Dangers of working in a banking branch

[ZubeirAwal]

From Jabir (ra): The Prophet (pbuh) cursed the receiver and the payer of riba, the one who records it and the two witnesses to the transaction and said: "They are all alike [in guilt]." [Sahih al-Muslim, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Bahiqi and Musnad Ahmad]

Making a loan where the loaner loans you money on interest is haram on the one receiving the loan, and the one giving the loan, and the one sitting in the bank recording it.

Riba today has gone worldwide, you can find it in every corner of the earth, even Islamic banks decieve muslims and riba is used in Islamic banks without muslims even knowing it.

[blackstars25]

you're talking about the dangers of working in banks when in fact having a bank account is just as worse. when you deposit money in your bank, your bank uses that money to finance other loans, pay interest etc. you have no control over this and that's just how banks work. and i bet you have a bank account, such a hypocrite.

[ZubeirAwal]

you're talking about the dangers of working in banks when in fact having a bank account is just as worse. when you deposit money in your bank, your bank uses that money to finance other loans, pay interest etc. you have no control over this and that's just how banks work.

The least you can do is the best you can do.

Usury leaves you in poverty and it is a deliberate enslavement of mankind.

The genius of the prophet (saw) is that at his time ribba was not heard of and he knew in the future it will be globalized , even the last verse of the qur'an was dedicated to riba.

[KimJongIllest]

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

[ZubeirAwal]

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

Recognising our faults and asking Allah for forgiveness is all we can do, it was a trap by the british colonialists who set out to every corner in the world replacing the coins that had intrinsic value with paper with no intrinsic value at all.

[blackstars25]

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

if we can't get rid of it then why is it a major sin?

how can you have a modern economy that isn't governed by interest?

or is islam content with us living in a 7th century caravan economy?

[ZubeirAwal]

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

if we can't get rid of it then why is it a major sin?

how can you have a modern economy that isn't governed by interest?

or is islam content with us living in a 7th century caravan economy?

You can live in a society where you don't need paper as a currency and where usury is forbidden.

That is a society where you can't find a poor man on the street.

[blackstars25]

i'm dying to know which society/country you are speaking of.

[ZubeirAwal]

i'm dying to know which society/country you are speaking of.

I said A society, it something possible, do you seriously believe the survival of humanity depends on this current global secular system that we have today?

[KimJongIllest]

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

if we can't get rid of it then why is it a major sin?

how can you have a modern economy that isn't governed by interest?

or is islam content with us living in a 7th century caravan economy?

Allah knows best. You have to understand that Islam was brought to us so long ago. It won't address the problems and issues of today since those were not the problems of that time at such a widespread level. Back then, interest was not only avoidable but also not that widespread. It was the norm to get interest free loans.

Use your best judgement. Instead of taking out a loan for school, work full time in the summers or take off a year to save it all. Instead of getting a brand new car from the dealer, buy a used one at a price you can afford.

God is fair, remember that. So fair that your mind can't comprehend his fairness. He will look at the situation. Its not literal man. If everything was to be taken at face value, there would be no need for the Day of Judgement. Why would God need to judge you if everything was to be taken at face value? There is a Day of Judgement so God can judge your actions whether they were reasonable or understandable.

Its impossible to avoid riba in the West. Literally impossible

What we can do is try to limit it but we can't get rid of it completely from our lives

Recognising our faults and asking Allah for forgiveness is all we can do, it was a trap by the british colonialists who set out to every corner in the world replacing the coins that had intrinsic value with paper with no intrinsic value at all.

Allah knows best. If we aren't sure, stay away. Everything else will be judged by our most Fair Lord

[blackstars25]

@Abuikar was about to write a long as paragraph but.....whatever man. if superstition is your thing then i guess no amount reasoning can do anything.

[ZubeirAwal]

Kim, i disagree sxb, despite the Qur'an being revealed 1400 years ago , their are tons of verses in the Qur'an that were meant to reach people at a specific time.

Quran speaks of history, present, and the future

For example:

“O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.”

this verse was revealed 1400 years ago, at that time.

No where in earth i repeat no WHERE IN EARTH, was there a christian that was friends with a jew, these groups had the most utmost hate for each other and couldn't stand each other.

But today you have the Judeo-Christian Alliance known as Zionists, Joe biden a self-proclaimed Zionist himself tells that you don't have to be a jew to be a zionist.



The Qur'an does many things, and among those it anticipates events and fore-warns muslims about them, to be vigiliant and aware to not fall into the traps of deception.

Many muslim nations today made that forbidden alliance and do not know it.

My point is , the book if for all times.

[KimJongIllest]

Saxiib I'm not going to insult you like the other people do over those who have lost faith.

I was like you. I doubted everything and even claimed atheism for a bit. I remember I was in the middle of a Islam forum mocking them when the Earth below me shook. An Earthquake happened. Nothing big but a 5.0 magnitude. I remember me saying that there was no proof of God right before it happened. Literally seconds

I am certain your own heart dropping and scary experience will occur. I thank Allah and I seek his forgiveness everyday. He did it because he hated to see his creation walk away from him. I might not be a sheikh but alhamduillah I never miss my prayers

Your in denial and confusion now but I promise you things will change for the better. This phase happens to everyone.

[blackstars25]

Allah knows best. You have to understand that Islam was brought to us so long ago. It won't address the problems and issues of today since those were not the problems of that time at such a widespread level. Back then, interest was not only avoidable but also not that widespread. It was the norm to get interest free loans.

so KimJongillest you concede that islam was revealed many centuries ago and many of its laws and customs were based on that time, and that some of it just can't be adhered to in todays world.

but the problem lies in the fact islam claims to be an eternal revelation for all of mankind.

doesn't this ban on interest thing show a complete lack of foresight on the part of its authors for how future economies/society would be governed?

[blackstars25]

Saxiib I'm not going to insult you like the other people do over those who have lost faith.

I was like you. I doubted everything and even claimed atheism for a bit. I remember I was in the middle of a Islam forum mocking them when the Earth below me shook. An Earthquake happened. Nothing big but a 5.0 magnitude. I remember me saying that there was no proof of God right before it happened. Literally seconds

I am certain your own heart dropping and scary experience will occur. I thank Allah and I seek his forgiveness everyday. He did it because he hated to see his creation walk away from him. I might not be a sheikh but alhamduillah I never miss my prayers

Your in denial and confusion now but I promise you things will change for the better. This phase happens to everyone.

KimJongIllest, how do you know it wasn't a coincidence?

how did you relate an earth quake as a sign god was telling you to behave?

so if you happened to be masturbating in your room that day when the earth quake happened, would that be a sign god was telling you to get married?