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Hasan Sheikh Mohamud on Somaliland-Somalia Relations

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The new president of Somalia spoke well about the talks between Somalia & Somaliland. He showed maturity and understanding what is at stake. You can read his interview with VOA or listen to it below. Since February Hasan Sheikh Mohamud has addressed the issue of Somalia & Somaliand's relations 3 times and has said the following:

1. Inside Story on Aljazeera he said: Somaliland and Somalia will need to renegotiate the 1960 union.
2. Campaign Speech for Presidency he said: He will continue the Somaliland and Somalia talks and will not attempt to use military might or diplomatic pressure
to achieve unity.
3. In the below interview with the VOA he said:
a) He will make sure steer clear from anything that can become a roadblock to these talks.
b) He wants unity to come through negotiation.
c) He introduces the possibility that there may not be a union when he says “ Hadiiba aan midowno”. This is a major departure from the script for a politician
from Somalia.
d) He wants unity that is structured that has a solid foundation and does not want the same kind of unity that happened in 1960 where after years of being
united conflict erupted. Basically he doesn’t want unity just for unity’s sake. Underlining his above point of recognizing there may not be a union.

Over all I was very much impressed with his interview.

VOA:
Wadahadaladii lala bilaabay Somaliland ma qorshihii hore ee loo dejiyey ayaad raacaysaa mise hindise iyo istratiji cusub ayaad ku qaabilaysaa?

Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud: Ilaa iyo hadda inta aan ognahay waxa ay tahay wadahadaladaasi waa bilow. Aad iyo aad ayaan u soo dhoweynaynaa. Aad aan raali uga nahay, ugu faraxsanahay. Waxan leenahay labaatan sano, dhowr iyo labaatan sano ka dib in ay hada bilaabatay fursad lagu wada hadlo Maamulkaa Somaliland ka jira halkaa. Waxaan leenahay Dowlada Somaliland anagu in aan la fadhiisano aad iyo aad wada hadalkii bilawday meeshii uu ka bilawday waa laga dhaqaajinayaa. Si fiican ayaa looga dhaqaajinayaa. Xanaf iyo xasaasiyaad iyo wixii carqalad ku noqon karo oo dhan ayaan ka doonaynaa. Aad iyo aad ayey muhiimad noogu tahay oon in dalka midnimadiisa la helo. Lakiin midnimada ma doonayno in ay caadifad iyo emotions iyo lab la kac ku timaado ma doonayno. Xoog in ay ku timaado ma rabno ama xoog milatari ha ahaado ama xoog dhiblomaasiyeed ha ahaado oo beesha caalamka inta loo adeegsado Somaliland lagu khasbo waxna ma doonayno. Midnimo laga wada hadlay oo maxaan ku idhaahdaayeey rukumo ad adag loo dhigay ayaan rabnaa. Anagu hore ayaan u sii soconaa oo waxyaabaha tiirarka ah ee asaasiga ah ee lagu hishiiyo xitaa waxaan rabaa mustaqbalka in lagu daro manjahka waxbarashada si jiilasha cusub ee Soomaalida ahi ay u ogaadaan wixii lagu midoobay iyo in ay muqadisaad in ay yihiin oo in la ilaaliyo ay tahay. Si aanay u dhicin sodon sano afartan sano kale markaan dowlad ahaano hadiiba aan midowno markaan dowlad ahaano ka dib hadana aanan isigu dhicin oonan u kicin. Lakiin aniga dowladaan madaxda ka ahay ee midnimadu waa noo muhiim waana waxay noo tahay wax aan yacni option kale ama dookh kale oon ahayn dalka in la mideeyo ma qabno. Lakiin hadana sidaas wadadaas aan rabnaa in lagu mideeyee ama wadadii shalay lagu midooboo sodon sano markii mid la ahaa ka dib la isku dilay ma doonayno in dib loo qaado.

Source:http://www.voasomali.com/audio/Audio/213138.html
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He will make sure steer clear from anything that can become a roadblock to these talks. He introduces the possibility that there may not be a union when he says “ Hadiiba aan midowno”. This is a major departure from the script for a politician from Somalia.
:stylin: He knows not to say anything that will be negative towards us.

Good to hear :som: :sland: :up:
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This is disaster for Somalia. We can't trust hawiyaa, with task. I nobody has shed more blood pressure then us darood whether fighting colonial Heights powers or creating road map with garowe, principle 1,2 and galgaciyo. Hawiyaa, would be to compromising, and soft, with the disloyal, fools.
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Watching Somali politics is like watching a high-school class trying to arrange an end of year party.
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Hassan sheikh Mahamuud :up:

Mudulood leadership :up:

We look forward in further talks with the President of Somalia a true son of Mogadishu be well Raiis Xassan sh Maxamuud :up:
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YouDontHaveToGo wrote:Watching Somali politics is like watching a high-school class trying to arrange an end of year party.
:lol: LMAO what a perfect description.
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It will be heated discussions as the following parties all have something to say:
1) Somaliland
2) Khatumo State
3) Puntland
4) Somali Government
And some even include Awdal State.
So it will be interesting to see weither the talks will lead to succes or not. In both cases Somaliland will never back down from seperation. They dont want to repeat the same mistake.
Maybe the only party that can loose is Somalia.
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I have been told that the talks will continue and the first meeting again will be in November this year 2012
Somaliland govt welcomed also further talks between Somaliland and Somalia, this man visited Somaliland many times before he became president he even worked there. So talks phase two will be very interesting well done hassah sheikh :up: :D
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What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.
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eliteSomali wrote:What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.

We are talking about how to restore relations as two separate countries side by side that is the future of the horn
The international community will support this dialogue this is big, u heard the president he is even not sure that there will be another union.

Elite Somali as an ogaden u should know what it means to fight for self determination :mindblown:
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eliteSomali wrote:What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.

Kkkkkkkk
Uniting with Somalia is not compulsory, nor is it mentioned in Quran.

Laakiin we need to talk with the Waqooyians to find a solution for all problems.
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khalid ali wrote:
eliteSomali wrote:What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.

We are talking about how to restore relations as two separate countries side by side that is the future of the horn
The international community will support this dialogue this is big, u heard the president he is even not sure that there will be another union.

Elite Somali as an ogaden u should know what it means to fight for self determination :mindblown:
THat's where you're wrong. Somalia is still geographically ONE with no boarders dividing sland and somalia. Just because yall held a party for a couple of years and designed an awful flag that's, at times, used as a carpet and walked one eventho it bears the shahada doesn't mean you're a country. You make it sound as if it's Israel and Palestine talking. :lol: :ufdup: waryaa stop misleading the youngones like abuukar subeer.
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HutuKing01 wrote:
eliteSomali wrote:What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.

Kkkkkkkk
Uniting with Somalia is not compulsory, nor is it mentioned in Quran.

Laakiin we need to talk with the Waqooyians to find a solution for all problems.
Dude talking implies both parties hold power. As far as I am concerned, Mr. Xassan shaikh moxamud is the nigga wth all the power. From Saylac to afmadoow.
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Elite,
True
Officialy Somaliland is regarded to be part of Somalia just like puntland(stealth separatism) laakiin the people in Somaliland do not want to be with us.
Thats why there are talks, to solve problems through dialogue.

If solution lies in recognition then it should be done in wisely manner by calling together all parties living in Somaliland who might be pro-Somalia.


To be honest when speaking in terms of clan, the only clan that might loose if Sland is recognized will be Darood(Majerten, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli) :mindblown:
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eliteSomali wrote:
khalid ali wrote:
eliteSomali wrote:What's there to talk about? The fug! Somalia is one and it's time qaldaans realized that.

We are talking about how to restore relations as two separate countries side by side that is the future of the horn
The international community will support this dialogue this is big, u heard the president he is even not sure that there will be another union.

Elite Somali as an ogaden u should know what it means to fight for self determination :mindblown:
THat's where you're wrong. Somalia is still geographically ONE with no boarders dividing sland and somalia. Just because yall held a party for a couple of years and designed an awful flag that's, at times, used as a carpet and walked one eventho it bears the shahada doesn't mean you're a country. You make it sound as if it's Israel and Palestine talking. :lol: :ufdup: waryaa stop misleading the youngones like abuukar subeer.

What you are forgetting that there was a union the world was our witness the President of Somalia knows that there was a union and that union no longer exist now one can try to restore that union but if u want unity u need both parties if one side refused than there will be no union.

Somalilanders didn't just party they created a country from scratch

They rebuilded its institutions
Its army its police force
Its navy force
They reconstructed airports hospitals governmental buildings Parliament institutions etc i don't need to go in details

Somaliland and Somalia haven't talked for 21 years Palestine and Israel talk every day but they cant agree, Somaliland and Somalia will agree since the land is big enough to be divided Israel palestine is to small but the palestenians and the israelis talk and talk but just cant agree , Somaliland and Somalia havent talked at all for 21 years and now they are talking.

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Talks or no talks our Sovereignty is neither for discussion nor compromise . . . Following the costly reclamation of our independence and in view of Somalilanders’ desires for self-rule, we do hereby ask the world to respect our people’s decision and recognize Somaliland as a free country with full membership at the United Nations by President Siilaanyo
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