Our neighbors (s)election.

[skywalker25]

How do you think it effects us and what do you see Somalilnd gaining or losing in the new change thats hopefully in the pipeline for our friends from next door?

I personally could not have wished for a better out come and most command the Abgaals for playing a very good game with a perfect execution. They made everyone believe that Shiekh Bantu Red lips was the main man but had something special up their sleeve. In the end 3 of the final 4 were abgaals with a single lonely Majerteen in the race. The noisy Farmaajo supporters have been silenced for another 4 more years. A fitting way for people that are clearly far from nationalist but who seem to confuse the term tribalist and a nationalist. To these people supporting your tribal leader equals being a nationalist. These are the same people who claim that every group in the south is controlled by warlords accept their own. To them their warlords are statesman and everyone elses, plain warlords. Even if they have been looting a city that they occupy by force and run it through the gun with no admin or law and order.

The second group im happy to have lost is the pesky peasents with the many different alphebtical names SSC/Darwisg/Khatumo/whateva. I am glad they lost for the simple fact that these people are another group who confuse their own tribal interest and a nations interest. These peopl hate Somaliland for the simple reason that its Isaaq and no matter what they tell none isaaqs, thats the simple truth. All this hot air they blowing about Somali unity and they hate Somaliland because it wants to seperate are stories for kids. I'm glad the Hawiye see through these fools intentions and do not fall for their kindergatten tricks...


His a toast to you Abgal. They can call you a donkey all they want but wallahi you played the game of your life. 4 cheers and another 4 years of being king of your own house.....

[SahanGalbeed]

I am with you .

[SultanOrder]

I think President will bring a legitimacy to our new government. This will have an adverse effect on the secessionist views both indirectly and directly. You are not dealing with an incompetent, corrupt, transitional government, and incapable leader. His stance on Somaliland is very clear; he wishes to continue the unity talks, and will not compromise for secession. The ball is in your court Somaliland, but let's just wait a few years before we get down to business, our number one priority is putting out the fire in our house. In the meantime, let us work together to bring about positive change in the region. Cooperation, consultation, and compromise.

As for your tirade against a certain clan, we are exuberant about the change, and we support the new government and leader. We are nationalists and put country first. Just because we are national figures doesn't make us tribalists. And it was two abgals, 1 mj, and 1 murursade.

[SahanGalbeed]

The ball is in your court Somaliland, but let's just wait a few years before we get down to business, our number one priority is putting out the fire in our house.

The ball is in your court , iyo , let's wait , waa contradictory statements ma'ogtahay ?
marna soo ciyaar , marna i yara sug is ma'laha
anyway I agree with this

In the meantime, let us work together to bring about positive change in the region. Cooperation, consultation, and compromise.

[Babygirl-]

Atleast corner isku maan soo qufuliin sidi dhociil cuqdaad qabtaa, I am part of Somaliweyn & Xamar is my Capital Hawiye waan is qabsana is dilana & same to Darood & Dir, but at the end of the day, I will not ran away from them or Somalinimo.

[SultanOrder]

The ball is in your court, because our position is clear, NO SECESSION! Now, how Somaliland will react to that, and what compromises they are willing to make is up to them. There will be no force union, but there needs to be things straightened out. Khatuumo is a recognized Somali state, their mp's are in our government, and so we must come to a fair resolution of who will have sovereignty, Somalia or Somaliland governments. We will ask Somaliland as best as we can to rethink their current course of action, and it is up to them to choose.

SahanGalbeed, you have shown yourself to be one who can see the bigger picture, and know our position among the nations around us. We have Giants like Ethiopia and Kenya, that we nowhere are close to their size and population, even if you were to bring all the Somali people under one umbrella. The biggest threat is that we will be dominated economically and not militarily. This is more evident with how far we lag behind in infrastructure, finance, education, and development. They are all in a rat race to be the ones who benefits the most from the 21st century. Splintering ourselves will only weaken our position, and make us more easily dominated. If we think there is too much interference from neighboring states, wait until the future. That is why a united Somali Republic is an existentialist necessity. Forget who rules where, let us have an emirates type of deal, so long as we can have a strong voice in international matters. If I were to make Xamar's policy towards Hargeisa, it would not be seeking to rule Hargeisa, but to bring about a workable relationship, sharing the same name internationally. Cooperation, consultation, and compromise.

21 years and now you guys are starting to talk to Xamar, can Somaliland afford to wait 21 more years for recognition?

[Siciid85]

skywalker25 it has certainly silenced the undesirables. Congratulation to beesha Mudulood/Hawiye, i have always shared the vision of a Hawiye
dominated Somalia, a Dir dominated Djibouti and a Isaaq dominated Somaliland.

[SahanGalbeed]

I think just like the rest of your dooros borthers and sisters you talk too much
You are in no position to dictate anything today , that's a fact
I have made my position clear . If the Somalis build up a multi tribal federal country then we have no reason NOT to be part of it , khalas .

[SultanOrder]

skywalker25 it has certainly silenced the undesirables. Congratulation to beesha Mudulood/Hawiye, i have always shared the vision of a Hawiye
dominated Somalia, a Dir dominated Djibouti and a Isaaq dominated Somaliland.

Darood vs Irir miyaa?

Idoor once loved a Darood Preident, Darood can accept a hawiye president given he does a good job. At the end of the day, we are and will always be relevant national figures.

I think just like the rest of your dooros borthers and sisters you talk too much
You are in position to dictate anything today , that's a fact
I have made my position clear . If the Somalis build up a multi tribal federal country then we have no reason NOT to be part of it , khalas .

Khalas, now we have to convince the Somaliland people. Now let us wait for a few years before we can get down to business.

[SahanGalbeed]

Haddaad aamusi waydo , hadaladaadi halkan inoo yaal ood soo qortay maalinti dhaweed e marki mareexanka daawaha la yara saaray baan ku hor keeni doona hadda is ilaali .
Anigeygan ku la hadlayaad igu tidhi waxaan taageraya gooni isu taagga Somaliland .Waxa kaa yeedhiyay hadalkaas na waa markaad mareexan iyo ogadeen wax ku wada heeshin waydeen
Marka horta daaroodka anigu waxan odhan laha , ha isku ba hadlina , naagihiina na edebta bara

[sadeboi]

Abgaal, Bantu, Dir, Dhulbahante, no matter what we support our President today, no Somali does. In the last twenty two years he is the only independent recognized leader of a Somali state!

[Siciid85]

Perfect_Order what Irir? it just means talaada ummada Soomaaliyeed ee deegaan dhuulka xorta ah ayaaga bay ka go'da without those three tribes wax soconaya maleh.

[CaynabaX]

Who the fuck cares about recognition? It's all about self governance, the last 21 years went pretty good without recognition. The most important thing is I'm not a part of your hyena eating, bantu ruled country. Xamar has as much influence on Hargeisa as it has on Ina Godane occupied regions. None. If recognition arrives one day I'll welcome it, If it won't I'll just continue ruling my country as I did the past 21 years. It's all good.

[KingMJ]

The ball is in your court, because our position is clear, NO SECESSION! Now, how Somaliland will react to that, and what compromises they are willing to make is up to them. There will be no force union, but there needs to be things straightened out. Khatuumo is a recognized Somali state, their mp's are in our government, and so we must come to a fair resolution of who will have sovereignty, Somalia or Somaliland governments. We will ask Somaliland as best as we can to rethink their current course of action, and it is up to them to choose.

SahanGalbeed, you have shown yourself to be one who can see the bigger picture, and know our position among the nations around us. We have Giants like Ethiopia and Kenya, that we nowhere are close to their size and population, even if you were to bring all the Somali people under one umbrella. The biggest threat is that we will be dominated economically and not militarily. This is more evident with how far we lag behind in infrastructure, finance, education, and development. They are all in a rat race to be the ones who benefits the most from the 21st century. Splintering ourselves will only weaken our position, and make us more easily dominated. If we think there is too much interference from neighboring states, wait until the future. That is why a united Somali Republic is an existentialist necessity. Forget who rules where, let us have an emirates type of deal, so long as we can have a strong voice in international matters. If I were to make Xamar's policy towards Hargeisa, it would not be seeking to rule Hargeisa, but to bring about a workable relationship, sharing the same name internationally. Cooperation, consultation, and compromise.

21 years and now you guys are starting to talk to Xamar, can Somaliland afford to wait 21 more years for recognition?

We will react with either you back us to be recognised as an independent country internationally or nothing. Basically either that happens or nothing will change.

At best we can have a good relationship and communication over all non-political matters and thats an attainable goal we should all reach for no more and no less

[SahanGalbeed]

Meeshan dhibaatada jirta waxa weeye , Somaliland INTERNAL debate -kii lagu qancin laha dadka qaarki baan weli dhicin .
Sheeko "internet" iyo fadhi ku dirir waxa kaga sokeeya , Somalida koonfureed oo intey iska aamusaan , wax wada qabsada waxna wada qaybsada .
We do not live on a planet of our own , qasab bay ku noqonaysa Somaliland iney postion-kooda dib uga soo noqdaan marka la arko koonfur Somaliya oo horre u socota .
Laakin maanta iyo shalay waxa qudha e wax iska badaleen waa MAGACA maddaxweynaha . I personally am encouraged by your enthusiam and optimism , laakin wax weli iska ma celin kartaan politically speaking , marka runta la isku sheego .