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How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accountable?
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:30 pm
by The`Republic
After the updates, it has been confirmed to me today the man is indeed from Beesha Sade. My question is there are a lot of opportunities for us in the upcoming announcements in terms of:
1. Diplomatic cover against Kenya's naked ambitions in Jubbaland
2. A son in the highest executive seat who understands the need
3. Political resurgence after the presidential fall out
Military + Humanitarian + Political = Sade Success
Sade are of course part of the Somali fabric but there is a special moment for us in getting the first permanent chief executive post in post-civil war Somalia. I hope he is one who keeps the interests of his people close while keeping the interests of Somalis close

Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:35 pm
by Murax
I'm not gonna lie. When it was madaxweyne Abdullahi Yusuf or Shariif MR not getting the PM I was like
It didn't matter much then. I didn't care that maslax lost 2nd place to shariif after shariif got 200 extra ikhwaani votes. But now For the first time I will be dissapointed if MR don't get it. We need diplomatic cover to compliment out military muscle in Jubbaland and neutralize the elements that have designs on genociding sade in Kismaayo because they are too cowardly to face them using their clan. My two cents. Hopefully the MR pm if appointed can stand against that, while negotiating a fair, cadaalad settlement for all in Jubbaland.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:39 pm
by SummerRain
I dont see why MR can't secure their interests without getting the PM postion. It have been a while since HG held either a president or PM position and there is no sense that any of their interests are under a threat.

If the PM goes to a MR, he is hired to serve the interest of all Somali people, marka ina adeerkeen ha ceebenina as a clan serving PM, before "he" is even officially announced

Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:55 pm
by The`Republic
Walaasheen Ismahan-
We are not talking about domestic Somali politics when we say serving interest. Beesha Sade faces an existential threat from the Kenyans in southern Somalia. Just couple weeks ago they dared say we are the "Al Shabaab" clan in southern Somalis. This was an alarming signifier to their true ambitions and who they consider the "enemy."
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=312569
We need a man in the highest office of Somalia who is specially tuned in the affairs of this part of the country to give the Kenyans zero wiggle rooms to try to sideline us in order to realize their sinister ambitions toward resources and territorial/boundary issues in Jubbaland.
I think the President is specially keen on this issue (the Kenyans met him day after Election to lobby Abdiwali Gaas for PM, he said no) and is choosing this community as part of that reason.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:13 pm
by SummerRain
Again the president and PM as there to serve the nation's interests and beesha Sade are part of that. I dont see what is the problem, unless you have no confidence in the government.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:21 pm
by The`Republic
I have not had a lot of confidence in the government on this issue especially Cumar Abdirashid and Gaas,; although Sheikh Sharif seemed to be on the same side as us he was not very vocal and didn't seem to care. Although in his press conference this week after the Kenyan accusation he did describe just the kind of friction that occurred between him and Kenya including that they wanted him to rubber stamp Azania, agree to the parallel border re-demarcation on the coast boundary, and oil drilling...all of which he said he refused.
There is an even more special protection against Kenyan ambitions if a Sade man is PM so we of course will welcome it although he is certainly a Somali leader and is holding Somali interests.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:17 am
by Adali
Kenya's singling out of Beesha Sade and maligning Beesha Sade to the extend of falsely accusing the entire tribe of being pro-terrorist Alshabab group was basically a declaration of war, their illegitimate incursion into Somalia just got even more sinister and it must be stopped immediately.
Sade Prime minister should and will be held accountable for two reasons, Sade land must be defended against the Kenyan aggression and Somalia's territorial integrity must be maintained.

Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:27 am
by Adali
Ismahan123 wrote:Again the president and PM as there to serve the nation's interests and beesha Sade are part of that. I dont see what is the problem, unless you have no confidence in the government.
You are talking as if Somalia has a perfect government, you can't possibly be this blissfully ignorant considering what Abdullahi Yusuf(aun) did to your sub-clan Lol.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:37 am
by Eaglehawk
we don`t need shit from the new PM only signature
the late hero melez zanawi gave us the legal foundation for jubaland, when IGAD`s declared its intend to recognize jubaland ( preemptive recognition)
if the new nigga somalinimo iyo waxaan aqoon nola yimado, we should kill him for he wast our time
the legal foundation of jubaland should be our top priority
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:47 am
by Murax
Ismahan123 wrote:I dont see why MR can't secure their interests without getting the PM postion. It have been a while since HG held either a president or PM position and there is no sense that any of their interests are under a threat.

If the PM goes to a MR, he is hired to serve the interest of all Somali people, marka ina adeerkeen ha ceebenina as a clan serving PM, before "he" is even officially announced

Welcome to the section sister. Ofcourse the role of the PM is to be fair and balanced. Infact in a perfect world he should be a little less fair to his own clan to win over everybody else. However the point we are making is that for starters sade are citizens of somalia like anybody else. Another country kenya has come in and publically brandished them terrorists and outlaws. So what we are saying is we absolutely do not want any special privilages or favors from a MR pm that amy other somali doesn't get. Take the ethiopians for example. In '06 as much as people say they were there for shabab were they. Ot also not brought there by some traitor somalis to fight a certain clan? How were some parts of xamar safe and others like south xamar, bakaaro burning? Are you telling
Me there was no difference between gheedi who was clapping and nuur cadde? Thats the point im making. With the MR candidates that are being talked about I don't think they would gibe the green light to a foreign country to attack certain regions and call his clan terrorists on the radio. So don't think we want PM to get special favors. We want it so we can get our basic rights as citizens. We have no agenda here.
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:14 pm
by Murax
^^
I was typing that from my ipad so excuse the many typos

Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:16 pm
by The`Republic
After conciliatoy tone all this time, one day after the clan and its elders reached a decision the PM came in with full diplomatic cover
http://warqaad.com/2013/03/01/dhagayso- ... da-ayaana/
Re: How do we hold our upcoming Sade Prime Minister accounta
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:26 am
by Kismaayo21
Dhabodilifniimo and dowlaaddiid
