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In a recent thread, you posed this question: "NOBODY ever go afterlife and come back and tell us...marka HOW anybody can say for sure that exist my nigger ??!!!!!!"

Well, somebody just went there and came back. He went there as an agnostic, and came back as believer in God and Yowmal-Aakhir. Ditoore Eben Alexander, a Harvard-trained neurosurgeon and scientist:
I sympathized deeply with those who wanted to believe that there was a God somewhere out there who loved us unconditionally. In fact, I envied such people the security that those beliefs no doubt provided. But as a scientist, I simply knew better than to believe them myself
In the fall of 2008, however, after seven days in a coma during which the human part of my brain, the neocortex, was inactivated, I experienced something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death.
There is no scientific explanation for the fact that while my body lay in coma, my mind—my conscious, inner self—was alive and well. While the neurons of my cortex were stunned to complete inactivity by the bacteria that had attacked them, my brain-free consciousness journeyed to another, larger dimension of the universe: a dimension I’d never dreamed existed and which the old, pre-coma me would have been more than happy to explain was a simple impossibility.

But that dimension—in rough outline, the same one described by countless subjects of near-death experiences and other mystical states—is there. It exists, and what I saw and learned there has placed me quite literally in a new world: a world where we are much more than our brains and bodies, and where death is not the end of consciousness but rather a chapter in a vast, and incalculably positive, journey.
Toward the beginning of my adventure, I was in a place of clouds. Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the deep blue-black sky. Higher than the clouds—immeasurably higher—flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamerlike lines behind them.

Birds? Angels? These words registered later, when I was writing down my recollections. But neither of these words do justice to the beings themselves, which were quite simply different from anything I have known on this planet. They were more advanced. Higher forms.
Yup, Malaa'ika.
A sound, huge and booming like a glorious chant, came down from above, and I wondered if the winged beings were producing it. Again, thinking about it later, it occurred to me that the joy of these creatures, as they soared along, was such that they had to make this noise—that if the joy didn’t come out of them this way then they would simply not otherwise be able to contain it. The sound was palpable and almost material, like a rain that you can feel on your skin but doesn’t get you wet.
Malaa'ika doing tasbeex, taxmeed and dhikr, as the Quran tells us.
It gets stranger still. For most of my journey, someone else was with me. A woman. She was young, and I remember what she looked like in complete detail. She had high cheekbones and deep-blue eyes. Golden brown tresses framed her lovely face. When first I saw her, we were riding along together on an intricately patterned surface, which after a moment I recognized as the wing of a butterfly. In fact, millions of butterflies were all around us—vast fluttering waves of them, dipping down into the woods and coming back up around us again. It was a river of life and color, moving through the air. The woman’s outfit was simple, like a peasant’s, but its colors—powder blue, indigo, and pastel orange-peach—had the same overwhelming, super-vivid aliveness that everything else had. She looked at me with a look that, if you saw it for five seconds, would make your whole life up to that point worth living, no matter what had happened in it so far. It was not a romantic look. It was not a look of friendship. It was a look that was somehow beyond all these, beyond all the different compartments of love we have down here on earth. It was something higher, holding all those other kinds of love within itself while at the same time being much bigger than all of them.
Xuurul Cayn
Without using any words, she spoke to me. The message went through me like a wind, and I instantly understood that it was true. I knew so in the same way that I knew that the world around us was real—was not some fantasy, passing and insubstantial.

The message had three parts, and if I had to translate them into earthly language, I’d say they ran something like this:

“You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever.”

“You have nothing to fear.”

“There is nothing you can do wrong.”

The message flooded me with a vast and crazy sensation of relief. It was like being handed the rules to a game I’d been playing all my life without ever fully understanding it.

“We will show you many things here,” the woman said, again, without actually using these words but by driving their conceptual essence directly into me. “But eventually, you will go back.”

To this, I had only one question.

Back where?
Laa tathreeba calaykum al-yowm.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... rlife.html
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Beautiful story, I shed a tear. :D
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Sounds close enough. Similar, in a way, to some DMT experiences. I would think the total loss of connection would make up for the difference in detail.

But, leaves one with a peculiar question; the Kafir dies and is accompanied by Xuur al-Cayn?
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Alphanumeric wrote:Sounds close enough. Similar, in a way, to some DMT experiences. I would think the total loss of connection would make up for the difference in detail.

But, leaves one with a peculiar question; the Kafir dies and is accompanied by Xuur al-Cayn?
He didn't really die, maybe it's a good vision from God, in order to guide him to Islam.
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LEFTIST!! i was expecting that he comes back whit somekind of solid evidance like video filim. but someone who went in coma and come back and say yeah i was aakhiro and i saw all!! such story you should be skeptic because that person could be having a just Dream!! A dream is not a real thing!!


we allready have lot of people who claime they seein things while they were in coma. some say they saw jesus. others God. others lIKE HINDUS they saw KRISHNA dancing!! Voodoo people they claime they saw JUU JUU IN the mountians.. and so on...

sxb we need real evidance!! PICTURE. VIDEO FILM. something!!
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leftist. the man your talking about is this man

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firstable He's not Muslim. second hes writter. he publishes book about life after deayth. thirt he claimes to be neurosurgeon!! so i think this man is probably a Conartist who wanna sell more books and make money!! bUY MY BOOK you will see there is a life after death!!! :steviej: Conartist :down:
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If they show you a picture you will say it's photoshopped and fake.
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Oh, and btw, no way would the Doc believe this. Lol.
grandpakhalif wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:Sounds close enough. Similar, in a way, to some DMT experiences. I would think the total loss of connection would make up for the difference in detail.

But, leaves one with a peculiar question; the Kafir dies and is accompanied by Xuur al-Cayn?
He didn't really die, maybe it's a good vision from God, in order to guide him to Islam.
By both legal and scientific definitions, he was dead. And if he did die, what happened to the tearing-a-claw-through-wet-wool experienced a kafir's soul goes through at the moment of death? Seems all too pleasant a death for a kafir.

If his experience is in fact true, and we're using it to promote our belief of the Akhirah, it begets quite a few questions.

Saraxnow wrote:If they show you a picture you will say it's photoshopped and fake.
You're seriously addressing that? :lol:
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Ur right Alpha, who knows if his statements are true or not but they are oddly similiar to Islamic adages of the afterlife.
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Ditoore,

:lol: @bring back video filim. What if he did bring back a "video filim", wouldn't you say: "He has to bring back an actual angel or food from The Heaven so we can taste it ourselves!!!!!!!!" Speaking of food, isn't that what Bani Isreal asked one of the prophets, bring us a table of food from heaven as sign that your God exists?

Just to clear one thing up: For all practical reasons(brain activity), this guy was dead. There was zero brain activity. The meningitis had completely disabled his cortex, not a single neuron was working. So this could not have been and was not a 'coma dream' . Something, call it his soul, or his consciousnesses, traveled to another dimension which he describes in detail. Again, it wasn't medically possible for him to "see anything" because his cortex was shut down completely. The medical team that was treating him confirmed this.

The guy is one of the top neurosurgeons and an expert in the field of neuroscience, no amount of book sales is worth his reputation as a scientist and physician.
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Saraxnow wrote:If they show you a picture you will say it's photoshopped and fake.

do you believe that white guy who claime to be doctor of neurosurgeon and book writter who claime he went life after death and come back and he wants to tell you all things he saw through he Book. buy my book you will know lot of life after death :lol: :lol: No i think you believe that! this man is A conartist who wanna Make money!!!..

if you take picture or video film life after death. first thing we will ask you before you show us pictures is(( How you get there?? and how you come back??
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I'm kinda surprised Leftist would opt for this story as "evidence". Made me scratch my head at first. :|

Perhaps he's abandoned all forms of literalism :lol:
grandpakhalif wrote:Ur right Alpha, who knows if his statements are true or not but they are oddly similiar to Islamic adages of the afterlife.
It's also very similar to DMT trips. Specially the bits on their communication and "intricate patterns", "vivid colours", etc.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
Saraxnow wrote:If they show you a picture you will say it's photoshopped and fake.

do you believe that white guy who claime to be doctor of neurosurgeon and book writter who claime he went life after death and come back and he wants to tell you all things he saw through he Book. buy my book you will know lot of life after death :lol: :lol: No i think you believe that! this man is A conartist who wanna Make money!!!..

if you take picture or video film life after death. first thing we will ask you before you show us pictures is(( How you get there?? and how you come back??
:lol: :lol:

In all honesty,this story sounds like one of those late informacials for certain "churches" Who claim they saw Jesus.
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damn , i'm making a dua to see the akhir in a ru'ya
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