot :clap:

marka be proud of your black africannes. and balkan people wax aad isku tihiin ma jirto :down: suaashana waa whats good inaad sheegato BALKAN europeans ma iyagaa ka fiican NIGERIANS or kuukuuyus. or Tutsis bal kuwaas madoow ee afrikaanka kuula ah maa iska sheegatid.


this guys look like BALKANS more than MANDINGOS IN GAMBIA
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