ONLF and Liyu Polis

[Colonel]

As expected by many of us as well as experts in the domain Meles Zenawi is in his last stretch insha'Allah, May he be given a painful death and sent to the 7th level of hellfire AMIIN. As the dog weakens there is bound to be a power vacuum so what should be the policy of ONLF and Liyu Polis be?

I believe the Admiral is smart enough to reconcile with his counterpart Ina Iley but can the same be said about the latter? There's enough positions for both parties and I hope that we do not commit the same mistakes as the Hawiye that fought themselves after capturing Xamar. I believe Somalis from other tribes are more of an enemy to us than the weak Ethiopians and that our future wars will be fought in our Northern and Eastern borders as nobody wants the giant to awaken.

The last few month have been good to us verily Meles removal would be the cherry on the cake.

[bareento]

Mujaahid Iley is probably secretely preparing sthg: nthg is filtering out of his headquarters.
Many rumours are coming out about other friends of Mallas...

I believe Mujaahid is preparing sthg big;
Militarly he is the strongest Somali on Earth, he might copy ONLFs program and make them check mate and become
the acclaimed leader of somalis.Or he might become jingoist Ogadeni tribalist and instigate tribal war ...

Its funny but this mans decision can influence the fate of somalis for the coming 25 years

B.

[Teeri]

Mujaahid Iley is probably secretely preparing sthg: nthg is filtering out of his headquarters.
Many rumours are coming out about other friends of Mallas...

I believe Mujaahid is preparing sthg big;
Militarly he is the strongest Somali on Earth, he might copy ONLFs program and make them check mate and become
the acclaimed leader of somalis.Or he might become jingoist Ogadeni tribalist and instigate tribal war ...

Its funny but this mans decision can influence the fate of somalis for the coming 25 years

B.

absolutely right, this, if the US and the europeans dont allow a smooth ethiopians transitioned rule, then this will affect the whole of horn not just somalis.

i belive that tigras greatly fear a united amhara/oromo lead ethiopia, amharas and ormos seem to be on the saem level and tigras know they were dominated by previously oromo/amhara leaderships and in fact say were ruled by amhara for 1200 years, and know the amhara/oromo camps will traet them like dogs if they came back to power.

if the west allow it, then ethiopia will be broken up as an independent tigra is meles main interest, otherwise he would not have spend billions building up the tigar province.

if this happens, then Ogadeniya will be given the chance for refrendum, just to piss off the amharas, and maybe even give it to the oromos as to weaken the alliance between the Amharic and oromo.

if this happens, Moahmed subeer will unit ( onlf leader and iley both are), i believe sujui ogadens like the kenyan ogaden leadership in the kenyan government will make peace between the two, there is no other beef between moahmed subeer accept in how to fight ethiopia, there is no history of other beef, hence it will most likely be a smooth transition, and to be honest, how many ogadens will put their weapons down to enjoy live? many, if they have an independent country, there will be no appetite for war with in.

but how will somalia be affect specially all those tribes that supported Ethiopian aggression against absame? i believe idoor ( somalilanders) and majerteens in the ogadenia will suffer the most and most likely kicked out of their tribal lands, galti ogadens will definitely want to get revenge,

might we get a situation of a weak somalia divided by the Ogadens as it will border from Djibouti till NFD?

how about the oromos and ogadens? if there is an independent oromia, inshallah, will they sit down to solve their border differences? i believe so, both being Muslims and oromos wanting exports from the kismayo coast/ NFD coast, perhaps economic and cushtic cultural ties might solve this?

but whatever happens, if ethiopia breaks up, i promise that daroods will come back to somalia leadership with a monopoly of that never seen since the height of absame and harti sultans virtually ruled from jigjiga till Garisa/ bari till hobyo of a hundred years ago.

what about an independent tigra, how will they live with Eritrea right on its border? will Eritrea forget about meles and his tigra did, yet the Eritreans are themselves of the same kind as tigras, will they be the new somalia? constantly war as fathers on both sides still remember all those sons killed?

[bareento]

Thnks for ypur insight.

Wats Mohmuud Subeer, and Galti?
Galti is an insult in eastern oromo, it means those who entered a clan implying they are sheegattos
Wat plan do ONLF and Ina Iley have for non Ogadeni somalis?

As for Oromos and Ogadenis solving border issue in peaceful manners hahahaha u are funny ...ogadeen will attack us once we are amidst
our deadly fight with Habeshas. I think oromos should rather ally with non ogadeen people of Killil 5.

Rumours say that TPLF big shoots are at each others throat, OPDO trying to play the muslim card and EPDM as usual betting they will come out
as dominant.
Wat will be the next move of Mujaahid Iley concerning the federal government? Will he stick to TPLF, or try to get in touch with others?

Mujaahid Iley is the Man

B.

[Teeri]

Thnks for ypur insight.

Wats Mohmuud Subeer, and Galti?
Galti is an insult in eastern oromo, it means those who entered a clan implying they are sheegattos
Wat plan do ONLF and Ina Iley have for non Ogadeni somalis?

As for Oromos and Ogadenis solving border issue in peaceful manners hahahaha u are funny ...ogadeen will attack us once we are amidst
our deadly fight with Habeshas. I think oromos should rather ally with non ogadeen people of Killil 5.

Rumours say that TPLF big shoots are at each others throat, OPDO trying to play the muslim card and EPDM as usual betting they will come out
as dominant.
Wat will be the next move of Mujaahid Iley concerning the federal government? Will he stick to TPLF, or try to get in touch with others?

Mujaahid Iley is the Man

B.

Mohamed Subeer is the Ogaden group that lives in 6 of the 9 provinces, with Makahil and Bahgari they run the region as our Tolomoge/Cawlyahan cousins run parts of jubbaland and NFD. galti is the nick name of Ogadens from Ogadeniya, name given to them by their cousins in jubbaland and NFD. its like how an Australian might called a brit ' pomie'', or an American from the east is called a yanki by Alabama americans.

we will never attack our oromo muslim brothers, they are cushtics, know many absames married to oromos and are culturally the same as we are. i prefer them then even our so called darood cousins, what reason do we have to attack our oromo cousins? we shall never attack our brothers

there is a Mohamed Subeer sub clan named Reer Amadin, they have lived on the oromo border for 400 years, we have never attack each other.

of other somalis, lets not get things too twisted, we consider them as people who have moved with us and are welcomed. historically absame has welcomed them, given them refuge and wifes, taught them islamic way and will still be welcomed, but they are minority that came to our lands, they know, we know.

but the fact remains, the miniroties like sheekhal and gadson and so on will get their fair share of, the camel herders from the somali border looking for grazing land will still be alowed to graze their camels, but truth be told, can an Ogaden camel herder who goes to somaliland for grazing land lay claims on hargeysa, no, hence Ogadeniya will be shared by who actually lives where and who is a visitors.

Islamic sharia will be the law and even islam allows votes, voting is not haraam, putting man made constitution above Allah is haraam and hence Ogadenis can vote for a leader.

but the numbers stuck up like this: Ogaden is unanimous with 7 of the provinces, 100% ownership, no arguments about this, Jidwaq (absame) owns one and is the majority, hence the 9th one is dir/isse but still has ogadens and other absames living there ( abuskuul, weyten, balcad etc)

if islam allows votes and democracy is the by word of the 21st century, then absame will always lead the government, they are the majority, they shed blood for the lands, qalas.

about the name? firstly, it was not us that called it, it was named in berlin in 1884 because the brits were shocked at how everywhere they looked at the region, they fought ogadens, from dagaxbur till libaan, even if there was a vote, since Ogadens alone make up 85% of the population, i can bet it will most likely stay the same or be changed to Absamia, to make Ogadens absame brothers happy.

[skywalker25]

Teeri, the Hawd regions and any areas inhabited by Isaaq will be absorbed into Somaliland. The Ogaden can have everything that belongs to them as part of their new country, however not a single land belonging to us will be ruled by a dumb cagdheer.

[Teeri]

Teeri, the Hawd regions and any areas inhabited by Isaaq will be absorbed into Somaliland. The Ogaden can have everything that belongs to them as part of their new country, however not a single land belonging to us will be ruled by a dumb cagdheer.

lol, dumb idoor, all foreign camel herders will be kicked out.

[skywalker25]

Teeri, the Hawd regions and any areas inhabited by Isaaq will be absorbed into Somaliland. The Ogaden can have everything that belongs to them as part of their new country, however not a single land belonging to us will be ruled by a dumb cagdheer.

lol, dumb idoor, all foreign camel herders will be kicked out.

We know how to deal with you guys and it usually involves you losing land and us gaining land.....

[bareento]

Mujaahid Teeri,

Wats the meaning of the word Galti ?
It seems u consider almost non ogadeni living in Ogadenia as guests.
I dont know whether u really believe this or its just Snet postures, but ideas like this might oblige others to view your organisation as part
of their problems.
R u sure u represent 85% of the population?

As for Mujaahid Ileys reactions to the current situation I think it depends on how much ONLF infiltrated his organizations;
If onlf has deeply infiltrated Ileys party they can bring them wherever they want.
TPLF is infiltrated, OPDO too, but EPDM is myterious and no one knows wat will be their reactions, no one paid attention to them and planted
infiltrators in them.I think the same might be true of Ileys organisation.

Anyway I wish the best for ogadenis, their sufferings have to come to an end.

B.

[bareento]

Thnk u Skywalker,

From wat u write it seems non ogadeen somalis living Killil5 are not for Ogadenias independance, or even a federated ogadenia in democratic ethiopia.
why is it so? tribal jingoism? historical reasons? love of chaos?

Care to explain,

B.

[metamorphosis]

An agreement must take place between the two men and this is a must regardless of their political agendas for ogadenia. If iran and israel can sit at one table and negotiate then so can we because we have a lot more in common. Unless iley wants to see ogadenia ruled again under another axmaar then he better have serious talks with the admiral. On the contrary, if the admiral wants to see the prolonged ONLF halgan to turn into reality then he must have talks with iley. The last thing we want is division. That could mess up everything and advantage could be and will be easily taken. I hope they both understand that this bigger than them both. This is about freeing the millions of somalis oppressed. The is about giving somalia a land it lost 110 years ago back. This is about erasing the boarders of ethiopia that it shares with somalia. All somalis should support us because with us ruling ogadenia somalia has just gained a new ally. A new somali muslim ally that knows ethipia well. We have protected the somalis from being invaded by axmaars for centuries because we stood directly in the middle between the two countries and inshallah it is time those glory days have returned.

[Faranacab]

You all need to relax and prepare for Ramadan, as you not making sense. Just leave the politics for the real politicians, and take break from Snet.

Just my two cents!

[Colonel]

^ Yes you have the world's third strongest army the leaders of Africa who have dominated Somali politics from the get go and are now ruling Ethiopia by proxy.

Now go back to your qaldaan section oh conqueror of mankind.

[skywalker25]

^ Yes you have the world's third strongest army the leaders of Africa who have dominated Somali politics from the get go and are now ruling Ethiopia by proxy.

Now go back to your qaldaan section oh conqueror of mankind.

We dont have the worlds strongest army, but then again, we dont need to be third/forth or fifth best to defeat you.

[Colonel]

Mashallah you send terror through my limbs