Why were the russians never allowed to take constantinople?

[Eaglehawk]

During the Crimean war a joint Franco, Anglo and Turkish forces stopped the Russians from taking Constantinople.
There is even a British poem about how the British would not allow their fellow Christians to take Constantinople from the Muslim Turks

Some might say it’s just geo politics and the British we practising good old British balance of power but I believe it’s deeper than that.
I think it has historic basis in the animosity between orthodox Christian and western Christianity and also in Slavic versus Germanic.
Why do the westerns fear the Slavic/ orthodox Christians more then they fear the Muslims?

Macdermott's War Song

The "Dogs of War" are loose and the rugged Russian Bear,
All bent on blood and robbery has crawled out of his lair...
It seems a thrashing now and then, will never help to tame...
That brute, and so he's out upon the "same old game"...
The Lion did his best... to find him some excuse...
To crawl back to his den again. All efforts were no use...
He hunger'd for his victim. He's pleased when blood is shed...
But let us hope his crimes may all recoil on his own head...

Chorus:
We don't want to fight but by jingo if we do...
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money too!
We've fought the Bear before... and while we're Britons true,
The Russians shall not have Constantinople...
The misdeeds of the Turks have been "spouted" through all lands,
But how about the Russians, can they show spotless hands?
They slaughtered well at Khiva, in Siberia icy cold.
How many subjects done to death we'll ne'er perhaps be told.
They butchered the Circassians, man, woman yes and child.
With cruelties their Generals their murderous hours beguiled,
And poor unhappy Poland their cruel yoke must bear,
While prayers for "Freedom and Revenge" go up into the air.

(Chorus)
May he who 'gan the quarrel soon have to bite the dust.
The Turk should be thrice armed for "he hath his quarrel just."
'Tis said that countless thousands should die through cruel war,
But let us hope most fervently ere long it shall be o'er.
Let them be warned: Old England is brave Old England still.
We've proved our might, we've claimed our right, and ever, ever will.
Should we have to draw the sword our way to victory we'll forge,
With the Battle cry of Britons, "Old England and St George!"

[LobsterUnit]

i am doing an 18 hour fast. this is too much thinking.

[sahal80]

but who were ruling constantinople? the same great muslim sultans? no. it was sultan salimIII who was rationalist and before they could help him it was him who started attacking russia to help napoleon.
salim fought againist mamluks in egypt, he imposed the macedonian mahamed ali basha in there, he walcomes napoleon army in egypt. they both have sent students into france and when they came back they fought the deen calling themselves al nahda.
it was about emerors vs emperors, the emperor alexender vs the emperror napoleon. the sultan salim has recognized westernazation and to atay along the europian lines.
this is why turky has joined the NATO againist the warsaw during the kamal ataturk leadership.
yeah it was a geopolitics.

[Eaglehawk]

but who were ruling constantinople? the same great muslim sultans? no. it was sultan salimIII who was rationalist and before they could help him it was him who started attacking russia to help napoleon.
salim fought againist mamluks in egypt, he imposed the macedonian mahamed ali basha in there, he walcomes napoleon army in egypt. they both have sent students into france and when they came back they fought the deen calling themselves al nahda.
it was about emerors vs emperors, the emperor alexender vs the emperror napoleon. the sultan salim has recognized westernazation and to atay along the europian lines.
this is why turky has joined the NATO againist the warsaw during the kamal ataturk leadership.
yeah it was a geopolitics.

ya ku yiri xawadle ba cimi iyo tariq ka hadli kara..aduunyo, war ileen tano kale

[sahal80]

but who were ruling constantinople? the same great muslim sultans? no. it was sultan salimIII who was rationalist and before they could help him it was him who started attacking russia to help napoleon.
salim fought againist mamluks in egypt, he imposed the macedonian mahamed ali basha in there, he walcomes napoleon army in egypt. they both have sent students into france and when they came back they fought the deen calling themselves al nahda.
it was about emerors vs emperors, the emperor alexender vs the emperror napoleon. the sultan salim has recognized westernazation and to atay along the europian lines.
this is why turky has joined the NATO againist the warsaw during the kamal ataturk leadership.
yeah it was a geopolitics.

ya ku yiri xawadle ba cimi iyo tariq ka hadli kara..aduunyo, war ileen tano kale

this is what they call quursi mareexaan
atleast we got culimo cabdalle subclan. my subclan cabdi yusuf are business men, farmers and religious men. not typical hawadles i was making this thread about some of them.
viewtopic.php?f=290&t=310564&p=3730095#p3730095

[Meseret]

Living in a Germanic country for more than 20 years I have learned that Germanic nations consider eastern europeans for sub humans

[Alphanumeric]

Man I love reading history. So far from what I can tell, it seems like the cause of war can be placed in the hands of Napolean III, who broke some treaty.

[grandpakhalif]

the russians were not allowed to take constantinople because if you control that you control the black sea and entrance to the Mediterranean. obviously during the cold war this would have been catastrophic for the NATO alliance.

[Eaglehawk]

Man I love reading history. So far from what I can tell, it seems like the cause of war can be placed in the hands of Napolean III, who broke some treaty.

you seem quite intelligent person ma marexaan ba reer abti ku ah?
I have my own theory of somali intelligence, you would fit well in my theory

[Eaglehawk]

the russians were not allowed to take constantinople because if you control that you control the black sea and entrance to the Mediterranean. obviously during the cold war this would have been catastrophic for the NATO alliance.

you right about the strategic importance of Constantinople but we are talking during the age of empires in the 1850`s.

[Shirib]

the russians were not allowed to take constantinople because if you control that you control the black sea and entrance to the Mediterranean. obviously during the cold war this would have been catastrophic for the NATO alliance.

wrong time period my friend.

[Alphanumeric]

Man I love reading history. So far from what I can tell, it seems like the cause of war can be placed in the hands of Napolean III, who broke some treaty.

you seem quite intelligent person ma marexaan ba reer abti ku ah?
I have my own theory of somali intelligence, you would fit well in my theory