Kismaayo - No millitia , No warlords

[gobdoon]

The government should send strong signal and take over the security of the city , new security forces should be recruited consisting of all it's people and security should be the priority , the president , the Primeminster , Jubooyin MPs in the parliement , elders and intelluctuals should sit together discuss the future of the city and select an adminstration representing all the people of the region , It is shame for us as Somalis the BBC and the foreign media is reporting that different clans in the city are jugling that they would rule it by themselves some saying they have been in the bush fighting one year athers saying We were in contrll when Shabab took over , this is not right and it's not any ones intrest that any one particular group should rule by themselves , where are the lessons We learnt fromm 22 years of sufering and distruction.

[jalaaludin5]

There are Militias and warlords more dangerous than al-shabab. AMISOM!

But in respect of the new president



...I will ignore your dabadhilif nature and qabil based nac nac and just pray that the Good Lord guide the new leader and may two decades of lawlessness come to an end. For the sake of the silent majority mainly women and children that seem to always pay the highest prize for others wrong doing.

[The_Patriot]

The day the TFG becomes impartial and says the same to Ahlusuna waljamaca and the militias in Hiraan and recruits competent force in Xamar that is all inclusive then that is the day trust can be created. But abusing presidential powers like C.qassim who could not walk in the streets of Xamar yet contribute 200 vehicles for the creation of JVA was a total failure.
The president has two options he can either behave like a Hawiyeh President or Somalia's president. The choice is his but to try to show incompetency by trying to sideline those that put their lives in the frontline will be a big mistake. After all AS are still lurking in the woods and trying to make AS recover their losses and regain position is totally unacceptable. If the President loves AS then he can invite them in Xamar and relief AMISOM of its duties.

[gobdoon]

Anything else is beter than Alshabab.

[original dervish]

I think a lot of people know that if Jubbaland/Kismayo is made to work, xamar will be finished.
The hawiye wanted xamar, they turned it into a shithole. Now they looking at Kismayo..

[IRONm@N]

its already starting. wherever the government or Amiss-om takes over, there will be hundreds of militia and clan rivalry and simultaneous administrations running side by side

Ururka Raaskambooni oo sheegay in Maamul u sameynta Kismaayo aysan ahayn mid laga sugayo Dowladda Soomaaliya
Khamiis, Oktoobar 04, 2012 (HOL) — Ururka Raaskambooni oo ka mid ah xoogaggii gacanta ku siiyay ciidamada Kenya iyo kuwa Soomaaliya qabsashadii magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobolka Jubbada Jubbada hoose ayaa sheegay in maamul u sameynta magaalada Kismaayo aysan ahayn mid laga sugayo dowladda dhexe ee Soomaaliya.

Afhayeenka ururkan, C/naasir Seeraar oo wareys siinayay BBC-da isagoo ku sugan magaalada Kismaayo ayaa sheegay inay sameynayaan guddi si KMG ah u maamula magaalada inta looga sameynayo maamul guud, isagoo ku gacan-sayray hadal uu ku sheegay madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo ahaa in dowladdu ay Kismaayo u sameyn doonto maamul.

"Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya waxaan jeclaan lahaa inuu akhriyo dastuurka, kuma qorna in madaxweynuhu uu maamul u sameeyo gobollada dalka, sidaa daradeed waxaan ugu baaqi lahaa inuu dastuurka dib ugu laabto," ayuu yiri C/naasir Seeraar.

Afhayeenku ururka Raaskambooni wuxuu hadalkiisa ku daray in marnaba aysan sugayn Kismaayo in maamul looga keeno Xamar, dadka reer Kismaayana ay xaq u leeyihiin inay iyagu sameystaan maamulkii hoggaamin lahaa.

[The_Patriot]

its already starting. wherever the government or Amiss-om takes over, there will be hundreds of militia and clan rivalry and simultaneous administrations running side by side

Ururka Raaskambooni oo sheegay in Maamul u sameynta Kismaayo aysan ahayn mid laga sugayo Dowladda Soomaaliya
Khamiis, Oktoobar 04, 2012 (HOL) — Ururka Raaskambooni oo ka mid ah xoogaggii gacanta ku siiyay ciidamada Kenya iyo kuwa Soomaaliya qabsashadii magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobolka Jubbada Jubbada hoose ayaa sheegay in maamul u sameynta magaalada Kismaayo aysan ahayn mid laga sugayo dowladda dhexe ee Soomaaliya.

Afhayeenka ururkan, C/naasir Seeraar oo wareys siinayay BBC-da isagoo ku sugan magaalada Kismaayo ayaa sheegay inay sameynayaan guddi si KMG ah u maamula magaalada inta looga sameynayo maamul guud, isagoo ku gacan-sayray hadal uu ku sheegay madaxweynaha Soomaaliya oo ahaa in dowladdu ay Kismaayo u sameyn doonto maamul.

"Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya waxaan jeclaan lahaa inuu akhriyo dastuurka, kuma qorna in madaxweynuhu uu maamul u sameeyo gobollada dalka, sidaa daradeed waxaan ugu baaqi lahaa inuu dastuurka dib ugu laabto," ayuu yiri C/naasir Seeraar.

Afhayeenku ururka Raaskambooni wuxuu hadalkiisa ku daray in marnaba aysan sugayn Kismaayo in maamul looga keeno Xamar, dadka reer Kismaayana ay xaq u leeyihiin inay iyagu sameystaan maamulkii hoggaamin lahaa.

There will be no conflct. If ever they would have done it when they were liberating other parts of Jubaland from Dhobley to Jana Cabala. The biggest rift was in Dhobley when Sharif was using bribe money to disintegrate them.But who do you think pays their cost? Do you think the feeble President does? Kismaayo is just as strategic as Xamar. Nor Igad or the International communty try to sabortage something they assisted in planning and executing in the past 2-3 yrs. Its not in their interest to see Kismaayo fall back to Shabab. If the President thinks he can use Museveni to galvanise his power and try to use Hawiye card in Kismayu then he is in for a Shock.
Federal military and Raskambooni all receive their pay checkk from same source the same source that pays the militia and AMISOM forces in Xamar and its this source that will pay the President his 1st salary come end of month.

[original dervish]

What do you think is behind the presidents intervention into the Kismayo situation?

[The_Patriot]

What do you think is behind the presidents intervention into the Kismayo situation?

HG and Sharif henchmen.

[Sagaashan]

The-Patriot, what an unfitting name for a qabiil chauvinist, the president of the union represents the needs and aspirations of the nation as a whole. If your community deserves to hold top posts in that place or any future regional administration then they should come to a Somali sitting and make the case effectively rather than letting paranoia drive you through the tumultuous road of Somali politics. Kismaayo needs a long term solution not a permanent base for the Kenyans. Appointing an administration based on the realities on the ground and widespread consultative meetings with the locals is the right approach, as requested by the president. Remeber, the TFG is over.

[original dervish]

I dont think you will find any disagreement with that proposition.
however, why no such statements about Merca, Brava etc.

Moryaan still control those regions even after being liberated from al shabaab.

[Colonel]

The president of Xamar has shown his true colours, letting hawiye militias do as they wish in some regions whilst trying to curb the darood ones in the south. The man has lost all his legitimacy and the bit of faith we had in him.

Nevertheless he has no influence in the Jubbas therefore his words are meaningless.

[Coldoon]

Daarodkii waa loo tashaday. First, they were tricked to accept the 4.5 System which sidelines Daarod and now they can't administer Jubbaland which is 95% Daarod.

The 4.5 system is against Daarod. If 3 out of the 4 (Dir, Hawiye and D&M) all vote for the same motion, may it be (allowing Somaliland to secede), then Daarod won't have a majority vote, since they only consist of 61 seats.

Although, Daarod is the only clan with the largest territory and perhaps population, they have been sidelined with the 4.5 System.

[Sagaashan]

Daarodkii waa loo tashaday. First, they were tricked to accept the 4.5 System which sidelines Daarod and now they can't administer Jubbaland which is 95% Daarod.

The 4.5 system is against Daarod. If 3 out of the 4 (Dir, Hawiye and D&M) all vote for the same motion, may it be (allowing Somaliland to secede), then Daarod won't have a majority vote, since they only consist of 61 seats.

Although, Daarod is the only clan with the largest territory and perhaps population, they have been sidelined with the 4.5 System.

rare commodity you are, the first darood patriot

[Based]

The-Patriot, what an unfitting name for a qabiil chauvinist

rare commodity you are, the first darood patriot