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So I was talking to one of my friends and he was showing me some girl on his phone I then told him Ramadan is close and that we should fear Allah. the guy said, "ramadan is not me" I then asked him to clarify his statement and he said only munafiqs act good for ramadan and the rest of the year they don't. So the guy had a valid point, either be good the whole year or be bad the whole year,

I was like, good point.

so are you saying we dont need to fast in ramadan and chasse girls and do all danbi we use to do the other months ??? shame on you

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:so are you saying we dont need to fast in ramadan and chasse girls and do all danbi we use to do the other months ??? shame on you

No i am not saying that, of course you should fast full ramadan, but some people like this guy he is tired of SOmalis saying istaqhfurallah to him even though they used to be like him outside of ramadan.

Actually me and a friend were talking about this couple days. We both noticed how some people get negative by implying certain people only think about faith during Ramadan. We both agreed at least being good for a month is better than being "bad" the entire year. Akhii your friend just sounds like he wants an excuse not to be beholden to faith even during that holy month. Even if he gets seduced by Shaitain during the whole year, tell him to have some shame and respect Allah during that holy month.

What is munaafaq is saying I will refuse to recognize Allah even during his holy month just because I didn't pray the months before.

[quote="The`<a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">Republic</a>"]Actually me and a friend were talking about this couple days. We both noticed how some people get negative by implying certain people only think about faith during Ramadan. We both agreed at least being good for a month is better than being "bad" the entire year. Akhii your friend just sounds like he wants an excuse not to be beholden to faith even during that holy month. Even if he gets seduced by Shaitain during the whole year, tell him to have some shame and respect Allah during that holy month.

What is munaafaq is saying I will refuse to recognize Allah even during his holy month just because I didn't pray the months before.[/quote]

Why should he respect Allah only during the holy month and continue his bad deeds after? Isn't this shirk (attaching fear of God to one month), is God not apparent during the rest of the year? You might as well be worshipping ramadan!

Don't logically deduce faith.

The prophet said:

Whoever fasts during Ramadan with faith and seeking his reward from Allah will have his past sins forgiven. Whoever prays during the nights in Ramadan with faith and seeking his reward from Allah will have his past sins forgiven. And he who passes Lailat al-Qadr (the Night of Power) in prayer with faith and seeking his reward from Allah will have his past sins forgiven - (Bukhari, Muslim).

Abu Huraira related that the Prophet said: Allah the Majestic and Exalted said: "Every deed of man will receive ten to 700 times reward, except Siyam (fasting), for it is for Me and I shall reward it (as I like). There are two occasions of joy for one who fasts: one when he breaks the fast and the other when he will meet his Lord" (Muslim).

Let us establish couple things:

1. Ramadan is not like any other month.
2. Prayer in Ramadan is not like any other prayer.
3. Blessings and ajar on Ramadan is not like any other.
4. Forgiveness in Ramadan is not like any other forgiveness.

The prophet said cursed those who meet Ramadan and do not get their sins forgiven because it is so hard not to have your sins forgiveness during Ramadan. The prophet also said the prayer on Friday will have yours sins forgiven from last Friday after and a good Ramadan will have your sins forgiven from last Ramadan after.

The person, your friend or anyone else, is susceptible to many things of which we cannot deduce such as low iman, weak soul, no a lot of discipline, giving into Shaitan, etc but by virtue of recognizing Ramadan and becoming a faithful person during that time the person has hope of becoming a good Muslim. Why try to judge the person and prevent them from even the opportunity presented to them by Allah (Swt) through Ramadan and rather push them into a corner with a deduction that is so rigid and uncompromising?

If the logic is made by a person such as your friend, then too bad for him because he is just trying to convince himself to continue on his path of fasiqnimo even during Ramadan.

Next time base your rationale on what Islam actually says and leave philosophy to the side. God's mercy and blessings are beyond human philosophy.

The`Republic wrote:Actually me and a friend were talking about this couple days. We both noticed how some people get negative by implying certain people only think about faith during Ramadan. We both agreed at least being good for a month is better than being "bad" the entire year. Akhii your friend just sounds like he wants an excuse not to be beholden to faith even during that holy month. Even if he gets seduced by Shaitain during the whole year, tell him to have some shame and respect Allah during that holy month.

What is munaafaq is saying I will refuse to recognize Allah even during his holy month just because I didn't pray the months before.

Not to mention just by being pious and sincere for that month may change your life for good. Ramadan might be the cause of a good metamorphosis. don't observe it and you might have lost a chance at salvation, you have definitely lost the chance to meet laylatul qadar which is better than any good deed you'd do in 1000 months. what's better than that?

Yes, yes that's all fine and dandy (as if I didn't know those texts) but the brother has made a valid point. Why should he be judged by others who only restrain themselves for one month? Isn't it a bit hypocrytical and in fact unislamic for a repeat sinner to judge another simply because he continues his routine deeds? Would he not be a munafiiq for fasting simply because everyone else? I am sure God would not want someone to do things for the sake of the people, instead of staying true to his sinful nature.

Riyaa or (showing off) is a form of shirk.

grandpakhalif wrote:Yes, yes that's all fine and dandy (as if I didn't know those texts) but the brother has made a valid point. Why should he be judged by others who only restrain themselves for one month? Isn't it a bit hypocrytical and in fact unislamic for a repeat sinner to judge another simply because he continues his routine deeds? Would he not be a munafiiq for fasting simply because everyone else? I am sure God would not want someone to do things for the sake of the people, instead of staying true to his sinful nature.

Riyaa or (showing off) is a form of shirk.

This has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I was talking about 1.) why your friend is wrong for thinking it is hypocritical to practice Ramadan if you have not practiced all year and 2.) why it is wrong for anyone to judge a person who seems to "change" during Ramadan.

Wasallam.

Well if he doesn't want to fast during Ramadan that's his decision, its better than those who fake it in order to please to people.

grandpakhalif wrote:Yes, yes that's all fine and dandy (as if I didn't know those texts) but the brother has made a valid point. Why should he be judged by others who only restrain themselves for one month? Isn't it a bit hypocrytical and in fact unislamic for a repeat sinner to judge another simply because he continues his routine deeds? Would he not be a munafiiq for fasting simply because everyone else? I am sure God would not want someone to do things for the sake of the people, instead of staying true to his sinful nature.

Riyaa or (showing off) is a form of shirk.

Grandpa, what you are sugar coating is something that is ugly and bitter. Your friend has no values and is far from God. He is using other people as a red herring to justify his wickedness and to look better. And in truth he is committing riya by showing off that he won't let himself be beholden to the standards of others let alone the wicked people, how sick is that mentality. It's like an adulterer who commits adultrey in the open as oposed to indoors. This person is really making themselves clear to the people that they have very little restrictions. How dangerous is that. And how can anyone respect the one with little inhibitions when the height of culture, civilizations, and religion is the one with the most inhibitions.

This is how I see this reality.

He was right, surely it's hypocrisy for ppl to pray, recite quran, wera hijaab, no swearing etc during ramadana and quite all that soon after it ends.

Ramadan is a month to enhance your imaan and ur already good deeds like reading more quran and praying more salat etc not a month of hypocrisy and deception.

al hamdulillah im not one of them, i do in ramadan exactly what i do every other day only do it more.

Good for him; that man deserves to be congratulated. There is nothing more wrong than being fake.