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The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:50 pm
by Jaamac1975
1-A question to the southerners, why the members of the SYL are refered to "aabayaashii halganka" as though they have liberated the entire country?
2- second question, when was this SYL was founded and by who?
3- When was the first election and where it took place ?
4- who was who and how the power was shared among the southerners?
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:54 pm
by jalaaludin5
why don't you tell us Sherlock.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:57 pm
by Khalid Ali
I think it was founded in 1943 its first chairman was Yasin Haji Osman Sharmarke he was Majeerteen osman mahamuud.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:59 pm
by DayaxJeclee
Another Anti-south thread
Waa lagu qasaarey haddii aa gadaal god ka qodoysid
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:03 pm
by Somaliman50
1. they were the first real political movement dedicated to remove modern colonialism from somalia.
2. founded by 13 young individuals in 1943. the first chairman and president of syl of c/qaadir shekh sakhaawadeen. (khalid, yasiin haaji was the secretary general, not chairman)
3. first elections in somali history was in 1956. waa dowladii hoose ama daakhiliyada siday dadka qaar ay dhahaan.
4. it was a national movement but the major power brokers at the time was the hawiye, majerteen and the digil&mirifle.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:03 pm
by Jaamac1975
No according to the embassador Maxamed Cusmaan Omar a Bandari
[url]http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2012/ ... malia.aspx
He claimes it was founded by 6 Banadaraies, also according to him Somaliland " all of a sudden in may 6 1960 British just wake up one day and decided to grant independence to somaliland".So the history and myth of the SYL is murky,
The Banaadiris were the first to move ahead in establishing their organisation, known as the Hamar Youth Club (HYC) on 15th April 1943. A month later, Yassin Haji Osman, following in the steps of the Banaadiris, decided to form another club.
According to senior journalist and historian, Dr. Abdulqadir Ali Boolaay, “Yassin discussed his idea with two Banaadiris, Abdulqadir Saqaawddin and Haji Mohamed Hussein, who, not only supported the idea but also joined him in the process of establishing a new club.”
The trio were soon joined by ten other people. On 15th May, 1943, a month after the birth of Hamar Youth Club, the 13 young politicians announced the establishment of the Somali Youth Club (SYC). Four years later, in 1947, SYC changed its name to SYL (Somali Youth League). But the change did not come as smoothly as it sounds. The late Malaaq Mahamed ‘Umarey, one of the Benaadiri elders who was also a member of the central committee of HYC, told me when I was in Mogadishu in 1993: “The application of the SYC to change the name to SYL was rejected by the British Military Administration on the ground that the flag of the SYC was Red in colour which is Communist flag and unless it was changed, the application would not be approved. Even the party was at the risk of being closed down.”
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:07 pm
by jalaaludin5
waxa kugu taagan maad soo deysid before you choke on it.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:10 pm
by Jaamac1975
jalaaludiin ,
aday wax kugu taaganyiin ee aniga iam doing a research , my hobby always was and is to dispell somali churned myth. So far i have tow southern "authors" who conteradict one another one by the name of Xildhibaan a lunatic and the other is the old embassdor. so who is lying?
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:12 pm
by Jaamac1975
khalid ali,
I don't think Sharmaarke was a chairman , thats the myth.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:13 pm
by jalaaludin5
Jaamac1975
My bad. For a second there i thought you were just another troll looking at things from qabil angle.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:15 pm
by Jaamac1975
Abdulqadir Saqaa’uddiin became the first President of the Somali Youth Club (SYC) in 1943 and Haji Mohamed Hussein was elected as the Vice President. Both were Banaadiris. Yassin became the Secretary General of the Club. Saqaa’uddiin passed away in 1947 and Haji Mohamed Hussein became President.
Out of the 13 founding fathers of the Somali Youth Club Six (6) were Banaadiris, and Seven (7) were from other clans.
Thats what the embassdor a historian wrote. where is Sharmaarke? or even Cabdilaahi Ciise?
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:16 pm
by Khalid Ali
Jaamac1975 wrote:khalid ali,
I don't think Sharmaarke was a chairman , thats the myth.
Well he was the first chairman apparently there were two SYL or there was an SYL pre 1943 and the 2 joined
These banadiris members what are the names of these members?
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:18 pm
by DayaxJeclee
Hebel baa Hebel ku yiri 1993, marka haddii uu hebel yiri waxaan isku dayaa in aa rumaysto, muran cusubna waa bilaabooyaa.
Sharafta Dad dhintay oo is difaaci karin, dhooqo aan ku jiidaa.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:20 pm
by jalaaludin5
SareedoXareedo wrote:Hebel baa Hebel ku yiri 1993, marka haddii uu hebel yiri waxaan isku dayaa in aa rumaysto, muran cusubna waa bilaabooyaa.
Sharafta Dad dhintay oo is difaaci karin, dhooqo aan ku jiidaa.
Why aad af soomaali kaliya ugu qortaa?
wale kaa shakiyay.
Re: The SYL , SNL, and other somali parties myth.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:22 pm
by Jaamac1975
The Somalis gather on 1st July of each year to celebrate the independence anniversary and the great struggle of the Somali Youth League. Speaker after speaker speaks of three things: SYL, Hawo Tako and Dhagaxtuur. They mention that the SYL was founded on 15th May 1943 by 13 young men. Most of the people don’t know or ignore the fact that the top leaders of the party were Banaadiris. Abdulqadir Saqawddin was the SYL’s first President from 1943 until he died in 1947. The second President was Haji Mohamed Hussein from 1947. The Banaadiris, who are now labelled as 4.5 were the majority in the 13 SYC/SYL founders. They were six and the others were seven.
Following were the 13 founders of the Somali Youth Club on 15 May 1943:
Banaadiri Members:
1. Abdulqadir Saqawdiin Shaikh Aweys; 2. Haji Mohamed Hussein Haamud; 3. Dheere Haji Dheere; 4.Mohamed Osman Baarba; 5.Hudow Maalin and 6.Mohamed Ali Nur.
Other Members from different regions:
1. Yassin Haji Osman Sharmarke; 2. Mohamed Hersi Nur Sidii; 3.Dahir Haji Osman; 4. Mohamed Abdulle Hersi; 5. Ali Hassan Maslah; 6. Osman Ghedi Rageh; 7. Mohamed Farah Hilowle. (Source: Dr. Abdulqadir Ali Boolaay)