Farmajo: Has he got the support of the civilians & military?

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Farmajo: Has he got the support of the civilians & military?

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Warsame101 wrote:Murax, if you look it at from a different perspective -- Farmaajo's future achievements and performance will actually compliment and credit the President as he brought him in.

Actually, today's aftereffect can be quite beneficial for camp Farmaajo. The debunked rumour that he is the new chosen PM which got the people energised displayed one main point: re-affirmation to President Hassan of the tremendous support that he still enjoys from the people (civilians and military).

Whether that will solidify Hassan's choice to appoint him as the next post-transitional PM -- personally, I wouldn't think so.
Sure he has the support of his Marehan clan both in Somalia and aboard but what about the larger Somali community, does he have support from those from Puntland both aboard and at home in Galkayo, Burtinle, Garowe, Qardho, Bosaso, etc. That is a big fat NO! From among those non-Marehan clans in Jubaland whether Farmaajo can be a neural PM or not is in question and so their undecided, none of them can afford to support this man at this critical juncture. As far as the Hawiye block is concern I'm sure they'll support who ever Hassan Bacoow pick for prime minister but while he remains undecided thier support for Farmaajo based on my observation here on Somalinet is obvious, and I say obvious because naturally their all known to automatically support any candidate which Puntland opposes and visa-verse. As far as the D&M block is concern, the only soul I can think of who has support for him is Shirib, a servant boy of Voltage's (his new dirac I believe is "The Republic").

Who Somaliland and the Khatumites supports I'm not too worried about, it's the military's support that raises alarms for me; a nations military should always remain neutral, this is unacceptable and I'm surprise no Somali have said anything about it.

Getting back to the question I posed, unless were picking sides and not really serious about solving Somalia's long standing conflict I don't think it's appropriate to make bold claims.
Somalidu Farmaajo haa rabto amee yeysan rabin; madaxweyne Xassan Shiikh puntland iskama indha tiri karo waayo waa maamuul 14 sano jirsaday dad iyo deegaana leh, marka waxa fiican inuu heshiisiiyo, farmaajo iyo puntland oo uu dhaho Farmaajo inaan ku magacaabo ban jeclahay somalida kalena jeceshahay, lakin kuwaas keliya raisal wasaare u noqonmaysid ee somali oo dhan bad u noqon including puntland, inaad kalsooni ka hesho puntland waa qasab lagama maarmaan ,heshiis kiinana waa ka qayb qaadan, inaan idin dhex galo, mana umaleeyeen inay intaa qaadan lahayd. tusaale hadii maanta doorashada somalia ay ahaan lahayd one man one vote , farmaajo miyaanu ku qasbanaadeen inuu Puntland tago?? suu cod uga helo, mise wuxu dhihi lahaa tegi maayo oo waa is dagaal sanahay, its same shit, haduu raisalwasaaraha rabo waa inuu maamul goboleedada soo qanciyaa, galmudug tagaa hadaysan rabin, khaatumo tagaa hadaysan rabin, iwm.
Little something I thought I share posed by a poster from another site. Wise words for a nation that always favors "the blind leading the blind" course of direction.
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While the possibility of Mr. cheese becoming the next PM is very slim i dont think the support of puntland is important to the PM. The Job that the PM needs to do is to build state institutions, stabilize xamar and its surrounding and lastly South of Somalia.

I personally think government in xamar should concentrate of building security apparatus that can stabilize Mogadishu and war ravaged region of the South before we even talk about anything else so in the short time Pland should be even on the table what is more since this government is not tng/tfg no body needs pland, all u need is to stabilize xamar and run ur show there.
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Why shun Puntland when you have made it clear the PM's job is to build state institutions? :mindblown:
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Transformer wrote:Why shun Puntland when you have made it clear the PM's job is to build state institutions? :mindblown:
Fiiri walaal, we build state institutions in the seat of the government which happened to be xamar, second as we all know the government needs to clean its house before it moves to other task since puntland has already an admin they can wait we will fix the south 1st.
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Fiiri walaal, if your idea ever materializes this president should be stripped of his title and be given another (Somalia's and the title of our nations capital is all inclusive not exclusive), perhaps South Somalia's president should be the title given to him.

Puntland wasn't appointed by a central government and for you to insist other regions should be, well you haven't learned anything from Somalia's past history. Any institution building should be from ground up approach, not top down. Puntland still stands because of such approach, all this president needs to do is be fair and honest in his dealing, and the rest will follow. Let's shunning Puntland so we can fatten ourselves and build our clans and our allies regions in Somalia's name is never the solution, that's a robbery.
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Transformer , for all your grievances against Farmaajo, one cannot ignore his unyielding support from the broadest spectrum of Somali clans. To trivalise or negate this support by claiming that it only emanates and is limited to Reer Gedo is either naive or you are deliberately down-playing it. I have my reservations about him in regards to taken his anti-qabiil stance to a whole impracticable level but he seem to have matured from his brief tenure as PM.

Farmaajo, if given the chance, can achieve a great deal and perhaps maybe what Somalia needs - provided he does not succumb to a messiah complex.
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Transformers a fool. What has or would Farmaajo ever do for MR if elected?
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Murax wrote:Transformers a fool. What has or would Farmaajo ever do for MR if elected?
Then why are you folks almost crying to get the position?
Farmajo came and saw.
He was naive but in the end realised that IC run the show.
The question is why did he come back? Knowing how much the IC humiliated him?
I guess what transformer wants to say is Farmajo seems to be a govonor of Xamar rather than an all inclusive leader.
He was sorting out a mess that was supposed to be cleaned by reer xamar.
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The_Patriot wrote:
Murax wrote:Transformers a fool. What has or would Farmaajo ever do for MR if elected?
Then why are you folks almost crying to get the position?
Farmajo came and saw.
He was naive but in the end realised that IC run the show.
The question is why did he come back? Knowing how much the IC humiliated him?
I guess what transformer wants to say is Farmajo seems to be a govonor of Xamar rather than an all inclusive leader.
He was sorting out a mess that was supposed to be cleaned by reer xamar.

Truth is Marehan are praying and hoping for any other MR PM other than Farmaajo. That said He's better for Me than one with a mindset the likes of Transformer and His Uncle Faroole.
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This seems to be a nasty tug of war between MJ and MX. Cant they find a OG with a normal IQ level to satisfy the required Darod PM position?
Or are they all too busy holding the toilet paper for their foreign masters?
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Warsame101 wrote:Transformer , for all your grievances against Farmaajo, one cannot ignore his unyielding support from the broadest spectrum of Somali clans. To trivalise or negate this support by claiming that it only emanates and is limited to Reer Gedo is either naive or you are deliberately down-playing it. I have my reservations about him in regards to taken his anti-qabiil stance to a whole impracticable level but he seem to have matured from his brief tenure as PM.

Farmaajo, if given the chance, can achieve a great deal and perhaps maybe what Somalia needs - provided he does not succumb to a messiah complex.
I think your the first Marehan to have admitted to Farmaajo's aggression toward Puntland (much respect to you), what can not be ignored though is the fact that much of the support he enjoys are from those who have an axe to grind with Puntland; he has proven himself to them but I don't think he has to Puntland yet. What he should have done by now was put them in their place by showing them he was wrong to have treated Puntland the way has in the past, to have actually walk the walk rather then crisscrossing the world over nothing in particular which is what he has been doing as of late. I wish he did walk the walk and included Garowe on his list while traveling around the world. Can Puntland afford to just take your word for it and risk it all? No, I don't think that would be a wise decision, specially now more so even then ever since Somalia is at a critical juncture.
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Transformer I would had killed you if I had the chance Laylaaa SSDF :oops: :clap: :)
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skywalker25 wrote:This seems to be a nasty tug of war between MJ and MX. Cant they find a OG with a normal IQ level to satisfy the required Darod PM position?
Or are they all too busy holding the toilet paper for their foreign masters?
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Transformer wrote:
Warsame101 wrote:Transformer , for all your grievances against Farmaajo, one cannot ignore his unyielding support from the broadest spectrum of Somali clans. To trivalise or negate this support by claiming that it only emanates and is limited to Reer Gedo is either naive or you are deliberately down-playing it. I have my reservations about him in regards to taken his anti-qabiil stance to a whole impracticable level but he seem to have matured from his brief tenure as PM.

Farmaajo, if given the chance, can achieve a great deal and perhaps maybe what Somalia needs - provided he does not succumb to a messiah complex.
I think your the first Marehan to have admitted to Farmaajo's aggression toward Puntland (much respect to you)
I have never alluded anything that says Farmaajo reserves special anomisity for Puntland, in fact, I doubt I even mentioned Puntland.

All I said was that he takes his anti-qabiil/qabyaalad stance to a whole new level.
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farmajo :up:
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